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Re: Moving Back to the UK - Practical Tips and Lessons Learned
Thanks for all of the tips Sally :)
I have a question about HSBC too...... I already have an account in the UK: I opened it years ago before I moved here in order to make it easier to access my money, but just never got around to using it. Although I still receive statements it has zero balance. DH has accounts with HSBC here. In order to transfer money from one account to the other and not incur charges, do the accounts have to be in the same name? Or doesn't it matter? I guess I could always open one here, but it would be easier not to have to bother! Thanks folks. :angel: |
Re: Moving Back to the UK - Practical Tips and Lessons Learned
I think they'd have to be in the same name.
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Re: Moving Back to the UK - Practical Tips and Lessons Learned
re. the internet, I'd definitely recommend having a look at o2. We've been with them for a couple of years now, no problems, customer service excellent. We have out broadband, line rental and land line calls with them and get free anytime calls to other land lines bundled in. It was quite a cheap deal when I signed up, not sure how it is now but well worth a look.
I can't stand BT because I had an absolutely awful customer service experience with them 2 years ago. Reduced me to tears on more than one occasion... a company like that doesn't deserve my money!! |
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Sallysimmons did you open an account through their "international banking" department? It seems the people who work at HSBC in Los Angeles have no clue what I'm talking about re: British accounts and it's all getting very confusing and annoying!!
Any advice would be greatly appreciated! :) By the way congrats on being back home. How does it feel?!?! |
Re: Moving Back to the UK - Practical Tips and Lessons Learned
We first opened a US account and then when that was up and running, we called the international banking number and asked about help in setting up a UK account. They were very good. It took a few weeks because there are security checks on the UK end, but they kept us informed.
I wouldn't bother talking to branch people - just get in touch by phone with the international team. It is such a benefit to arrive with working debit and credit cards. As far as being back, I'm only in my second week but I love it. Everything about it. It's been stressful and busy but I'm home and I feel like I'm really living for the first time in years. Everyone has been super-friendly (being biased, I'd say they always are in Yorkshire) and it's so nice to do things like buy a car or deal with estate agents without getting the American 'sell job.' I'm very lucky to be in a beautiful part of the country and I'm making the most of it. Eating too much cake and chocolate though - must stop the daily custard tart habit!! |
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There's nothing wrong with a daily custard tart!!!!! :)
Glad to hear you're enjoying being back. I was back the other week for a few days taking meetings with agents and I really enjoyed being around British people again (does that sound silly?!?!) I set up a US account last week so I'll definitely speak to the international banking people soon. Just waiting to hear about a job offer for the hubby. Fingers crossed. The sooner he can land a job the sooner we can leave this mental town! :) All the best. |
Re: Moving Back to the UK - Practical Tips and Lessons Learned
Hi Sally
Have you had a Yorkshire Curd Cheese Tart yet? Yum Yum. One of my favourites ... My gran used to make the best ever. On countdown for return now ... Leaving May 16th; animals will arrive a day after me as they are overnighting in Toronto. Friend is picking us all up at Heathrow and taking us home ... definitely fish and chips for supper that night. Glad it is all going so well. |
Re: Moving Back to the UK - Practical Tips and Lessons Learned
Originally Posted by dunroving
(Post 9977653)
Regarding internet, can I ask what you went with? I'm with BT (their top package) and find iPlayer, YouTube, etc., often freeze. I think it's because even though I live only about 8 miles from a big city, the area is quite rural and services are pretty rubbish (they had only dial-up for the longest time, Freeview reception is rubbish, as is DAB radio reception).
We don't have cable so cable internet isn't an option, and a USB dongle I tried sucked big-time. Luckily, Freesat is great but I'd love to find a quicker internet option as I'm on the net (for work mainly) a lot. At about £40 a month, it seems like daylight robbery. |
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We called to ask questions but we did open the account online (they told us to). But at various stages we called for help - for example, to apply for UK credit cards.
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Re: Moving Back to the UK - Practical Tips and Lessons Learned
Originally Posted by sallysimmons
(Post 10036734)
We called to ask questions but we did open the account online (they told us to). But at various stages we called for help - for example, to apply for UK credit cards.
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Re: Moving Back to the UK - Practical Tips and Lessons Learned
Originally Posted by sallysimmons
(Post 9977458)
We’re just over 2 weeks away from moving back to the UK and as we’ve worked through the process of moving back, we’ve learned some tips and lessons. I had some many questions when we started out, so I thought I’d share my tips with anyone who needs them.
Banking Having read nightmare stories of people unable to open bank accounts or get credit cards in the UK, we moved our banking to HSBC a few months ago. Once our US accounts were open, we were able to open a UK account in advance and we now have debit cards and UK credit cards all ready to go when we get back. The advantage of doing it this way is that the US office can share your US credit history with the UK and therefore you can get credit cards without any hassle. It’s been a bit of a headache administratively just because there are so many steps to go through (open US account and online banking, then open UK account, then ask for debit and credit cards etc) but all the way through, HSBC have been very helpful. Also, if you have over a certain amount of money (different in each country) you can open a premier account – this gives you additional services and more personal attention. But even with a basic account, you can get all set up in the UK before you arrive. Finding a rental property We can’t stay with family and friends because we have cats who don’t mix well, so we needed to find a rental from over here. We are also self-employed and don’t have any UK credit history, so we thought we might have problems. To make it easier we hired a home-finding company recommended by another BE user. It’s not cheap but it turned out to be worth its weight in gold. Rentals are so competitive right now that we needed her speed. She spotted the house we rented before anyone else, and that allowed us to secure it. The lack of credit wasn’t a problem. I offered to provide a copy of our US credit report and they were happy with that. (We can order those for free over here once a year). The homefinder we used is County Home Search and it costs £750 upfront and then one month's rent if they find you a place. They do a LOT of running around for that money and send detailed reports, photos and videos of each house they visit. National Insurance We wanted to have these numbers in case they were needed for anything but had no idea what they were. There’s a number for ex-pats to call, which is 44 191 225 4811. Just be warned that even when they say they’ll send you your number, it seems to be hit and miss whether a letter actually goes out. I had to call 3 times and my husband had to call twice. We eventually both got the numbers but it took 3 months from start to finish. Utilities I have no idea about other providers, but we’re going with Utilities Warehouse. You can order gas, electric, landline, mobile phones and Internet all from them and then you just get one bill. They’ve been very helpful. If you order 4 or more services, you get a 10% discount on your energy bills, which already seem quite reasonable. Internet If having decent Internet speeds is important to you, you need to check the areas you plan to move to. We had to change our plans quite drastically after finding out that the place we wanted on the banks of lake got download speeds of only 1MB. Not even enough to watch a Youtube clip without it freezing up. Don’t pay any attention to the speeds advertised by the companies except when looking at cable services (Virgin fiber optic and BT Infinity). When a company sells a package for ‘speeds up to …’ the real speeds are never what they promise and depend on how far the house is from the telephone exchange. Use this website to check actual speeds for any postcode. http://www.uswitch.com --------------------------- That's it so far. We're moving cats but I don't know what I've learned about that yet. I'll have to update when it's all done. Don't know if this was helpful, but if anyone has any questions, let me know. I'm also considering opening up an account with HSBC before I move back to UK. HSBC also offers a Passport account for a small fee. I'm not sure which is better....open up a basic account or pay extra for the HSBC passport account? |
Re: Moving Back to the UK - Practical Tips and Lessons Learned
Originally Posted by sallysimmons
(Post 9978511)
I'm afraid my experience won't be much help in your situation. Once we found out about the Internet speeds, we narrowed our property search down to only locations with cable Internet. We download a lot of big files for our work and because we both work online all day, we absolutely have to have fast speeds.
It broke my heart to say goodbye to the idea of living in my dream areas, but I consoled myself with the fact that it may be better there one day in the future. In the meantime, we checked every house we saw on Uswitch and only considered them if they had cable. We wound up with a house that get Virgin's 100MB service. I would advise anyone who used the Internet for work, or who has family members who like to download music, movies, games etc. to check out every area and only move somewhere with good speeds. Once you're in a bad area, there's nothing you can do unless you're rich enough to pay for your own dedicated T1 line. (Also, don't think being in a big city means fast speeds - some areas of the big cities have shockingly low speeds and we're going to be living in a rural area but have super fast speeds. You have to check every postcode to see what the situation is in that specific area and then ask the landlord/current owner to make sure that house is wired for the cable service.) It would never have occurred to us to do that, and with multiple teens and a techno-geek DH we need fast internet! :eek: It was a huge source of frustration when we were over briefly in March and it kept crashing on us! DS is going to need a good service as he'll be connecting to a US school online to finish out 12th grade and this has been one of our biggest concerns! |
Re: Moving Back to the UK - Practical Tips and Lessons Learned
Originally Posted by sallysimmons
(Post 10009992)
If you have HSBC accounts in two countries, you can transfer money from one to the other with no charges, so no need to use any other company. We're moving over money from our house sale in the next few days so I'll let you know if we run into any problems, but we've already transferred a few thousand pounds with no problem. There's a web-based interface that lets you make instantaneous transfers.
Instead we have consolidated everything with Wells Fargo as being the only bank round here that actually acknowedges there is somewhere called the UK, and that wire transfers can be done between countries (I hope!), though not apparently to/from our account with the credit union across the street! :blink: |
Re: Moving Back to the UK - Practical Tips and Lessons Learned
Originally Posted by SadInStates
(Post 10082746)
Wow, thank you for that Sally.
It would never have occurred to us to do that, and with multiple teens and a techno-geek DH we need fast internet! :eek: It was a huge source of frustration when we were over briefly in March and it kept crashing on us! DS is going to need a good service as he'll be connecting to a US school online to finish out 12th grade and this has been one of our biggest concerns! BT Infinity is now rolling out across the country too, but their speeds are not always as reliable because they only run fibre to the cabinet in many areas, instead of fibre right to each home. |
Re: Moving Back to the UK - Practical Tips and Lessons Learned
Originally Posted by sallysimmons
(Post 9977458)
We’re just over 2 weeks away from moving back to the UK and as we’ve worked through the process of moving back, we’ve learned some tips and lessons. I had some many questions when we started out, so I thought I’d share my tips with anyone who needs them.
Banking Having read nightmare stories of people unable to open bank accounts or get credit cards in the UK, we moved our banking to HSBC a few months ago. Once our US accounts were open, we were able to open a UK account in advance and we now have debit cards and UK credit cards all ready to go when we get back. The advantage of doing it this way is that the US office can share your US credit history with the UK and therefore you can get credit cards without any hassle. It’s been a bit of a headache administratively just because there are so many steps to go through (open US account and online banking, then open UK account, then ask for debit and credit cards etc) but all the way through, HSBC have been very helpful. Also, if you have over a certain amount of money (different in each country) you can open a premier account – this gives you additional services and more personal attention. But even with a basic account, you can get all set up in the UK before you arrive. Finding a rental property We can’t stay with family and friends because we have cats who don’t mix well, so we needed to find a rental from over here. We are also self-employed and don’t have any UK credit history, so we thought we might have problems. To make it easier we hired a home-finding company recommended by another BE user. It’s not cheap but it turned out to be worth its weight in gold. Rentals are so competitive right now that we needed her speed. She spotted the house we rented before anyone else, and that allowed us to secure it. The lack of credit wasn’t a problem. I offered to provide a copy of our US credit report and they were happy with that. (We can order those for free over here once a year). The homefinder we used is County Home Search and it costs £750 upfront and then one month's rent if they find you a place. They do a LOT of running around for that money and send detailed reports, photos and videos of each house they visit. National Insurance We wanted to have these numbers in case they were needed for anything but had no idea what they were. There’s a number for ex-pats to call, which is 44 191 225 4811. Just be warned that even when they say they’ll send you your number, it seems to be hit and miss whether a letter actually goes out. I had to call 3 times and my husband had to call twice. We eventually both got the numbers but it took 3 months from start to finish. Utilities I have no idea about other providers, but we’re going with Utilities Warehouse. You can order gas, electric, landline, mobile phones and Internet all from them and then you just get one bill. They’ve been very helpful. If you order 4 or more services, you get a 10% discount on your energy bills, which already seem quite reasonable. Internet If having decent Internet speeds is important to you, you need to check the areas you plan to move to. We had to change our plans quite drastically after finding out that the place we wanted on the banks of lake got download speeds of only 1MB. Not even enough to watch a Youtube clip without it freezing up. Don’t pay any attention to the speeds advertised by the companies except when looking at cable services (Virgin fiber optic and BT Infinity). When a company sells a package for ‘speeds up to …’ the real speeds are never what they promise and depend on how far the house is from the telephone exchange. Use this website to check actual speeds for any postcode. http://www.uswitch.com --------------------------- That's it so far. We're moving cats but I don't know what I've learned about that yet. I'll have to update when it's all done. Don't know if this was helpful, but if anyone has any questions, let me know. I truly appreciate you giving such sage advice as to where to get started. |
Re: Moving Back to the UK - Practical Tips and Lessons Learned
Originally Posted by Celticspirit
(Post 10107061)
Sally.....banking was easy, but because I have been married twice and changed my name between ( back to maiden name ) Nationsl Insurance has been a litte trickier. They were able to tell me I existed but required that I download a form to fill in and mail to them. I also sent them a certified copy of my birth certificate which thank goodness I decided to get when on my trip to Moscow and Belfast in April.
I truly appreciate you giving such sage advice as to where to get started. I'm having a similar problem as you with my driving license. I got married and left the country in the same weekend, so in the UK I was never known by my married name. And I lost my old green license, so I am applying for a new one. I've had to send them birth cert, marriage, cert, passport and a signed statement by someone who has known me a long time. I'm hoping this is enough! |
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Apologies if this has been discussed elsewhere, but how do folks, returning to the UK, get on with motor vehicle insurance?
The information I have is that after a couple of years or so, my UK 'no claims discount' becomes invalid (if you've been resident abroad) and foreign evidence of 'no claims' isn't necessarily accepted Could become an expensive return...?:( |
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We had no trouble finding an insurance company to accept our 'no claims' from the US. They need a letter from your US insurer and they told us we could have a credit for up to 10 years of no claims. We're paying £300 a year. No idea if that's expensive for the UK, but it's much cheaper than our costs in New York. (There were a couple of slightly cheaper options too, but my husband chose this one because he'd heard of the company).
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Originally Posted by sallysimmons
(Post 10107202)
Yes, I had to fill out the form too as did my husband. I think that's just par for the course. Just FYI, I found I had to call 3 times before I actually got the letter they said they had posted, so if you don't have it in a week or two, call again. Eventually it will come!
I'm having a similar problem as you with my driving license. I got married and left the country in the same weekend, so in the UK I was never known by my married name. And I lost my old green license, so I am applying for a new one. I've had to send them birth cert, marriage, cert, passport and a signed statement by someone who has known me a long time. I'm hoping this is enough! |
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I don't think so. They clearly have a record of my license on file based on my conversations with them - they just need to make sure that I am who I say I am, hence all the documentation. Fingers crossed anyway!
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Re: Moving Back to the UK - Practical Tips and Lessons Learned
Originally Posted by sallysimmons
(Post 10107726)
I don't think so. They clearly have a record of my license on file based on my conversations with them - they just need to make sure that I am who I say I am, hence all the documentation. Fingers crossed anyway!
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Yes, we got an automatic - I have no interest in messing about with a manual!
Driving has been a piece of cake and honestly I was really nervous about it. but as soon as I started driving, it all came back - the other side of the road, roundabouts, road signs - all of it! The only thing I keep doing is getting in the wrong side of the car. I always feel like such an idiot :lol: |
Re: Moving Back to the UK - Practical Tips and Lessons Learned
Originally Posted by sallysimmons
(Post 10108629)
Yes, we got an automatic - I have no interest in messing about with a manual!
Driving has been a piece of cake and honestly I was really nervous about it. but as soon as I started driving, it all came back - the other side of the road, roundabouts, road signs - all of it! The only thing I keep doing is getting in the wrong side of the car. I always feel like such an idiot :lol: |
Re: Moving Back to the UK - Practical Tips and Lessons Learned
Originally Posted by Arctic Fox
(Post 10107354)
Apologies if this has been discussed elsewhere, but how do folks, returning to the UK, get on with motor vehicle insurance?
The information I have is that after a couple of years or so, my UK 'no claims discount' becomes invalid (if you've been resident abroad) and foreign evidence of 'no claims' isn't necessarily accepted Could become an expensive return...?:( |
Re: Moving Back to the UK - Practical Tips and Lessons Learned
Originally Posted by Deb568
(Post 10109658)
You need to bring a letter from your current insurers, stating your years insured and no claims discount bonuses, preferably a separate letter for each driver.
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Re: Moving Back to the UK - Practical Tips and Lessons Learned
What a great thread! Bookmarking it for future :)
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Originally Posted by Celticspirit
(Post 10108663)
That's funny!! After almost 40 years in the US, I still sometimes go to the passenger side ;-)
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Originally Posted by windsong
(Post 10582280)
What a great thread! Bookmarking it for future :)
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Re: Moving Back to the UK - Practical Tips and Lessons Learned
Originally Posted by DudleysPa
(Post 10613809)
Been there, done that, usually at gas stations. For a while, I often found myself sat down in the car, all by myself, but without a steering wheel in front of me. I then discovered the art of making an exaggerated show of rummaging around in the glove compartment.
I've done that a lot in UK when we've visited, and yes you feel like a complete tit when you get into the passenger seat :rofl: |
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Another bookmarking the thread here...
Thanks for the great advice Sally. :) |
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Originally Posted by ElizabethK
(Post 10613842)
I've done that a lot in UK when we've visited, and yes you feel like a complete tit when you get into the passenger seat :rofl:
That's something else to look forward to when we move back - driving in the UK. Haven't done that since about 1995. :blink: |
Re: Moving Back to the UK - Practical Tips and Lessons Learned
Originally Posted by KittyB52
(Post 10616138)
:lol: I do that as well. Only when we're back in the UK, the husband does all the driving, so if I go to the 'wrong' side, I can loudly exclaim 'TWO steering wheels? A little pretentious, don't you think?" before sheepishly sidling back round to the other side. :o
That's something else to look forward to when we move back - driving in the UK. Haven't done that since about 1995. :blink: |
Re: Moving Back to the UK - Practical Tips and Lessons Learned
Originally Posted by sallysimmons
(Post 9977458)
We’re just over 2 weeks away from moving back to the UK and as we’ve worked through the process of moving back, we’ve learned some tips and lessons. I had some many questions when we started out, so I thought I’d share my tips with anyone who needs them.
Banking Having read nightmare stories of people unable to open bank accounts or get credit cards in the UK, we moved our banking to HSBC a few months ago. Once our US accounts were open, we were able to open a UK account in advance and we now have debit cards and UK credit cards all ready to go when we get back. The advantage of doing it this way is that the US office can share your US credit history with the UK and therefore you can get credit cards without any hassle. It’s been a bit of a headache administratively just because there are so many steps to go through (open US account and online banking, then open UK account, then ask for debit and credit cards etc) but all the way through, HSBC have been very helpful. Also, if you have over a certain amount of money (different in each country) you can open a premier account – this gives you additional services and more personal attention. But even with a basic account, you can get all set up in the UK before you arrive. Finding a rental property We can’t stay with family and friends because we have cats who don’t mix well, so we needed to find a rental from over here. We are also self-employed and don’t have any UK credit history, so we thought we might have problems. To make it easier we hired a home-finding company recommended by another BE user. It’s not cheap but it turned out to be worth its weight in gold. Rentals are so competitive right now that we needed her speed. She spotted the house we rented before anyone else, and that allowed us to secure it. The lack of credit wasn’t a problem. I offered to provide a copy of our US credit report and they were happy with that. (We can order those for free over here once a year). The homefinder we used is County Home Search and it costs £750 upfront and then one month's rent if they find you a place. They do a LOT of running around for that money and send detailed reports, photos and videos of each house they visit. National Insurance We wanted to have these numbers in case they were needed for anything but had no idea what they were. There’s a number for ex-pats to call, which is 44 191 225 4811. Just be warned that even when they say they’ll send you your number, it seems to be hit and miss whether a letter actually goes out. I had to call 3 times and my husband had to call twice. We eventually both got the numbers but it took 3 months from start to finish. Utilities I have no idea about other providers, but we’re going with Utilities Warehouse. You can order gas, electric, landline, mobile phones and Internet all from them and then you just get one bill. They’ve been very helpful. If you order 4 or more services, you get a 10% discount on your energy bills, which already seem quite reasonable. Internet If having decent Internet speeds is important to you, you need to check the areas you plan to move to. We had to change our plans quite drastically after finding out that the place we wanted on the banks of lake got download speeds of only 1MB. Not even enough to watch a Youtube clip without it freezing up. Don’t pay any attention to the speeds advertised by the companies except when looking at cable services (Virgin fiber optic and BT Infinity). When a company sells a package for ‘speeds up to …’ the real speeds are never what they promise and depend on how far the house is from the telephone exchange. Use this website to check actual speeds for any postcode. http://www.uswitch.com --------------------------- That's it so far. We're moving cats but I don't know what I've learned about that yet. I'll have to update when it's all done. Don't know if this was helpful, but if anyone has any questions, let me know. I figure you would be back in england now? even more so, back in my home town! please, tell me... how is it!? me and my partner are planning to come back in august but we have no idea where to start. it seems so much harder then coming to canada - crazy eh! in regards to the banking, do you have to set up a bank prior to returning back to the UK? i know my partners old bank will not look at him twice - left 21p in 2 years ago and it now has amounted up to over 3000 pounds according to his father who has had a recent letter! very worrying indeed. we have 2 cats to bring back too, how did this go? we are in the process of trying to get the rabies shots etc... was there any problems and also, who did you fly with? can you recommend a company who take pets on as cargo - unfortunatly i see england dont accept any pets who is on cabin! anyway, good luck with the future :) PS i only just noticed the ''fingerrolss...'' and i was like OH i read pretty much her whole blog the other night for hours! - your blog made my descion to go back to the uk so much more lightening and possible, i want to say thank you! great job :) im thinking of doing something similar but im not a writer, nor good at english but i like the idea of recording things! your blog has been such an inspiration :) |
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