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uk_sweetie Feb 25th 2014 9:17 am

moving back to uk document help
 
Hello there.
I need some help. I am a brit living in the usa. Planning on moving back to the uk. I have 2 american born boys. One 6 years and one 12 weeks old. Is a uk passport enough proof that they are british citizens or do I have to apply for birth certificates? My husband will be joining us on a spouse visa at a later time.

Thanks
Rachel

BritInParis Feb 25th 2014 9:20 am

Re: moving back to uk document help
 
British passports will suffice by themselves as evidence of British citizenship although you should consider registering their births in order to future-proof their evidence of British citizenship.

uk_sweetie Feb 25th 2014 11:26 pm

Re: moving back to uk document help
 
Ok. Thank you for your help.

ncoomber Feb 25th 2014 11:44 pm

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Hi uksweetie,
Like you I am planning on moving back to the uk this summer with US wife and three US born kids. I got Brit passports for the kids late last year. No problems. Very quick. And from what I understand that is all we need for the kids. Wifes spouse visa is a whole other issue. If you are not familiar with the process and costs I suggest you get familiar as the requirements can be difficult (see wiki above).
Good luck
Cheers
Nigel

Pulaski Feb 26th 2014 3:38 am

Re: moving back to uk document help
 

Originally Posted by uk_sweetie (Post 11148326)
Hello there.
I need some help. I am a brit living in the usa. Planning on moving back to the uk. I have 2 american born boys. One 6 years and one 12 weeks old. Is a uk passport enough proof that they are british citizens or do I have to apply for birth certificates? My husband will be joining us on a spouse visa at a later time. ....

As US citizens, your boys are required by US law to use US passports to travel to and from the USA.

uk_sweetie Feb 26th 2014 9:38 am

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After reading more about the spouse visa i am getting very confused. Can i go over with the kids and get a job that pays min 18.600 and then after 6 months apply for my US husband to come over on a spouse visa? Can someone explain in simple terms to me? This is driving me nuts this whole process, it was easier to become a resident to the usa!!

BritInParis Feb 26th 2014 10:35 am

Re: moving back to uk document help
 

Originally Posted by uk_sweetie (Post 11150039)
After reading more about the spouse visa i am getting very confused. Can i go over with the kids and get a job that pays min 18.600 and then after 6 months apply for my US husband to come over on a spouse visa? Can someone explain in simple terms to me? This is driving me nuts this whole process, it was easier to become a resident to the usa!!

In a nutshell, yes. If you have been earning that much or more in the US for the last six months AND have a job offer in the UK which pays the same then your husband can come with you when you move. Otherwise you will have to go on ahead.

uk_sweetie Feb 26th 2014 12:58 pm

Re: moving back to uk document help
 
So as long as I go ahead first and get a job earn money etc.. then he can come at a later date. Which was the plan anyway. My mum is sorting out a house and car for us.. things can still work out. I hope!

nun Feb 27th 2014 4:58 am

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The way UK Immigration rules split up the families of UK citizens married to non-EU spouses is barbaric. I just don't understand why there are any restrictions on a UK citizen living in the UK with their immediate family.

BritInParis Feb 27th 2014 10:56 am

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Originally Posted by nun (Post 11151149)
The way UK Immigration rules split up the families of UK citizens married to non-EU spouses is barbaric. I just don't understand why there are any restrictions on a UK citizen living in the UK with their immediate family.

Because David Cameron has promised to bring net migration down to below 100,000 per annum by the next election and currently it has risen above 200,000. Not being able to control EEA immigration the Tories are cracking down any and all non-EEA immigration they can.

brissybee Feb 27th 2014 11:04 am

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Originally Posted by BritInParis (Post 11148329)
British passports will suffice by themselves as evidence of British citizenship although you should consider registering their births in order to future-proof their evidence of British citizenship.

Wow... that's something I had never even considered. Can you register a child (born overseas) in the UK? I'm interested but would appreciate clarification... what would you be registering for/as, if the child was already registered as born overseas (in my case, in Australia)?

Could this be done when the "child" was any age?

BritInParis Feb 27th 2014 11:12 am

Re: moving back to uk document help
 

Originally Posted by brissybee (Post 11151595)
Wow... that's something I had never even considered. Can you register a child (born overseas) in the UK? I'm interested but would appreciate clarification... what would you be registering for/as, if the child was already registered as born overseas (in my case, in Australia)?

Could this be done when the "child" was any age?

Registering the birth of a British citizen overseas is not mandatory to receive British citizenship (like Australia) or to access a British passport (like the US, Canada, New Zealand, etc..) but it does give you a British-style birth certificate which states each parent's claim to British citizenship as well as the child's. New copies of the certificate can be ordered at any time from the GRO for a nominal fee which may be handy for your grandchildren in 50 years time. There's no time limit on when a birth can be registered.

However you cannot register a birth in any of the 'old Commonwealth' countries like Australia, Canada, New Zealand or South Africa as they are considered to operate a birth registration system too similar to the UK. Any birth certificate issued in those countries should be accepted in the UK for the same purposes as a British birth certificate.


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