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CanadianSpruce Aug 14th 2017 1:02 am

Re: Moving back to the uk on an Australian passport
 

Originally Posted by bats (Post 12316043)
Yeah, last time I entered the uk on my Canadian passport it was pretty nasty they insisted I needed a British passport, denied that you didn't need a passport etc, etc. I wouldn't try it again

Whatever entry clearance officer you spoke to was spouting BS (not that it surprises me). Especially if your not moving to the UK and just visiting, there's no requirement to do so.

He/she also kind of caught himself there as well, if he reasonably thought you were a British citizen, he should have ceased any questioning as your not subject to immigration control. He/she can't have it both ways.

bats Aug 14th 2017 1:11 am

Re: Moving back to the uk on an Australian passport
 

Originally Posted by CanadianSpruce (Post 12316044)
Whatever entry clearance officer you spoke to was spouting BS (not that it surprises me). Especially if your not moving to the UK and just visiting, there's no requirement to do so.

He/she also kind of caught himself there as well, if he reasonably thought you were a British citizen, he should have ceased any questioning as your not subject to immigration control. He/she can't have it both ways.

i know it was BS, I even had my expired British passport with me, my birth certificate and an appointment to renew the passport. There were two of them hectoring me, it was nasty. I'd avoid any chance of this happening.

SanDiegogirl Aug 14th 2017 1:19 am

Re: Moving back to the uk on an Australian passport
 

Originally Posted by bats (Post 12316043)
Yeah, last time I entered the uk on my Canadian passport it was pretty nasty they insisted I needed a British passport, denied that you didn't need a passport etc, etc. I wouldn't try it again

The last time I entered the UK I used my US passport.

Of course as soon as I answered her question she said "Are you British?; "Yes" I said. "We would prefer you to enter the UK using your British passport" , she said; "OK", said I and was on my way. No unpleasantness at all.

Why they are getting somewhat pedantic about using a British passport if one is just visiting (which I was), I don't know. If you are entering the UK and not intending to leave I could understand the need for a (preferably) current British passport.

Maybe they are following the US - who insist on you using your US passport to enter and leave the country at all times.

CanadianSpruce Aug 14th 2017 1:35 am

Re: Moving back to the uk on an Australian passport
 

Originally Posted by bats (Post 12316047)
i know it was BS, I even had my expired British passport with me, my birth certificate and an appointment to renew the passport. There were two of them hectoring me, it was nasty. I'd avoid any chance of this happening.

Out of interest, did you give them your old British passport and BC all together with your Canadian passport or until they asked?

CanadianSpruce Aug 14th 2017 1:37 am

Re: Moving back to the uk on an Australian passport
 

Originally Posted by SanDiegogirl (Post 12316051)
The last time I entered the UK I used my US passport.

Of course as soon as I answered her question she said "Are you British?; "Yes" I said. "We would prefer you to enter the UK using your British passport" , she said; "OK", said I and was on my way. No unpleasantness at all.

Why they are getting somewhat pedantic about using a British passport if one is just visiting (which I was), I don't know. If you are entering the UK and not intending to leave I could understand the need for a (preferably) current British passport.

Maybe they are following the US - who insist on you using your US passport to enter and leave the country at all times.

Especially for some Expats who literally visit the UK once every 10 years, its pretty much pointless (and a waste of money) having a British passport.

Pollyana Aug 14th 2017 6:36 am

Re: Moving back to the uk on an Australian passport
 

Originally Posted by SanDiegogirl (Post 12316051)
The last time I entered the UK I used my US passport.

Of course as soon as I answered her question she said "Are you British?; "Yes" I said. "We would prefer you to enter the UK using your British passport" , she said; "OK", said I and was on my way. No unpleasantness at all.

Why they are getting somewhat pedantic about using a British passport if one is just visiting (which I was), I don't know. If you are entering the UK and not intending to leave I could understand the need for a (preferably) current British passport.

Maybe they are following the US - who insist on you using your US passport to enter and leave the country at all times.

They prefer it cos it makes it easier for them - no need to keep a record of an 'alien' entering etc, you enter as a Brit and they don't need systems keeping tabs on whether you work, leave on time etc.

However there is no rule in place that says you MUST enter/leve n a UK passport if you hold one The choice is still yours and there has been no whisper yet of it ever changing.

durham_lad Aug 14th 2017 4:13 pm

Re: Moving back to the uk on an Australian passport
 

Originally Posted by SanDiegogirl (Post 12316051)

Maybe they are following the US - who insist on you using your US passport to enter and leave the country at all times.

Australia have this rule also, plus they have actual exit controls where they check the passport that has meant you have been staying legally in the country. As an Australian/US dual citizen living in the USA my SIL returning from Australia has to show his US passport to the airline and then at border control before getting to the airplane show his Australian passport.

My daughter got her UK passport renewed a few years ago because she said she was fed up of them sniping at her when she entered the UK to visit us on her US passport.

BritInParis Aug 14th 2017 5:18 pm

Re: Moving back to the uk on an Australian passport
 

Originally Posted by durham_lad (Post 12316454)
Australia have this rule also, plus they have actual exit controls where they check the passport that has meant you have been staying legally in the country. As an Australian/US dual citizen living in the USA my SIL returning from Australia has to show his US passport to the airline and then at border control before getting to the airplane show his Australian passport.

My daughter got her UK passport renewed a few years ago because she said she was fed up of them sniping at her when she entered the UK to visit us on her US passport.

Unlike the US there's no de jure requirement to present an Australian passport. There is a de facto requirement to do so however as all non-Australians, bar New Zealanders, require a visa to board an aircraft to Australia and Australian visas cannot be issued to Australian citizens. An Australian citizen holding a foreign passport without a visa can travel to Australia, but it would require the airline in question to ring DIBP for permission to let them board (aka an 'uplift'), which they are under no obligation to do.

bats Aug 14th 2017 6:55 pm

Re: Moving back to the uk on an Australian passport
 

Originally Posted by CanadianSpvruce (Post 12316062)
Out of interest, did you give them your old British passport and BC all together with your Canadian passport or until they asked?

Expired British and Canadisn passports together. I'd done this before and then it was fine but I'm not risking meeting antagonistic officers again,

moneypenny20 Aug 14th 2017 11:46 pm

Re: Moving back to the uk on an Australian passport
 

Originally Posted by bats (Post 12316568)
Expired British and Canadisn passports together. I'd done this before and then it was fine but I'm not risking meeting antagonistic officers again,

Perhaps you meant 'officials doing their jobs correctly'? ;)

bats Aug 14th 2017 11:55 pm

Re: Moving back to the uk on an Australian passport
 

Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 12316752)
Perhaps you meant 'officials doing their jobs correctly'? ;)

No I didn't. I'm sure doing their jobs correctly involves being polite at the very least. Plus I don't need to use a UK passport to enter the UK. So no that's not what I meant at all.


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