phil01

The Times darling! well actually the Sun if I could get it...I won't take offence eventhough you would clearly like me to, you can judge me all you like but I am sure there are many people that agree...the benefits system should support those in need and there are far greater needs out there than parents having made the choice to stay at home. I stand by my value system of feeling those without a choice have a far greater need. Tribute to all the pensioners that fought in the world wars and have spent their winters living in one room because their pensions are not liveable and they can't afford to heat their houses they again have no choice, parents do!

phil01

Here Here... at last someone that sees there are needier people than picky parents.

phil01

Not at all, and a little help is fine...I am talking about the one's that don't work and don't contribute. My hubby is a trucker and works very hard for what he earns but if we don't have enough money to pay the bills he just works longer hours!

I started this thread because of other threads I read saying what can I get...they work where they are now (abroad) but seemed to have no concept of actually working when they returned to the UK, if you can work in Canada or Italy or Oz why can't you work in the UK?

Geordie George

But they won't have a job immediately upon returning to the UK, hence the reason for the thread that you seem to have taken great offence at.

The majority of people will intend to find work. But what about the meantime?

phil01

They could not have started their new lives abroad without a job or money so surely when coming back to the UK that must be a thought...oh have I actually got some money to survive the first few months, but it doesn't appear to be and to be fair if they could get a job for wherever whilst in the UK why can't they do that vice versa.

If I was looking to return to the UK my first thoughts would be to try and secure employment before going back, I certainly wouldn't be relying on benefits...not just because of not wanting to but because of the inevitable wait for them to be processed.

In my opinion people become too dependant on benefits and it's become a natural reaction...going back to the UK best get my claim in! Surely it would be better to say going back to the UK best get job hunting?

Geordie George

But in the thread today, the OP was returning following a marriage split. Not really the kind of thing you budget for. (At least I don't.)

And you must know that securing employment when you're on the wrong side of the planet is nigh on impossible. Most companies/recruitment agenices don't want to know until you're in the country.

The last statement is too ridiculous to warrant an answer.

I have to go and start dinner prep.

phil01

Your opinion your entitled to it just as I am.

NedKelly

I guess that most people turning up in the UK from third world countries turn up expecting free handouts when they haven't done a days work in the country and have no intention of doing so either. Why shouldn't ex-pats do the same?

Jessie James

I really don't get this? Where have I suggested that someone else should pay to bring up our child? We do have the finances to have a child but like most I will need to take 6 months to a year off to care for the baby. In that time we will have one income so I will claim whatever benefits I can to help us through this stage. Why is that selfish? It's perfectly normal, it's how the system works, it is why it is there. As for saying I belong to any type of brigade - bog off, you know nothing about me

gruffbrown

Is that you Haggerwood?

Geordie George

Evening, A.

Geordie George

Completely different scenarios. Most expats have contributed to the system via tax/NI contributions.

gruffbrown

Wotcha GG, very similar writing style and he's disappeared.

Geordie George

I shall monitor.

I don't normally bother with any debate, but I've been avoiding uni work for the afternoon, so I've been hiding on here.

You up to owt interesting?

gruffbrown

Not a lot, got to go down town later to claim my benefits.