Location, location, location.
#31
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Re: Location, location, location.
Hi Moses
I was hoping that by agreeing to buy a small holiday flat around Perpignan where we could spend just under 6 months a year, I could persuade my other half to move to Northern Ireland where we would have our primary residence. Indeed, I even bought a little bungalow there which is currently rented out.
For now, he’s still talking about the South coast of England, although he might change his mind once he actually deigns to visit the area in person.
Is your house in Ireland nice and warm and easy to heat? I think he’s scarred by the 6 months that he spent in my mother’s creaky old place many years ago. Coming from an overheated Moscow apartment (where they had to open the windows in winter because individual residents couldn’t regulate the temperature of the collective heating system) he found it cold and damp and consequently depressing.
What worries me a bit is that since then, my mother has moved into a 1970s bungalow, and my brother and several other family members live in similar properties, yet they’re all bloody freezing. They all have cavity wall insulation yet the heat just seems to disappear through the walls.
Apparently the new builds are much better insulated but any I’ve looked at are seriously pokey.
I know you don’t like apartments but I’m thinking that might be the best option for us. Wherever we end up. We’re in a big old first floor flat in Strasbourg and you get the warmth from the other flats around you. Plus, it’s very easy to just lock it up and leave. No need for fancy security systems.
We have a balcony (many other flats in France come with large terraces) so there is in fact a little bit of outside space.
Noise from neighbours can be a huge problem with flats of course. So far we’ve been lucky although after 23 years we’re probably used to a level of ambiant noise (car engines, the click clack of stilettos on parquet, pots banging, children crying, people making love) that would drive someone who was used to living in a detached house mad.
The great thing about a flat of course is that there is pretty much zero maintenance. Which given that we have zero interest or talent in that direction is probably a very good thing.
I was hoping that by agreeing to buy a small holiday flat around Perpignan where we could spend just under 6 months a year, I could persuade my other half to move to Northern Ireland where we would have our primary residence. Indeed, I even bought a little bungalow there which is currently rented out.
For now, he’s still talking about the South coast of England, although he might change his mind once he actually deigns to visit the area in person.
Is your house in Ireland nice and warm and easy to heat? I think he’s scarred by the 6 months that he spent in my mother’s creaky old place many years ago. Coming from an overheated Moscow apartment (where they had to open the windows in winter because individual residents couldn’t regulate the temperature of the collective heating system) he found it cold and damp and consequently depressing.
What worries me a bit is that since then, my mother has moved into a 1970s bungalow, and my brother and several other family members live in similar properties, yet they’re all bloody freezing. They all have cavity wall insulation yet the heat just seems to disappear through the walls.
Apparently the new builds are much better insulated but any I’ve looked at are seriously pokey.
I know you don’t like apartments but I’m thinking that might be the best option for us. Wherever we end up. We’re in a big old first floor flat in Strasbourg and you get the warmth from the other flats around you. Plus, it’s very easy to just lock it up and leave. No need for fancy security systems.
We have a balcony (many other flats in France come with large terraces) so there is in fact a little bit of outside space.
Noise from neighbours can be a huge problem with flats of course. So far we’ve been lucky although after 23 years we’re probably used to a level of ambiant noise (car engines, the click clack of stilettos on parquet, pots banging, children crying, people making love) that would drive someone who was used to living in a detached house mad.
The great thing about a flat of course is that there is pretty much zero maintenance. Which given that we have zero interest or talent in that direction is probably a very good thing.
#32
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Re: Location, location, location.
Thanks very much Pistolpete. I reckon that’s what my friends meant about Exmouth but weren’t able to articulate it.
#33
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Re: Location, location, location.
Hi Moses
I was hoping that by agreeing to buy a small holiday flat around Perpignan where we could spend just under 6 months a year, I could persuade my other half to move to Northern Ireland where we would have our primary residence. Indeed, I even bought a little bungalow there which is currently rented out.
For now, he’s still talking about the South coast of England, although he might change his mind once he actually deigns to visit the area in person.
Is your house in Ireland nice and warm and easy to heat? I think he’s scarred by the 6 months that he spent in my mother’s creaky old place many years ago. Coming from an overheated Moscow apartment (where they had to open the windows in winter because individual residents couldn’t regulate the temperature of the collective heating system) he found it cold and damp and consequently depressing.
What worries me a bit is that since then, my mother has moved into a 1970s bungalow, and my brother and several other family members live in similar properties, yet they’re all bloody freezing. They all have cavity wall insulation yet the heat just seems to disappear through the walls.
Apparently the new builds are much better insulated but any I’ve looked at are seriously pokey.
I know you don’t like apartments but I’m thinking that might be the best option for us. Wherever we end up. We’re in a big old first floor flat in Strasbourg and you get the warmth from the other flats around you. Plus, it’s very easy to just lock it up and leave. No need for fancy security systems.
We have a balcony (many other flats in France come with large terraces) so there is in fact a little bit of outside space.
Noise from neighbours can be a huge problem with flats of course. So far we’ve been lucky although after 23 years we’re probably used to a level of ambiant noise (car engines, the click clack of stilettos on parquet, pots banging, children crying, people making love) that would drive someone who was used to living in a detached house mad.
The great thing about a flat of course is that there is pretty much zero maintenance. Which given that we have zero interest or talent in that direction is probably a very good thing.
I was hoping that by agreeing to buy a small holiday flat around Perpignan where we could spend just under 6 months a year, I could persuade my other half to move to Northern Ireland where we would have our primary residence. Indeed, I even bought a little bungalow there which is currently rented out.
For now, he’s still talking about the South coast of England, although he might change his mind once he actually deigns to visit the area in person.
Is your house in Ireland nice and warm and easy to heat? I think he’s scarred by the 6 months that he spent in my mother’s creaky old place many years ago. Coming from an overheated Moscow apartment (where they had to open the windows in winter because individual residents couldn’t regulate the temperature of the collective heating system) he found it cold and damp and consequently depressing.
What worries me a bit is that since then, my mother has moved into a 1970s bungalow, and my brother and several other family members live in similar properties, yet they’re all bloody freezing. They all have cavity wall insulation yet the heat just seems to disappear through the walls.
Apparently the new builds are much better insulated but any I’ve looked at are seriously pokey.
I know you don’t like apartments but I’m thinking that might be the best option for us. Wherever we end up. We’re in a big old first floor flat in Strasbourg and you get the warmth from the other flats around you. Plus, it’s very easy to just lock it up and leave. No need for fancy security systems.
We have a balcony (many other flats in France come with large terraces) so there is in fact a little bit of outside space.
Noise from neighbours can be a huge problem with flats of course. So far we’ve been lucky although after 23 years we’re probably used to a level of ambiant noise (car engines, the click clack of stilettos on parquet, pots banging, children crying, people making love) that would drive someone who was used to living in a detached house mad.
The great thing about a flat of course is that there is pretty much zero maintenance. Which given that we have zero interest or talent in that direction is probably a very good thing.
I can't complain about the house in Ireland and a lot of things we improved, like attic insulation, heat pump and most of the time we only use the stove in winter which actually heats the whole house.
Here in the West, we see fewer frost days and don't need to heat as much as we did in Kent to be honest. South Coast of England certainly has a few more sunnier days during summer but then in winter you also see plenty of rain, it can feel cold and summers are still unpredictable but there are some very beautiful parts. At least you have options and if you can escape the winters, most places are not too bad in spring/summer. The thing with apartments is that I grew up in one and I just can't take the noise anymore, although one can be lucky if it's built well. That's why in Spain we went for a 2 bed small detached house a few mins away from the coast, rather than a apartment.
Last edited by Moses2013; Jul 22nd 2020 at 7:37 am.
#34
Re: Location, location, location.
Hi Moses
Noise from neighbours can be a huge problem with flats of course. So far we’ve been lucky although after 23 years we’re probably used to a level of ambiant noise (car engines, the click clack of stilettos on parquet, pots banging, children crying, people making love) that would drive someone who was used to living in a detached house mad.
The great thing about a flat of course is that there is pretty much zero maintenance. Which given that we have zero interest or talent in that direction is probably a very good thing.
Noise from neighbours can be a huge problem with flats of course. So far we’ve been lucky although after 23 years we’re probably used to a level of ambiant noise (car engines, the click clack of stilettos on parquet, pots banging, children crying, people making love) that would drive someone who was used to living in a detached house mad.
The great thing about a flat of course is that there is pretty much zero maintenance. Which given that we have zero interest or talent in that direction is probably a very good thing.
This can mean frequent changes of neighbours.
If the local commune does not have enough social housing then they sometimes rent a flat for social housing tenants in an apartment block.
As for zero maintenance, you have to consider the costs of the copropriété i.e. the joint ownership of the entire building who have responsibility for cleaning and maintenance etc.
If there are many landlords then they are not keen to pay for (as they see it) unnecessary costs.
IMHO there are too many new build flats in France but it would give a good opportunity to buy a well-insulated flat with good double glazing and soundproofing.
#35
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Re: Location, location, location.
Our charges are low - about 1300 euros per year. No lift, which helps.
After two bad experiences with professional syndics (property management companies), we the residents (5 households) manage the building ourselves.
While this keeps the charges low, the disadvantage is that there's no real pressure to do work, including what I would consider essential maintenance.
It never ceases to amaze me that a bunch of owner-occupiers can happily watch the building disintegrate around their ears.
After two bad experiences with professional syndics (property management companies), we the residents (5 households) manage the building ourselves.
While this keeps the charges low, the disadvantage is that there's no real pressure to do work, including what I would consider essential maintenance.
It never ceases to amaze me that a bunch of owner-occupiers can happily watch the building disintegrate around their ears.
#36
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Re: Location, location, location.
Our charges are low - about 1300 euros per year. No lift, which helps.
After two bad experiences with professional syndics (property management companies), we the residents (5 households) manage the building ourselves.
While this keeps the charges low, the disadvantage is that there's no real pressure to do work, including what I would consider essential maintenance.
It never ceases to amaze me that a bunch of owner-occupiers can happily watch the building disintegrate around their ears.
After two bad experiences with professional syndics (property management companies), we the residents (5 households) manage the building ourselves.
While this keeps the charges low, the disadvantage is that there's no real pressure to do work, including what I would consider essential maintenance.
It never ceases to amaze me that a bunch of owner-occupiers can happily watch the building disintegrate around their ears.
To me, the whole point in sensible management of an apartment block is to have it properly managed from within (with outside expertise regarding maintenance as needed) and a realistic service charge to include provision for building of a kitty to cover major works and those major works should be subject to a reasonable routine so that the building is kept in good order.
The level of service charges in apartment buildings is a big issue though, particularly where there is an outside manager who charges an admin fee on each and every disbursement, including major works and has a pet property insurance company whose rates may not be competitive. As you have hinted, there are then lift costs and they can be scary.
If I'm looking at a flat in a leasehold building to buy, the above are some of the first things that I ask about. Still looking, never did buy, apart from the one my mother once lived in.
Owning an apartment can be a pain. I am now encountering my FORTH leak (two of them were MAJOR leaks) from an upstairs apartment into mine, which is tenanted in the UK
Last edited by Pistolpete2; Jul 24th 2020 at 12:34 pm.