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Old Jan 2nd 2011, 2:57 am
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Originally Posted by ukintexas
How on earth can he sue under such cirumstances? We were dumbfounded. Thought I'd share to see what you all thought, and if there's any other stupid legal stories like this.
You can sue anyone if you pay the filing fee with the complaint. I don't think it would be sensible to have it any other way.
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You can sue anyone if you pay the filing fee with the complaint. I don't think it would be sensible to have it any other way.

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Old Jan 2nd 2011, 3:18 am
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Originally Posted by cindyabs
I'm not trying to be a smart ass, but in the UK would you replace the term legacy, with the term tradition as to the attendance at a particular university? Is it only on merit then, as opposed to a
As the link I posted stated "Some supporters of the elimination of all non-academic preferences also point out that many European universities, including highly selective institutions such as Oxford and Cambridge, do not use any racial, legacy, or athletic preferences in admissions decisions". Didn't used to be the case, which is how someone as thick as Prince Charles got into Cambridge.

There was actually a case at an Oxford college a few years ago - can't find a link now- where a parent tried to buy his child admission. It ended with a number of sackings at the college.

What I find ironic is that Americans think they have a meritocracy. The reality is that these days they have less of one than the countries of "old Europe"that they disparage as being class based.
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Originally Posted by Giantaxe
What I find ironic is that Americans think they have a meritocracy. The reality is that these days they have less of one than the countries of "old Europe"that they disparage as being class based.
I think it might be more accurate to say that America had a meritocracy, in the past, but a few generations ago a bunch of folks made it to the top and pulled the ladders up after them.
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Originally Posted by chartreuse
I think it might be more accurate to say that America had a meritocracy, in the past, but a few generations ago a bunch of folks made it to the top and pulled the ladders up after them.
I don't think it ever had one. After all, this is a country that practiced slavery and apartheid, the latter until a half century ago. It's done a pretty good job of selling the idea it's a meritocracy though. Here's a great editorial from The Economist on the subject:

http://www.economist.com/node/2333345?story_id=2333345

“legacy preferences”—affirmative action for the children of alumni. Indeed.

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Hoover: Kent is a legacy, Otter. His brother was a '59, Fred Dorfman.
Flounder: He said legacies usually get asked to pledge automatically.
Otter: Oh, well, usually. Unless the pledge in question turns out to be a real closet-case.
Otter, Boon: Like Fred.

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Originally Posted by Giantaxe
As the link I posted stated "Some supporters of the elimination of all non-academic preferences also point out that many European universities, including highly selective institutions such as Oxford and Cambridge, do not use any racial, legacy, or athletic preferences in admissions decisions". Didn't used to be the case, which is how someone as thick as Prince Charles got into Cambridge.

There was actually a case at an Oxford college a few years ago - can't find a link now- where a parent tried to buy his child admission. It ended with a number of sackings at the college.

What I find ironic is that Americans think they have a meritocracy. The reality is that these days they have less of one than the countries of "old Europe"that they disparage as being class based.
I can only speak for THIS American, and rather than make a generalization or disparaging another country, I would go for the school that would help me in my career aspirations.

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Originally Posted by cindyabs
I can only speak for THIS American, and rather than make a generalization or disparaging another country, I would go for the school that would help me in my career aspirations.

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Originally Posted by cindyabs
I can only speak for THIS American, and rather than make a generalization or disparaging another country, I would go for the school that would help me in my career aspirations.

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Seems to me...the kid should have worked harder to pass the exam.

I wonder if he doesn't WANT to go there and flunked it on purpose.
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Here's the incident I referred to earlier. It was actually an undercover media sting as opposed to an actual parent trying to buy a place at Oxford for their child:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembrok...ssions_scandal

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...s-scandal.html

Given the legacy policies of the top US universities, it's somewhat difficult to imagine this happening in the "meritocratic" US either:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...at-Oxford.html

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Old Jan 2nd 2011, 9:00 am
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Originally Posted by Giantaxe
Here's the incident I referred to earlier. It was actually an undercover media sting as opposed to an actual parent trying to buy a place at Oxford for their child:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembrok...ssions_scandal

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...s-scandal.html
At UKL300K, did that include a guaranteed degree too?
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Seems to me...the kid should have worked harder to pass the exam.

I wonder if he doesn't WANT to go there and flunked it on purpose.
Well, there is that angle, after all just because the parents want the kid to go there, for whatever reason doesn't mean the kid wanted to go there. If I had it to do over, I would've done a gap year. You can bet your bottom dollar however, I would've been doing a working gap year,
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...I feel bad for his kid, the dad is clearly an idiot.
So's the kid clearly, or he'd have got in on merit...
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So's the kid clearly, or he'd have got in on merit...
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