I want to talk about Pubs

Old Dec 4th 2007, 11:08 pm
  #31  
BE Forum Addict
 
Joined: May 2007
Location: England
Posts: 3,628
brits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: I want to talk about Pubs

Originally Posted by Madmac View Post
Damn - how I miss meeting my mates on a Friday evening at the bar and talking sh**e for hours.

Nice pub here called 'Shakespeares'. Funnily enough it's a Brit-style one and the stained glass in the windows and some of the woodwork was shipped over from England by the original owner.

The local Irish bars are nice too but a bit 'theme(y)' to be considered authentic.

It's just not the same.
Not talking of the Elizabethan in Armadale are you?
Jackie in Perth
brits1 is offline  
Old Dec 4th 2007, 11:09 pm
  #32  
BE Forum Addict
 
Joined: May 2007
Location: England
Posts: 3,628
brits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: I want to talk about Pubs

Originally Posted by flashman View Post
Used to go to the local when I lived in Lancashire. 6 nights a week (closed Sundays) for 3 or 4 hours a night (just like the Rover's Return). Same people babbling about the same crap every night.

Don't do it now cos I've got a life !
Yep your "litte" picture says it all...wow what a life...what did you talk about in th good old days...(my my your must be going back a long time ago)...sheep!!
Jackie
brits1 is offline  
Old Dec 5th 2007, 4:20 am
  #33  
Account Closed
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 128
Serenity is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: I want to talk about Pubs

Originally Posted by flashman View Post
Used to go to the local when I lived in Lancashire. 6 nights a week (closed Sundays) for 3 or 4 hours a night (just like the Rover's Return). Same people babbling about the same crap every night.

Don't do it now cos I've got a life !
You might have had a life in the UK if you'd stopped going to a boring old local almost every night and tried something else!
Serenity is offline  
Old Dec 5th 2007, 8:31 am
  #34  
BE Forum Addict
 
Joined: May 2007
Location: England
Posts: 3,628
brits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: I want to talk about Pubs

Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
You might have had a life in the UK if you'd stopped going to a boring old local almost every night and tried something else!
Great reply....mine would not of been so bad if I had checked my spelling mistakes!!
Jackie in Perth but my heart is always at home (my brian as well today!! I am glad it's nearly over!!!!)
brits1 is offline  
Old Dec 5th 2007, 1:31 pm
  #35  
I like pancakes!
 
Madmac's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Location: Guelph, Ontario
Posts: 2,132
Madmac has a reputation beyond reputeMadmac has a reputation beyond reputeMadmac has a reputation beyond reputeMadmac has a reputation beyond reputeMadmac has a reputation beyond reputeMadmac has a reputation beyond reputeMadmac has a reputation beyond reputeMadmac has a reputation beyond reputeMadmac has a reputation beyond reputeMadmac has a reputation beyond reputeMadmac has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: I want to talk about Pubs

Originally Posted by brits1 View Post
Not talking of the Elizabethan in Armadale are you?
Jackie in Perth
Nope - deepest Southern Ontario. Land of eternal cold.
Madmac is offline  
Old Dec 5th 2007, 11:41 pm
  #36  
BE Forum Addict
 
Joined: May 2007
Location: England
Posts: 3,628
brits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: I want to talk about Pubs

Originally Posted by USAGypsies View Post
During all the thoughts that go into shall we go home, shall we stay, I have recently decided that 'English Pubs' are absolutely essential to me.
At the risk of sounding like a right sado I ask that you give me a chance to explain myself.

I have never been a proper pub go-er... never really associated myself with a particular pub or ever been called a 'local'. No barman/lady has ever said 'your usual love?' to me. I have spent time in many pubs from about age 17, London Pubs (trivia: Did you know that there is only 1 pub on the whole of Oxford Street?! Okay, maybe I am a sado), to countryside pubs. Really beautiful picture perfect ones with pretty window boxes where you had to bend so as not to hit your head on the beams (apart from me who is barely over 5ft), to the lively Punch and Judy in Covent Garden where standing room is available if you're willing to keep your coat on your arm, be pressed and shoved like you are on the rush hour tube and talk to your work collegues underneath a complete strangers armpit.
I used to love having a pub roast with the family on a Sunday. Enjoy the beer garden on a warm summers day, listen to the conversations abound and people watch... and, well just feel like you belong and that you are welcome. They are so versatile and neutral, everyone has equal standing and you can hold a very serious meeting at lunchtime and in the same room a few hours later totally humilate yourself on the Karaoke.

Here in the US I have found no replacement... nothing even close. Some restaurants I have been to have a lovely atmosphere but it's not the same. Even the 'Faux British pubs' don't quite cut it. No matter how elaborate the decor or what is available on draught, you always feel like there is something missing... you know?

I never realised how important it was to me to have 'pubs' at my disposal until recently (when I obviously had too much time to think). For celebrating, for socialising, for just relaxing with a loved one, there's nothing else like it. I am really looking forward to having them in my life again when we return and plan to do a bit of travelling and visit some new ones. I suppose I am finding a new appreciation for things I once took for granted.

I would love to hear what others think.... those that are still here and those that have returned to the UK already
I was talking to my friend in England last night, she's just gone back home to live and loves it...only been there 5 weeks and as she is not working some of the mum from school have invited my friend out for a Christmas Lunch at their "local", they are all getting "dressed" up etc, my friend is really looking foward to it as their local is also a lovely place and she missed in while living in Aus....just because of the "social" side of it more than anything...and that says it all really, not home 5 seconds....and already having a better time than I have had all year.....just says something about being home when you want to be and a good British Local...you cannot beat them....neadless to say I now want to fast forward our return home to NOW!!!!!!!
Jackie in Perth.......were the local is not really a local!!!!!
brits1 is offline  
Old Dec 5th 2007, 11:47 pm
  #37  
BE Forum Addict
 
Joined: May 2007
Location: England
Posts: 3,628
brits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: I want to talk about Pubs

Originally Posted by Madmac View Post
Nope - deepest Southern Ontario. Land of eternal cold.
I have two Aunties who live in Ontario, married guys in the 2nd world war (my Mum was a much younger sister!!) we did think about Canada but at the time we just wanted nice weather for as long a poss all year round (and has that come back to bite my b-m) our neice and her boyfriend are thinking of moving to Vancouver . They go every year to snowboard....so when we are back home (u.k) and they are over in Canada we will visit.....our neice does say though that the entertainment is around Coffee shops, homes and pubs are more like the "bars" they have in America.....
Jackie
brits1 is offline  
Old Dec 6th 2007, 12:00 am
  #38  
I like pancakes!
 
Madmac's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Location: Guelph, Ontario
Posts: 2,132
Madmac has a reputation beyond reputeMadmac has a reputation beyond reputeMadmac has a reputation beyond reputeMadmac has a reputation beyond reputeMadmac has a reputation beyond reputeMadmac has a reputation beyond reputeMadmac has a reputation beyond reputeMadmac has a reputation beyond reputeMadmac has a reputation beyond reputeMadmac has a reputation beyond reputeMadmac has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: I want to talk about Pubs

Originally Posted by brits1 View Post
I have two Aunties who live in Ontario, married guys in the 2nd world war (my Mum was a much younger sister!!) we did think about Canada but at the time we just wanted nice weather for as long a poss all year round (and has that come back to bite my b-m) our neice and her boyfriend are thinking of moving to Vancouver . They go every year to snowboard....so when we are back home (u.k) and they are over in Canada we will visit.....our neice does say though that the entertainment is around Coffee shops, homes and pubs are more like the "bars" they have in America.....
Jackie
Never 'entertained' in a coffee shop or been entertained in one. There are hundreds of them around though (see: Tim Hortons).

Yes, a lot of entertaining around homes which really isn't the same. Most of the bars around here are fairly typical family affairs as they have to, by law, serve food. Some bars are close to what we would call a pub but without your mates it isn't the same. I'll just have to talk to more strangers when I'm drunk.
Madmac is offline  
Old Dec 6th 2007, 1:48 am
  #39  
BE Forum Addict
 
Joined: May 2007
Location: England
Posts: 3,628
brits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond reputebrits1 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: I want to talk about Pubs

Originally Posted by Madmac View Post
Never 'entertained' in a coffee shop or been entertained in one. There are hundreds of them around though (see: Tim Hortons).

Yes, a lot of entertaining around homes which really isn't the same. Most of the bars around here are fairly typical family affairs as they have to, by law, serve food. Some bars are close to what we would call a pub but without your mates it isn't the same. I'll just have to talk to more strangers when I'm drunk.
Sam here in Aus....and you can only stand home entertaining for so long and BBQ's after a few years just make us want to scream!!! pubs usually are for eating in and the others newly built ones) have now got TAB's inside them so people can drink and bet at the same time....a few British Style pubs but still nothing like at home....
Jackie
brits1 is offline  
Old Dec 6th 2007, 3:09 am
  #40  
Bugger Off!
 
Silly Sod's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Location: Michigan
Posts: 2,858
Silly Sod has a reputation beyond reputeSilly Sod has a reputation beyond reputeSilly Sod has a reputation beyond reputeSilly Sod has a reputation beyond reputeSilly Sod has a reputation beyond reputeSilly Sod has a reputation beyond reputeSilly Sod has a reputation beyond reputeSilly Sod has a reputation beyond reputeSilly Sod has a reputation beyond reputeSilly Sod has a reputation beyond reputeSilly Sod has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: I want to talk about Pubs

Originally Posted by brits1 View Post
Must depend on what City you are from...most of the Manchester ones we visited this year were really nice...mostly a lot of money spent on them for refurbs in time for the no smoking bans...the two near the Cathederal are just wonderful...outside seating areas....and as old as the hills with good tradtional food with foreign overtures!!!! you can find the "sports" pubs anywhere if thats what you like....there is plenty of those here in Perth....new ones even have TAB betting in them...how horrible is that!!
Jackie

Used to go into those pubs a lot (near the catherdral), but strangely can't remember their names. Tend to get a lot of hooligans there on a saturday afternoon though during summer. Still, nice pubs, not locals really.

Did you know they moved them brick by brick some years back? Moved them about 60 yards I think. I prefered them in shambles square.
Silly Sod is offline  
Old Dec 6th 2007, 7:09 am
  #41  
BE Enthusiast
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Location: Queensland Australia
Posts: 612
manc1 has a reputation beyond reputemanc1 has a reputation beyond reputemanc1 has a reputation beyond reputemanc1 has a reputation beyond reputemanc1 has a reputation beyond reputemanc1 has a reputation beyond reputemanc1 has a reputation beyond reputemanc1 has a reputation beyond reputemanc1 has a reputation beyond reputemanc1 has a reputation beyond reputemanc1 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: I want to talk about Pubs

It was the shambles that was moved. Great spot for a beer.
manc1 is offline  
Old Dec 6th 2007, 7:28 am
  #42  
"amuse me"
 
St.Georges Girl's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 13,863
St.Georges Girl has a reputation beyond reputeSt.Georges Girl has a reputation beyond reputeSt.Georges Girl has a reputation beyond reputeSt.Georges Girl has a reputation beyond reputeSt.Georges Girl has a reputation beyond reputeSt.Georges Girl has a reputation beyond reputeSt.Georges Girl has a reputation beyond reputeSt.Georges Girl has a reputation beyond reputeSt.Georges Girl has a reputation beyond reputeSt.Georges Girl has a reputation beyond reputeSt.Georges Girl has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: I want to talk about Pubs

Originally Posted by flashman View Post
Just a theory but for Brits to socialize they need to chat on neutral territory fuelled by alcohol.


Entertaining at home isn't done and trying to get sober Brits to chat is like pulling chickens teeth.
Sorry to have to say this and it is a first for me, but you Mr.Flashy are talking out of your a**e. Broad generalisations are a sign of ignorance and unwillingness to listen and learn. Total narrow mindedness from someone who spent almost every night of the week with people who 'babble the same old crap'.

Last edited by St.Georges Girl; Dec 6th 2007 at 7:34 am.
St.Georges Girl is offline  
Old Dec 6th 2007, 7:55 am
  #43  
BE Enthusiast
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Location: Queensland Australia
Posts: 612
manc1 has a reputation beyond reputemanc1 has a reputation beyond reputemanc1 has a reputation beyond reputemanc1 has a reputation beyond reputemanc1 has a reputation beyond reputemanc1 has a reputation beyond reputemanc1 has a reputation beyond reputemanc1 has a reputation beyond reputemanc1 has a reputation beyond reputemanc1 has a reputation beyond reputemanc1 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: I want to talk about Pubs

Originally Posted by St.Georges Girl View Post
Total narrow mindedness from someone who spent almost every night of the week with people who 'babble the same old crap'.

Mmmm, I get the impression he wasn't included in the conversation St. Georges Girl.
manc1 is offline  
Old Dec 6th 2007, 8:01 am
  #44  
"amuse me"
 
St.Georges Girl's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 13,863
St.Georges Girl has a reputation beyond reputeSt.Georges Girl has a reputation beyond reputeSt.Georges Girl has a reputation beyond reputeSt.Georges Girl has a reputation beyond reputeSt.Georges Girl has a reputation beyond reputeSt.Georges Girl has a reputation beyond reputeSt.Georges Girl has a reputation beyond reputeSt.Georges Girl has a reputation beyond reputeSt.Georges Girl has a reputation beyond reputeSt.Georges Girl has a reputation beyond reputeSt.Georges Girl has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: I want to talk about Pubs

Originally Posted by manc1 View Post
Mmmm, I get the impression he wasn't included in the conversation St. Georges Girl.
Or more like he is the type of person he's accused ALL Brit's of being. Tw*t!
St.Georges Girl is offline  
Old Dec 6th 2007, 8:17 am
  #45  
Banned
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 13
british whinger is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: I want to talk about Pubs

Alot of pubs are closing now, unfortunately, demand is high to bring a return that is not really in the market place.

Not many people can afford to go out, and stay in with there carry outs.

Saying that the traditional ones do remain , but are very expensive, and food is on the whole cheap quality at near restaurant prices.

The "british" type pub is a novelty, that wears off, after a while.



Originally Posted by USAGypsies View Post
During all the thoughts that go into shall we go home, shall we stay, I have recently decided that 'English Pubs' are absolutely essential to me.
At the risk of sounding like a right sado I ask that you give me a chance to explain myself.

I have never been a proper pub go-er... never really associated myself with a particular pub or ever been called a 'local'. No barman/lady has ever said 'your usual love?' to me. I have spent time in many pubs from about age 17, London Pubs (trivia: Did you know that there is only 1 pub on the whole of Oxford Street?! Okay, maybe I am a sado), to countryside pubs. Really beautiful picture perfect ones with pretty window boxes where you had to bend so as not to hit your head on the beams (apart from me who is barely over 5ft), to the lively Punch and Judy in Covent Garden where standing room is available if you're willing to keep your coat on your arm, be pressed and shoved like you are on the rush hour tube and talk to your work collegues underneath a complete strangers armpit.
I used to love having a pub roast with the family on a Sunday. Enjoy the beer garden on a warm summers day, listen to the conversations abound and people watch... and, well just feel like you belong and that you are welcome. They are so versatile and neutral, everyone has equal standing and you can hold a very serious meeting at lunchtime and in the same room a few hours later totally humilate yourself on the Karaoke.

Here in the US I have found no replacement... nothing even close. Some restaurants I have been to have a lovely atmosphere but it's not the same. Even the 'Faux British pubs' don't quite cut it. No matter how elaborate the decor or what is available on draught, you always feel like there is something missing... you know?

I never realised how important it was to me to have 'pubs' at my disposal until recently (when I obviously had too much time to think). For celebrating, for socialising, for just relaxing with a loved one, there's nothing else like it. I am really looking forward to having them in my life again when we return and plan to do a bit of travelling and visit some new ones. I suppose I am finding a new appreciation for things I once took for granted.

I would love to hear what others think.... those that are still here and those that have returned to the UK already
british whinger is offline  

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information -

Copyright © 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.