I wanna live where there is no crime....
Dec 16th 2009, 2:40 pm
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Dec 16th 2009, 2:55 pm
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Re: I wanna live where there is no crime....
Sorry! I was forgetting again. Australia is the land of milk and honey where there is no crime, no disease and no poverty. No social injustice or suffering of any kind in fact.
My mistake.
Dec 16th 2009, 3:21 pm
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Dec 16th 2009, 5:23 pm
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Re: I wanna live where there is no crime....
I think you echo the concerns of lots of people.
It is not always the more extreme crimes which affect the QOL of the man/woman in the street, its this kind of lower level abuse which is either observed, or experienced directly which leads people like yourself to despair and want to move somewhere more peaceful.
It is not always the more extreme crimes which affect the QOL of the man/woman in the street, its this kind of lower level abuse which is either observed, or experienced directly which leads people like yourself to despair and want to move somewhere more peaceful.
Dec 17th 2009, 3:54 pm
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Re: I wanna live where there is no crime....
I was listening to the local news here in Perth today on the radio and they mentioned they might be getting tough on people who have already been caught drink driving..they might get a longer ban....wow at long last...more than likely will not happen the hotel industry seem to have a lot of "muscle" here in Perth...and judging from the cars doing "burnouts" on the pub near where we live last night....not sure anyone would take any notice if it did happen...nope life here is perfect....(if your dreaming)....
Dec 18th 2009, 1:27 pm
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Re: I wanna live where there is no crime....
relax mono - I am indeed
but the number of potential migrants that seem to believe this myth is astounding. they give reasons for moving from the terrible UK like - drugs, crime, lack of prospects, lack of respects, not safe, yob culture, too many migrants (
) etc etc all wrapped up in the phrase - just want a better life for the kids - but the exact same stories are on the news here. recent news stories - glassings in pubs, ice factories in back yards, people beaten up in home invasions, mentally disabled girl beaten up by bullies while mum egged her on and captured it on mobile phone, blind boy in melbourne school removed due to bullying, drink culture rife in teenagers.........the list is endless. the big police crackdown on crime and anti-social behaviour in western australia made it on the UK news and when I phoned my folks, they were genuinely shocked that such things happened in Perth
- me telling them about it just seems to wash over their heads as they imagine a life lazing by the pool.
the media here is a laugh too - they had a huge segment on the news about the potential british airways strike with the "people in the Uk are so unhappy" undertone - yet the strike by australian postal workers and quantas staff hardly got a mention!!
but the number of potential migrants that seem to believe this myth is astounding. they give reasons for moving from the terrible UK like - drugs, crime, lack of prospects, lack of respects, not safe, yob culture, too many migrants (
) etc etc all wrapped up in the phrase - just want a better life for the kids - but the exact same stories are on the news here. recent news stories - glassings in pubs, ice factories in back yards, people beaten up in home invasions, mentally disabled girl beaten up by bullies while mum egged her on and captured it on mobile phone, blind boy in melbourne school removed due to bullying, drink culture rife in teenagers.........the list is endless. the big police crackdown on crime and anti-social behaviour in western australia made it on the UK news and when I phoned my folks, they were genuinely shocked that such things happened in Perth - me telling them about it just seems to wash over their heads as they imagine a life lazing by the pool.the media here is a laugh too - they had a huge segment on the news about the potential british airways strike with the "people in the Uk are so unhappy" undertone - yet the strike by australian postal workers and quantas staff hardly got a mention!!
Dec 18th 2009, 3:56 pm
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Re: I wanna live where there is no crime....
relax mono - I am indeed
but the number of potential migrants that seem to believe this myth is astounding. they give reasons for moving from the terrible UK like - drugs, crime, lack of prospects, lack of respects, not safe, yob culture, too many migrants () etc etc all wrapped up in the phrase - just want a better life for the kids - but the exact same stories are on the news here. recent news stories - glassings in pubs, ice factories in back yards, people beaten up in home invasions, mentally disabled girl beaten up by bullies while mum egged her on and captured it on mobile phone, blind boy in melbourne school removed due to bullying, drink culture rife in teenagers.........the list is endless. the big police crackdown on crime and anti-social behaviour in western australia made it on the UK news and when I phoned my folks, they were genuinely shocked that such things happened in Perth - me telling them about it just seems to wash over their heads as they imagine a life lazing by the pool.
the media here is a laugh too - they had a huge segment on the news about the potential british airways strike with the "people in the Uk are so unhappy" undertone - yet the strike by australian postal workers and quantas staff hardly got a mention!!
but the number of potential migrants that seem to believe this myth is astounding. they give reasons for moving from the terrible UK like - drugs, crime, lack of prospects, lack of respects, not safe, yob culture, too many migrants (
) etc etc all wrapped up in the phrase - just want a better life for the kids - but the exact same stories are on the news here. recent news stories - glassings in pubs, ice factories in back yards, people beaten up in home invasions, mentally disabled girl beaten up by bullies while mum egged her on and captured it on mobile phone, blind boy in melbourne school removed due to bullying, drink culture rife in teenagers.........the list is endless. the big police crackdown on crime and anti-social behaviour in western australia made it on the UK news and when I phoned my folks, they were genuinely shocked that such things happened in Perth - me telling them about it just seems to wash over their heads as they imagine a life lazing by the pool.the media here is a laugh too - they had a huge segment on the news about the potential british airways strike with the "people in the Uk are so unhappy" undertone - yet the strike by australian postal workers and quantas staff hardly got a mention!!
Dec 18th 2009, 4:22 pm
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Re: I wanna live where there is no crime....
I must object to the earlier generalisation about wanting a better life for the kids over here. Yes there is crime wherever you go, but my daughter is absolutely thriving here, with a better, more active lifestyle and less intimidation by yobs/thugs/princesses.
In the UK, we lived in a reasonably affluent area, but there was far more social pressure to grow up (ie snog boys), put make up on and dress like a hooker-AT PRIMARY SCHOOL-and in our experience it was all so much more pressured that everyone was at breaking point, ready to snap.
Here again in our own experience, (so please don't bite my head off, as you may have a different one,) although OH works harder, our general home and school life is more relaxed, and I can't believe how kind and generous the people here have been when we have had problems like our furniture not arriving for months, my bad health - which came out of the blue, and sponsoring DD when she raised a team that swam for 24 hours to raise money for MS to the tune of $9000.
I am not a total Oz lover- it isn't perfect, just different, and for us, better.
In the UK, we lived in a reasonably affluent area, but there was far more social pressure to grow up (ie snog boys), put make up on and dress like a hooker-AT PRIMARY SCHOOL-and in our experience it was all so much more pressured that everyone was at breaking point, ready to snap.
Here again in our own experience, (so please don't bite my head off, as you may have a different one,) although OH works harder, our general home and school life is more relaxed, and I can't believe how kind and generous the people here have been when we have had problems like our furniture not arriving for months, my bad health - which came out of the blue, and sponsoring DD when she raised a team that swam for 24 hours to raise money for MS to the tune of $9000.
I am not a total Oz lover- it isn't perfect, just different, and for us, better.
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Dec 18th 2009, 4:34 pm
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Re: I wanna live where there is no crime....
relax mono - I am indeed
but the number of potential migrants that seem to believe this myth is astounding. they give reasons for moving from the terrible UK like - drugs, crime, lack of prospects, lack of respects, not safe, yob culture, too many migrants () etc etc all wrapped up in the phrase - just want a better life for the kids - but the exact same stories are on the news here. recent news stories - glassings in pubs, ice factories in back yards, people beaten up in home invasions, mentally disabled girl beaten up by bullies while mum egged her on and captured it on mobile phone, blind boy in melbourne school removed due to bullying, drink culture rife in teenagers.........the list is endless. the big police crackdown on crime and anti-social behaviour in western australia made it on the UK news and when I phoned my folks, they were genuinely shocked that such things happened in Perth - me telling them about it just seems to wash over their heads as they imagine a life lazing by the pool.
the media here is a laugh too - they had a huge segment on the news about the potential british airways strike with the "people in the Uk are so unhappy" undertone - yet the strike by australian postal workers and quantas staff hardly got a mention!!
but the number of potential migrants that seem to believe this myth is astounding. they give reasons for moving from the terrible UK like - drugs, crime, lack of prospects, lack of respects, not safe, yob culture, too many migrants (
) etc etc all wrapped up in the phrase - just want a better life for the kids - but the exact same stories are on the news here. recent news stories - glassings in pubs, ice factories in back yards, people beaten up in home invasions, mentally disabled girl beaten up by bullies while mum egged her on and captured it on mobile phone, blind boy in melbourne school removed due to bullying, drink culture rife in teenagers.........the list is endless. the big police crackdown on crime and anti-social behaviour in western australia made it on the UK news and when I phoned my folks, they were genuinely shocked that such things happened in Perth - me telling them about it just seems to wash over their heads as they imagine a life lazing by the pool.the media here is a laugh too - they had a huge segment on the news about the potential british airways strike with the "people in the Uk are so unhappy" undertone - yet the strike by australian postal workers and quantas staff hardly got a mention!!
People can't get their heads around the fact that Australia is really no safer. Crime per capita is basically the same in Aus as in UK - in some cases actually worse in Aus.
The media does always portray Britain negatively and Australia positively. I hate the Aussie media. It's dreadful.
Dec 19th 2009, 1:22 am
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Re: I wanna live where there is no crime....
I must object to the earlier generalisation about wanting a better life for the kids over here. Yes there is crime wherever you go, but my daughter is absolutely thriving here, with a better, more active lifestyle and less intimidation by yobs/thugs/princesses.
In the UK, we lived in a reasonably affluent area, but there was far more social pressure to grow up (ie snog boys), put make up on and dress like a hooker-AT PRIMARY SCHOOL-and in our experience it was all so much more pressured that everyone was at breaking point, ready to snap.
Here again in our own experience, (so please don't bite my head off, as you may have a different one,) although OH works harder, our general home and school life is more relaxed, and I can't believe how kind and generous the people here have been when we have had problems like our furniture not arriving for months, my bad health - which came out of the blue, and sponsoring DD when she raised a team that swam for 24 hours to raise money for MS to the tune of $9000.
I am not a total Oz lover- it isn't perfect, just different, and for us, better.
In the UK, we lived in a reasonably affluent area, but there was far more social pressure to grow up (ie snog boys), put make up on and dress like a hooker-AT PRIMARY SCHOOL-and in our experience it was all so much more pressured that everyone was at breaking point, ready to snap.
Here again in our own experience, (so please don't bite my head off, as you may have a different one,) although OH works harder, our general home and school life is more relaxed, and I can't believe how kind and generous the people here have been when we have had problems like our furniture not arriving for months, my bad health - which came out of the blue, and sponsoring DD when she raised a team that swam for 24 hours to raise money for MS to the tune of $9000.
I am not a total Oz lover- it isn't perfect, just different, and for us, better.
nothing wrong with that - glad to hear that you are having a good life and that your daughter is thriving -as you said yourself, everyone's experiences are different. I find the social pressures here just as bad for kids - there are 9 year olds in my daughters class with false nails, bras and highlights. I was watching one of the morning shows the other week (not through choice but in a clinic waiting room) and the bird that does the house cleaning hints and tips was on with her daughter who looked about 12 - and there she was with a full set of manicured, painted false nails - and on national TV. I was gobsmacked. I see just as many young girls caked in make up here and wearing and wearing strapless mini dresses that cover very little as I did in england - the only difference is that they aren't turning blue with the cold LOL!! and they also talk of pashing each other in primary school here.
my point is also that there is good and bad everywhere - and yes many kids will thrive in oz and love the way of life - but it doesnt come automatically guaranteed with the visa as some would have you think.
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Dec 19th 2009, 1:31 am
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Re: I wanna live where there is no crime....
I told a friend about how people get quite anxious during bush fire season and he laughed and said ''no more chance of that than getting stabbed in England''.
People can't get their heads around the fact that Australia is really no safer. Crime per capita is basically the same in Aus as in UK - in some cases actually worse in Aus.
The media does always portray Britain negatively and Australia positively. I hate the Aussie media. It's dreadful.
People can't get their heads around the fact that Australia is really no safer. Crime per capita is basically the same in Aus as in UK - in some cases actually worse in Aus.
The media does always portray Britain negatively and Australia positively. I hate the Aussie media. It's dreadful.
