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TruBrit Nov 15th 2008 2:54 am

Re: How Much Are You Going Back With?
 

Originally Posted by Fleaflyfloflum (Post 6975805)
He does not qualify because as he stated in his post, he has never lived in UK or paid any taxes.

I did not think i would be entitled myself, but I think it was Sue the admin on here who posted way back when i was very sick over there and worried about my dwindling funds, that there was some court case which changed the rulings there about returning expats being eligible to funds.
Turned out to be correct. Providing i filled out the habitual residency form asking if i intended to be settling back there, why i came back there and what were my ties to the UK, if i answered correctly i was entitled.
I ended up getting the basic income support allowance as i was not entitled to incapacity benefit.


ahh OK, I missed where he said he'd never lived in the UK...tks

Baby75 Nov 15th 2008 1:33 pm

Re: How Much Are You Going Back With?
 

Originally Posted by chance to be (Post 6975808)
Hi
Came back about 2 yrs ago with 2 kids, one dog, no home and £200. Now we have a joint income of around £70k, and a large mortage (negative equity:eek:) Didnt ship all the furniture back from Oz so slept on the floor for about 6weeks etc etc etc..... but it shows you it can be done, if you are desperate enough at the time to force yourself to take a gamble.
I must say, though that all of this would have been impossible were in not for the tremendous support of family/friends rallying round.
Good luck


well done we will be the same staying with my parents and probably have very little money maybe 2000 if we are lucky. but we are determined to make it work luckily i have family who are willing to help one of the main reason for going home I miss them all to much

Black Sheep Nov 18th 2008 11:33 am

Re: How Much Are You Going Back With?
 

Originally Posted by DDL (Post 6971493)

I keep thinking about my great-grandparents who were immigrants to America from Austria at the turn of the century. They arrived at Ellis Island with 2 suitcases, 2 little boys and couldn't even speak the language. They survived. Just look how much easier things are for us nowadays.

(Sorry this is going a bit off topic....)

Hi DDL - am curious to know exactly where in USA your Austrian g-grandparents ended up? And which part of Austria did they come from?

Re, 'how much are you going back with?': Gosh, age has made me realistic enough to know that money may not buy happiness, but lack of same can definitely make one UNhappy. I would so be out of here by now if money was no issue, but I just cannot leave until I've made up some of the money I've 'lost' in the past 5 years in NZ. I don't have parents any more to fall back on in hard times, and I made the huge mistake of losing contact over the years with my friends in UK and it will take a lot of time and work to rebuild those once very close friendships.

But in my current situation lack of money leaves me unable to maintain friendships, I'm too preoccupied with sorting out my problems. I need desperately to get my family out of this country, but I will have to hold on a bit longer, as I know I will HAVE to have a certain amount of money in hand before I'd feel happy to move to UK. I still haven't been able to work out the most important question though: HOW much is 'enough'???? No rose-tinted spectacles here about UK, I know that I'd be miserable in UK if we (or even just my OH) had to bear a long commute time, dreary weather in a too-small house, dealing with the social issues that UK (as elsewhere) is facing. We have extremely bright children too, who need to be at the best schools we can afford (or where we can get scholarships for them) if we want to 'do the best by them' as is our job really, isn't it, as good parents? When I was last actually living in London, I could've bought a 3-storey semi on one of the best roads in Muswell HIll for less than GBP 100,000. Those houses are at several million now!

On the other hand, I'm very creative and if I found the right partner (business partner) I'm sure I could make a go of something, I'm very motivated - and maybe I'd work my way up quickly. ButI couldnt' do that in a dreary little house - I've been miserable in cold/damp houses in NZ for 5 1/2 years, and I know what that does to your motivation and state of mind!!! I also need extra space and light in any home I have, to do my work, and I need outdoor space too for my sanity (although it doesn't have to be MY space/MY garden - jsut any open space and greenery outside my windows that makes me feel I can breathe and that my kids can run around on!)

So, just have to figure out at what point I can say: OK, I have enough money now, I know I can make a go of it with a fair chance of success now. Any ideas about the 'how much' part anyone? Maybe one day I"ll start a thread here and everywhere else I can think of just in case there are like-minded creative souls to start up a business with

YankeemovingAbroad Nov 18th 2008 5:22 pm

Re: How Much Are You Going Back With?
 

Originally Posted by Black Sheep (Post 6987286)
(Sorry this is going a bit off topic....)

Hi DDL - am curious to know exactly where in USA your Austrian g-grandparents ended up? And which part of Austria did they come from?

Re, 'how much are you going back with?': Gosh, age has made me realistic enough to know that money may not buy happiness, but lack of same can definitely make one UNhappy. I would so be out of here by now if money was no issue, but I just cannot leave until I've made up some of the money I've 'lost' in the past 5 years in NZ. I don't have parents any more to fall back on in hard times, and I made the huge mistake of losing contact over the years with my friends in UK and it will take a lot of time and work to rebuild those once very close friendships.

But in my current situation lack of money leaves me unable to maintain friendships, I'm too preoccupied with sorting out my problems. I need desperately to get my family out of this country, but I will have to hold on a bit longer, as I know I will HAVE to have a certain amount of money in hand before I'd feel happy to move to UK. I still haven't been able to work out the most important question though: HOW much is 'enough'???? No rose-tinted spectacles here about UK, I know that I'd be miserable in UK if we (or even just my OH) had to bear a long commute time, dreary weather in a too-small house, dealing with the social issues that UK (as elsewhere) is facing. We have extremely bright children too, who need to be at the best schools we can afford (or where we can get scholarships for them) if we want to 'do the best by them' as is our job really, isn't it, as good parents? When I was last actually living in London, I could've bought a 3-storey semi on one of the best roads in Muswell HIll for less than GBP 100,000. Those houses are at several million now!

On the other hand, I'm very creative and if I found the right partner (business partner) I'm sure I could make a go of something, I'm very motivated - and maybe I'd work my way up quickly. ButI couldnt' do that in a dreary little house - I've been miserable in cold/damp houses in NZ for 5 1/2 years, and I know what that does to your motivation and state of mind!!! I also need extra space and light in any home I have, to do my work, and I need outdoor space too for my sanity (although it doesn't have to be MY space/MY garden - jsut any open space and greenery outside my windows that makes me feel I can breathe and that my kids can run around on!)

So, just have to figure out at what point I can say: OK, I have enough money now, I know I can make a go of it with a fair chance of success now. Any ideas about the 'how much' part anyone? Maybe one day I"ll start a thread here and everywhere else I can think of just in case there are like-minded creative souls to start up a business with

Could you move with 18,000 pounds including travel and shipping expense? That should leave you with about 10,000 pounds to set up shop and find jobs.

kevin747 Nov 23rd 2008 6:01 pm

Re: How Much Are You Going Back With?
 

Originally Posted by cricket1 (Post 6967023)
I hope this isn't an impolite question but at least it might be an interesting debate on how much you need to start life again in the UK. Although bearing in mind, some people who already live there as well as in any other country, do not enjoy a comfortable standard of living.

We're able to go back, buy a small house outright, transfer business, buy a car and live for a while without racing off to get a job.

But.....we've had to cash our pensions in to raise the cash. As the housing market is flat, we'll probably buy 2 houses eventually, one to live in, one as a retirement fund.

This isn't because we're loaded. It's our own financial planning strategy. We wouldn't get a mortgage easily because our credit history is broken by living abroad so we have to buy a house for cash. Once we've established a new credit rating, we'll borrow to buy another house.

I'm just planning around the problems we'll face when do head back and thinking how best to prioritise the capital we do have available knowing that borrowing won't be an option for a while.

Answer
1 More than you
2 I think this post is vulgar and I don't believe you.

backagen Nov 23rd 2008 7:17 pm

Re: How Much Are You Going Back With?
 
That's a very olde English attitude towards money!

"Vulgar"! LOL

Surely there's nothing wrong with the question. We all know money makes things a lot easier when it comes to relocating.

I thought the question was asked in a perfectly respectful and reasonable way and let's face it, it's a very important question.

However, if you don't wish to answer it, well don't!

cricket1again Nov 23rd 2008 7:25 pm

Re: How Much Are You Going Back With?
 

Originally Posted by backagen (Post 7003270)
That's a very olde English attitude towards money!

"Vulgar"! LOL

Surely there's nothing wrong with the question. We all know money makes things a lot easier when it comes to relocating.

I thought the question was asked in a perfectly respectful and reasonable way and let's face it, it's a very important question.

However, if you don't wish to answer it, well don't!

Backagen, don't worry about it. I've had a problem with him on another post and he's obviously not happy. Just ignore him.;)

kevin747 Nov 23rd 2008 7:33 pm

Re: How Much Are You Going Back With?
 

Originally Posted by cricket1 (Post 7003276)
Backagen, don't worry about it. I've had a problem with him on another post and he's obviously not happy. Just ignore him.;)

I am happy.You are not to ask a question like this indicates your own insecuriy

backagen Nov 23rd 2008 8:12 pm

Re: How Much Are You Going Back With?
 

Originally Posted by kevin747 (Post 7003293)
I am happy.You are not to ask a question like this indicates your own insecuriy

All I'm going to say is let's not be childish. I'll leave it at that!

DDL Nov 24th 2008 2:19 am

Re: How Much Are You Going Back With?
 

Originally Posted by Black Sheep (Post 6987286)
(Sorry this is going a bit off topic....) Hi DDL - am curious to know exactly where in USA your Austrian g-grandparents ended up? And which part of Austria did they come from?

They were from what was Slovenia at the time, on the Austrian border. I'm at work right now and I can't remember the name of the village, but I can find out later. They landed at Ellis Island and ended up in a small town in Illinois called Peru, on the Illinois River. Someone my g-grandpa knew had previously emigrated there and was his sponsor. GGrandpa worked in the coal mines in Peru, then later for a brewery. :beer:

I don't believe they ever did learn English. My grandpa and his brother went to school only knowing German and had to learn to speak English at school, then would come home at night and have to speak German.

And we think emigrating TODAY is difficult!

Marmalade Nov 25th 2008 1:05 pm

Re: How Much Are You Going Back With?
 

Originally Posted by DDL (Post 7004300)
They were from what was Slovenia at the time, on the Austrian border. I'm at work right now and I can't remember the name of the village, but I can find out later. They landed at Ellis Island and ended up in a small town in Illinois called Peru, on the Illinois River. Someone my g-grandpa knew had previously emigrated there and was his sponsor. GGrandpa worked in the coal mines in Peru, then later for a brewery. :beer:

I don't believe they ever did learn English. My grandpa and his brother went to school only knowing German and had to learn to speak English at school, then would come home at night and have to speak German.

And we think emigrating TODAY is difficult!

What a great story! I visited Ellis Island in July and it really makes you think about what the new immigrants had to go through at that time. And, I live in Illinois, but not in Peru;)

DunRoaminTheUK Nov 25th 2008 1:20 pm

Re: How Much Are You Going Back With?
 

Originally Posted by kevin747 (Post 7003136)
Answer
1 More than you
2 I think this post is vulgar and I don't believe you.

Obviously your intelligence quotient is not commensurate with your bank balance?

Bijilo123 Nov 25th 2008 3:41 pm

Re: How Much Are You Going Back With?
 
But if he's not telling the truth then it makes him very intelligent.

Getting back on track I really don't think that you can put a figure on how much you need. You can certainly say how much you came back with but there is just no certainty left now so how long the amount will last is anyones guess.

DunRoaminTheUK Nov 25th 2008 4:14 pm

Re: How Much Are You Going Back With?
 

Originally Posted by Bijilo123 (Post 7010367)
But if he's not telling the truth then it makes him very intelligent.

Getting back on track I really don't think that you can put a figure on how much you need. You can certainly say how much you came back with but there is just no certainty left now so how long the amount will last is anyones guess.

..or possibly just a liar?

kevin747 Nov 25th 2008 5:31 pm

Re: How Much Are You Going Back With?
 

Originally Posted by DunRoaminTheUK (Post 7010118)
Obviously your intelligence quotient is not commensurate with your bank balance?

It might even by higher than yours


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