How is Health care in the UK
#16
Lost in BE Cyberspace
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 41,518
Re: How is Health care in the UK
...and turning up after 11 years wanting free treatment for a chronic condition.
#17
Re: How is Health care in the UK
Last Friday night my 84 yr old MIL woke up during the night covered in blood. It was a nose bleed...but she takes Warfarin and hasn't had a nose bleed before and this was a particularly heavy bleed. Without a second thought an ambulance was called...within a few minutes she was on her way to the hospital. Upon arrival at A&E she was in seen immediately and was there for 5 hours while various tests were carried out.
She didn't have to think about the cost of the ambulance or the tens of thousands of pounds the visit to A&E would cost her.
Posts such as the opening post make me so angry. During the last 12 months of my mother's life she had outstanding medical care. The UK Social Services is second to non IMO. Mum had 4 care workers a day...the first to get her out of bed, bathed, dressed and give her breakfast. The second to give her lunch, the third to give her dinner and the fourth to get her undressed and make sure she was safely in bed. For years her family doctor has called to see her...even called at her home to give her flu shots. I could go on...but what would be the point...some only open threads to flame.
She didn't have to think about the cost of the ambulance or the tens of thousands of pounds the visit to A&E would cost her.
Posts such as the opening post make me so angry. During the last 12 months of my mother's life she had outstanding medical care. The UK Social Services is second to non IMO. Mum had 4 care workers a day...the first to get her out of bed, bathed, dressed and give her breakfast. The second to give her lunch, the third to give her dinner and the fourth to get her undressed and make sure she was safely in bed. For years her family doctor has called to see her...even called at her home to give her flu shots. I could go on...but what would be the point...some only open threads to flame.
Last edited by Jerseygirl; Sep 1st 2010 at 10:29 pm. Reason: typo
#18
Re: How is Health care in the UK
Look, I'll admit it....I am a recovering democrat.....now Republican and yes I couldn't help making a comment about the worst US president in history but I wasn't looking for a war of words. I do have to say that the hatred between the sane right and loony left is scary...I prefer UK politics and look forward to only having to listen to the politicans lie to me once every 5 years instead of every 2 years........though while I am still living here, I am glad that we don't have to wait a parlimentary term to get rid of that prized squashed tomato Pelosi.
Question: "What do Americans call the British Labour party?"
Answer: "Socialists"
Question: "What do Americans call the British Conservative Party?"
Answer: "Socialists"
If you think Obama and the Democrats are beyond the pale of your political tastes, and his health care plans are idiotic, I can't for the life of me figure out why you want to return to the UK, which has the very brand of socialised medicine that Obama is trying to achieve, and whose politics of all stripes is far to the left of anything in the US ...
OK, you got me, hook, line, and sinker. Congratulations.
Last edited by dunroving; Sep 1st 2010 at 10:14 pm.
#19
Lost in BE Cyberspace
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 41,518
Re: How is Health care in the UK
Last Friday night my 84 yr old MIL woke up during the night covered in blood. It was a nose bleed...but she takes Warfarin and hasn't had a nose bleed before and this was a particularly heavy bleed. Without a second thought an ambulance was called...within a few minutes she was on her way to the hospital. Upon arrival at A&E she was in seen immediately and was there for 5 hours while various tests were carried out.
She didn't have to think about the cost of the ambulance or the tens of thousands of pounds the visit to A&E would cost her.
Posts such as the opening post make me so angry. During the last 12 months of my mother's life she had outstanding medical care. The UK Social Services is second to non IMO. Mum had 4 care workers a day...the first to get her out of bed, bathed, dressed and give her breakfast. The second to give her lunch, the third to give her dinner and the fourth to get her undressed and make sure she was safely in bed. For years her family doctor has called to see her...even called at her home to give her flu shots. I could go on...buy what would be the point...some only open threads to inflame.
She didn't have to think about the cost of the ambulance or the tens of thousands of pounds the visit to A&E would cost her.
Posts such as the opening post make me so angry. During the last 12 months of my mother's life she had outstanding medical care. The UK Social Services is second to non IMO. Mum had 4 care workers a day...the first to get her out of bed, bathed, dressed and give her breakfast. The second to give her lunch, the third to give her dinner and the fourth to get her undressed and make sure she was safely in bed. For years her family doctor has called to see her...even called at her home to give her flu shots. I could go on...buy what would be the point...some only open threads to inflame.
#21
Lost in BE Cyberspace
Joined: Jan 2006
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 12,865
Re: How is Health care in the UK
The 91 old mother of a friend of mine is getting her hip replaced this week... so much for the Republican claim that under socialized medicine, old people don't get treated:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...form-untruths/
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...form-untruths/
#22
Lost in BE Cyberspace
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 41,518
Re: How is Health care in the UK
The 91 old mother of a friend of mine is getting her hip replaced this week... so much for the Republican claim that under socialized medicine, old people don't get treated:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...form-untruths/
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...form-untruths/
#23
Lost in BE Cyberspace
Joined: Jan 2006
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 12,865
Re: How is Health care in the UK
People such as scientist Stephen Hawking wouldn't have a chance in the U.K., where the National Health Service would say the life of this brilliant man, because of his physical handicaps, is essentially worthless.
Last edited by Giantaxe; Sep 1st 2010 at 10:43 pm.
#24
Lost in BE Cyberspace
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 41,518
Re: How is Health care in the UK
My SIL has a very severely handicapped son, far from a 'brilliant scientist' he has nevertheless received outstanding care throughout his life and is one of the longest-lived people with his syndrome ever.
#26
Just Joined
Thread Starter
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 20
Re: How is Health care in the UK
you are a typical cool-aid liberal that believes all the c**p your party is professing....and you are such a fool if you think the health bill is going to give my wife long term care...the bill that they took so much time to read, that they didn't bribe for votes, that they discussed in full view of the public, that will bring down costs.........NOT.......Everything a liberal does is all about one thing and one thing only.......CONTROL. When the democrats bankrupt the country with all their spending dreams, it will lead to higher taxes and health care rationing........and how do they do rationing?? If you have a 50 year old and a 80 year old both wanting the same operation guess who is sh*t out of luck. Yes I have had good jobs with good insurance but I have also been unemployed for a year in that 11 years and had state health insurance during that time.........yes I was very grateful for it but I was glad to get off it once I secured my next job because of all the bureaucratic nonsense you had to go through and this is what democrats have given this country.
#28
Re: How is Health care in the UK
you are a typical cool-aid liberal that believes all the c**p your party is professing....and you are such a fool if you think the health bill is going to give my wife long term care...the bill that they took so much time to read, that they didn't bribe for votes, that they discussed in full view of the public, that will bring down costs.........NOT.......Everything a liberal does is all about one thing and one thing only.......CONTROL. When the democrats bankrupt the country with all their spending dreams, it will lead to higher taxes and health care rationing........and how do they do rationing?? If you have a 50 year old and a 80 year old both wanting the same operation guess who is sh*t out of luck. Yes I have had good jobs with good insurance but I have also been unemployed for a year in that 11 years and had state health insurance during that time.........yes I was very grateful for it but I was glad to get off it once I secured my next job because of all the bureaucratic nonsense you had to go through and this is what democrats have given this country.
Healthcare Reform might have gone a long way towards helping out your wife, if it hadn't been watered down to appease pocket lining, lobby loving nuts that run about stirring up the pot with imaginary "DEATH PANELS" and scared the hell out of average Joe. I've yet to see any rationing in the UK...so why would it happen here?
Higher taxes. Hell yeah, bring it on if it means I can go get treated for illness without being bankrupt. Taxes would have to raise a long way before the take as much out of my household income as health insurance does.
Also, why do you feel the need for two accounts on here?
#29
Re: How is Health care in the UK
There are some things that the government should have some control over. Healthcare is one of them. Why? Because allowing businesses to run it just means that people get more and more shafted as money gets put before something as important as a persons health. But then that is the Capitalist way isn't it. Business (like you apparently) only give a crap about themselves and to hell with every other poor needy sod out there that might not have a pot to piss in, let alone money to keep them in good health.
Healthcare Reform might have gone a long way towards helping out your wife, if it hadn't been watered down to appease pocket lining, lobby loving nuts that run about stirring up the pot with imaginary "DEATH PANELS" and scared the hell out of average Joe. I've yet to see any rationing in the UK...so why would it happen here?
Higher taxes. Hell yeah, bring it on if it means I can go get treated for illness without being bankrupt. Taxes would have to raise a long way before the take as much out of my household income as health insurance does.
Also, why do you feel the need for two accounts on here?
Healthcare Reform might have gone a long way towards helping out your wife, if it hadn't been watered down to appease pocket lining, lobby loving nuts that run about stirring up the pot with imaginary "DEATH PANELS" and scared the hell out of average Joe. I've yet to see any rationing in the UK...so why would it happen here?
Higher taxes. Hell yeah, bring it on if it means I can go get treated for illness without being bankrupt. Taxes would have to raise a long way before the take as much out of my household income as health insurance does.
Also, why do you feel the need for two accounts on here?
#30
BE Forum Addict
Joined: May 2007
Location: England
Posts: 4,212
Re: How is Health care in the UK
Ok folks, please be honest.......seeing as the idiot in the White House is about to destroy the best healthcare system in the world, I was wondering how the NHS was doing these days. It was in pretty bad shape when I left 11 years ago..somehow it would have to be able to look after my wife who has a chronic illness for us to eventually move back to the UK.