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durham_lad Jun 17th 2022 7:30 am

Re: How Hard Can It Be?
 

Originally Posted by Lion in Winter (Post 13122663)
So a former resident alien green card holder with more than the 40 quarters worked will never be able to show proof of citizenship because he isn't one, naturalized or otherwise. I assume there must be some other route then, no doubt involving lots of forms.

Nope, I still don’t think you get it.

Only if you are a Naturalized US citizen will you be asked to prove citizenship. The system discriminates against US citizenships as far as I can see. If you have paid into the system and are not a US citizen then no problems but IF you answer yes to being a US citizen then you have to go through this craziness to prove that you are in fact a US citizen even though you are fully entitled to the benefits.

Lion in Winter Jun 17th 2022 9:04 am

Re: How Hard Can It Be?
 

Originally Posted by durham_lad (Post 13122687)
Nope, I still don’t think you get it.

Only if you are a Naturalized US citizen will you be asked to prove citizenship. The system discriminates against US citizenships as far as I can see. If you have paid into the system and are not a US citizen then no problems but IF you answer yes to being a US citizen then you have to go through this craziness to prove that you are in fact a US citizen even though you are fully entitled to the benefits.

Yes, that's what I understood from your previous post.

durham_lad Jun 18th 2022 1:19 am

Re: How Hard Can It Be?
 

Originally Posted by Lion in Winter (Post 13122704)
Yes, that's what I understood from your previous post.

It really should be quite easy if you are not a US citizen. When my wife applied through the US Embassy she provided her SSN and other contact details then a few weeks later received a phone call from them. She had the agent on speaker phone and he was extremely helpful. He had her SS record and told her what the monthly payment would be prior to starting any future pensions affecting WEP, and he pointed her to the form to fill in once she knew what her OAP would be and how many years of NI contributions were due to work, and he said they would check that record with DWP. My wife's accent is very english and I'm sure he expected her not to be a USC when he asked the question. He was very apologetic and said that because the SSA did not have her on record as being a USC then that had to be corrected. I believe that if we had not been USCs then that would have been the end of the interview. I also believe that if she had not set the citizenship record straight then she would still have received her SS payments, I can't see how they could deny her. At least it was only piece of mail containing 2 forms, and 2 passports for both of us to register our citizenship with the SSA.

Back in 1998 when we were sworn in and got our Naturalization certificates in the Federal building in New Orleans we immediately went up a few floors to the passport office and applied for our passports. We then each took our new US passports to our employers so they could register us on their books as USCs rather than legal immigrants. We don't recall being told that it was up to us to register our citizenship status to the SSA, but we may have missed that piece of info.

freerskier Jun 18th 2022 2:08 pm

Re: How Hard Can It Be?
 
Thanks. I'm a fairly below average driver at best:(, so this is a weight off.

durham_lad Jun 19th 2022 12:20 am

Re: How Hard Can It Be?
 

Originally Posted by freerskier (Post 13122882)
Thanks. I'm a fairly below average driver at best:(, so this is a weight off.


No worries, 50% of drivers are below average. :)


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