High Crime Rate in the UK?
#16
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Re: High Crime Rate in the UK?
I was just thinking through my friends and family back in the UK and I don't know anyone who has been the victim of a crime. They live in Manchester and the areas around Leeds - although my mum lives in the wilds of Cumbria.
I was burgled 20 years ago living in a ground floor flat in Hull, but I'm the only one I know who has ever experienced that, and Hull really does have a high crime rate.
You can check crime rates for each area on the website upmystreet.com.
To see how wildly it varies, here's Hull:
http://www.upmystreet.com/local/crime-in-hull.html
And here's my favorite town:
http://www.upmystreet.com/local/crime-in-kendal.html
I was burgled 20 years ago living in a ground floor flat in Hull, but I'm the only one I know who has ever experienced that, and Hull really does have a high crime rate.
You can check crime rates for each area on the website upmystreet.com.
To see how wildly it varies, here's Hull:
http://www.upmystreet.com/local/crime-in-hull.html
And here's my favorite town:
http://www.upmystreet.com/local/crime-in-kendal.html
I'm just watching on the local news about a woman who has shot her teenage son and daughter..... the reason? She was sick of them talking back at her.
#17
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Re: High Crime Rate in the UK?
when i was in the UK I don't remember any burglaries, but there was a murder on the farm next to us.. there was a lot of violent crimes, similar to what the Doc was saying..
South Africa was a different ball game and better left for another thread... but on the car note i used to get mine broken into so much i always had a couple of quarter lights spear...
Australia
had my car done twice..
out of interest dose anyone bother to report car break ins?
South Africa was a different ball game and better left for another thread... but on the car note i used to get mine broken into so much i always had a couple of quarter lights spear...
Australia
had my car done twice..
out of interest dose anyone bother to report car break ins?
#18
Re: High Crime Rate in the UK?
Of course, you definitely don't want to live on Coronation Street or in Emmerdale - there's a murder every few weeks.
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Re: High Crime Rate in the UK?
Now you mention it
The woman who was killed was the opposite scenario, a very quiet even submissive lady and a vicious controlling husband.
or Midsomer
or Midsomer
#20
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You live in the Bay area don't you. We stopped watching the local news a long time ago because of how depressing it is.
#22
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Re: High Crime Rate in the UK?
This definitely varies depending on where you are. I grew up just outside Stirling in Scotland and was happy to walk around day or night. I was a student in Edinburgh, where I was also happy to walk around the city day or night. However I have been living in Glasgow for nearly 5 years now, and I rarely feel safe anywhere! I had never called the police until I moved here... now I think it averages out at once a year. I know people who have witnessed attempted murders, who have been attacked, who have been broken into, I find the atmosphere here quite disconcerting sometimes. But I also know that is *my* perception, because I have friends who wouldn't give the same view at all. It all comes down to personal experience, how much you are bothered by certain things, and where you are.
#23
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This was from 2009, but it was just the first one that came up when I googled.
I studied Criminal Law about 10 years ago and the findings were pretty much the same then; that the perception of crime rarely has anything to do with the actual crime rate.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...s-1750036.html
The findings of the British Crime Survey (BCS), an annual analysis of crime figures for England and Wales, were both striking and positive. Positive because crime is going down; striking because the findings are at odds with public perceptions. The number of murders, manslaughters, and child killings has dropped by 17 per cent to a 20-year low. Thefts and domestic burglaries are up, but overall crime is down by 5 per cent, with violent crime and gun crime down by six and 17 per cent respectively. And yet, as surveys consistently show, though public perceptions of crime fluctuate (generally quite mildly), the prevailing view steadfastly holds that crime is much more widespread and out of control than it really is.
I studied Criminal Law about 10 years ago and the findings were pretty much the same then; that the perception of crime rarely has anything to do with the actual crime rate.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...s-1750036.html
The findings of the British Crime Survey (BCS), an annual analysis of crime figures for England and Wales, were both striking and positive. Positive because crime is going down; striking because the findings are at odds with public perceptions. The number of murders, manslaughters, and child killings has dropped by 17 per cent to a 20-year low. Thefts and domestic burglaries are up, but overall crime is down by 5 per cent, with violent crime and gun crime down by six and 17 per cent respectively. And yet, as surveys consistently show, though public perceptions of crime fluctuate (generally quite mildly), the prevailing view steadfastly holds that crime is much more widespread and out of control than it really is.
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Re: High Crime Rate in the UK?
The findings of the British Crime Survey (BCS), an annual analysis of crime figures for England and Wales, were both striking and positive. Positive because crime is going down; striking because the findings are at odds with public perceptions. The number of murders, manslaughters, and child killings has dropped by 17 per cent to a 20-year low. Thefts and domestic burglaries are up, but overall crime is down by 5 per cent, with violent crime and gun crime down by six and 17 per cent respectively. And yet, as surveys consistently show, though public perceptions of crime fluctuate (generally quite mildly), [B]the prevailing view steadfastly holds that crime is much more widespread and out of control than it really is.
i do agree that it perception
#25
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The police have basically no involvement in the British Crime Survey, since it's compiled by a market research agency on behalf of the Home Office.
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but surely it is to do with weather a crime is solved or not? and that the police do have control over i assume?
there are also crimes that don't get reported
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Re: High Crime Rate in the UK?
An official report earlier this month stated that the incidence of all types of crime in the UK had fallen over the past few years except for sexual offences and one other offence the nature of which I can't remember off hand. THe largest decreases in the number of reported crimes, apparentlly, were those involving burglary, theft and offences against property.
Cynics naturally dismiss the figures completely, but who's really qualified to argue with official Police or Government reports apart from those who have been actual victims of any kind of crime?
Anyway, to compare crime statistics for any particular location in the UK with those on an overall national level - eg to find out how a rural area in Dorset, in south west England is doing as regards cime or an urban area of Tyneside in north east England compared with Britain as a whole or here in this fair city of Edinburgh then just check out this site:
http://www.upmystreet.com/local/arti...ime-areas.html
Cynics naturally dismiss the figures completely, but who's really qualified to argue with official Police or Government reports apart from those who have been actual victims of any kind of crime?
Anyway, to compare crime statistics for any particular location in the UK with those on an overall national level - eg to find out how a rural area in Dorset, in south west England is doing as regards cime or an urban area of Tyneside in north east England compared with Britain as a whole or here in this fair city of Edinburgh then just check out this site:
http://www.upmystreet.com/local/arti...ime-areas.html
#29
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Re: High Crime Rate in the UK?
This definitely varies depending on where you are. I grew up just outside Stirling in Scotland and was happy to walk around day or night. I was a student in Edinburgh, where I was also happy to walk around the city day or night. However I have been living in Glasgow for nearly 5 years now, and I rarely feel safe anywhere! I had never called the police until I moved here... now I think it averages out at once a year. I know people who have witnessed attempted murders, who have been attacked, who have been broken into, I find the atmosphere here quite disconcerting sometimes. But I also know that is *my* perception, because I have friends who wouldn't give the same view at all. It all comes down to personal experience, how much you are bothered by certain things, and where you are.
#30
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WRONG: the British Crime Survey is a record of victimisation - it records whether or not people have been affected by crime, regardless of whether or not they reported it to the police or if it was eventually solved (by this I assume you mean a conviction was obtained). And the BCS has consistently indicated that most forms of crime in the UK are on a ownward trend.