European alternatives to the UK
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Re: European alternatives to the UK
Don't forget also that Sweden, Britain, Germany (the 3 countries who pay for the EU) Russia and China joined forces against the US with Galileo, the most superior satallite system in the world. The US didn't do itself any favours when it threatened to shoot down Galileo satallites and was promptly told to do one, by Europe, Russia and China.
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Right now it's a tossup between Germany & Sweden. Heads or tails? I can't speak Swedish, but I can understand some of it from listening to Swedish radio. It seems like it'd be a bit easier than German to learn.
I just want a relatively quiet, low key place where Brits are accepted. Unfortunately we have not done ourselves any favours on the continent, in terms of relations with other countries. I wouldn't blame the Germans if many of them didn't like us. There's a lot that I admire about Germany.
I just want a relatively quiet, low key place where Brits are accepted. Unfortunately we have not done ourselves any favours on the continent, in terms of relations with other countries. I wouldn't blame the Germans if many of them didn't like us. There's a lot that I admire about Germany.
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And as much as I've defended the UK on here, coming to this forum and interacting with people who were glad they left rather than were just homesick has made me realise that I don't particularly want to go back there, largely due to the Euroscepticism, lawless youths, binge drinking and the continued erosion of social and moral standards, along with public spending being slashed. I love the UK and miss it, but I'm adaptable enough to live elsewhere in Europe and make that place home quite easily, partly because I was exposed to living in France for a short while growing up and have visited the continent many times, only feeling out of place in the Mediterranean regions, as beautiful as they are. I am pro-EU, pro-monarchy, a socialist and in favour of same sex marriage and I want to live in a non-religious country.
Oh and I need my football. That can be the Championship (Wolves ), the Bundesliga or the Allsvenskan. I love it.
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You had better cross Netherlands off your list then. They have just slashed their welfare payments too.
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You cannot live in Norway or study on Norway, without a visa under their immigration laws. 30 days visit is your limit as a Brit, without a visa.
They do not allow freedom of movement for EU citizens and they will not pay for your healthcare of give you any welfare. Labour allowed them to have EU freedom of movement in the UK.
They do not allow freedom of movement for EU citizens and they will not pay for your healthcare of give you any welfare. Labour allowed them to have EU freedom of movement in the UK.
http://www.udi.no/Norwegian-Directorate-of-Immigration/
Becoming a Norwegian citizen (in due course) would normally require you to formally renounce your existing citizenship.
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I visited Norway recently and although it was scenic it didn't appeal to me as a place to move to. It seemed a bit parochial to me although I didn't get to Oslo.
I once saw a documentary about a woman who'd lived in Copenhagan for years and returned to Cambridge to live near a sibling for her final years. She said that in Denmark she had plenty of friends and people would often check up on her. Once settled back in England she was ignored by her family who lived nearby and was miserable. Too late she realised she'd made the wrong decision to move back home.
I once saw a documentary about a woman who'd lived in Copenhagan for years and returned to Cambridge to live near a sibling for her final years. She said that in Denmark she had plenty of friends and people would often check up on her. Once settled back in England she was ignored by her family who lived nearby and was miserable. Too late she realised she'd made the wrong decision to move back home.
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Not sure where you get your information from but absolutely, Norway is open to EEA citizens:
http://www.udi.no/Norwegian-Directorate-of-Immigration/
http://www.udi.no/Norwegian-Directorate-of-Immigration/
It looks like they have just changed this, but with certain conditions.
If you are a citizen of an EU / EEA / EFTA country, you no longer need to apply for a residence permit, but you must make a registration. You can make a registration online.
Then you visit a police station.
If you live in a district with a service centre for foreign workers you need to meet in person here.
http://www.udi.no/Norwegian-Director...EFTA-citizens/
Interesting about making people visit police stations.
There you go OP, you can add Norway back on your list. Don't forget that Sweden have put forward new (tighter) EUs laws that they want adopted.
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I felt Germans had a stricter personal moral code than UK and when I saw drunken groups in the larger German cities their mood was happy rather than the belligerence I see in UK. In that aspect I score Germany higher than UK.
I felt also that Germany had less general street litter than UK and that prices for equivalent products were somewhat less.
While some Germans volunteered they did not like to see overt displays of their own national flags there were uninvited comments made to me and info signs I saw at historic places criticizing the acts of the British (not the Allies, specifically the British) during WWII.
I felt also that Germany had less general street litter than UK and that prices for equivalent products were somewhat less.
While some Germans volunteered they did not like to see overt displays of their own national flags there were uninvited comments made to me and info signs I saw at historic places criticizing the acts of the British (not the Allies, specifically the British) during WWII.
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Not sure where you get your information from but absolutely, Norway is open to EEA citizens:
http://www.udi.no/Norwegian-Directorate-of-Immigration/
http://www.udi.no/Norwegian-Directorate-of-Immigration/
I even wrote to my MP about it as we had a new government now. I know Labour always like to import their voters, but I thought this was another step too far from the last government. Although I do applaud the Norwegian government for being wise enough to take that stance in the first place
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