Downton Abbey
Jan 7th 2011, 3:18 am
#46
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Re: Downton Abbey
The Daily Telegraph.......oh dear! 
If you think that the Daily Mail is a rubbish rag then the same applies to the Telegraph...it is now little better than your average tabloid...it has declined so much in standards with so much of its content reporting news items of a rather unsavoury sexual nature little different from those appearing in the Sun or the Daily Mirror, or concentrating on trivial statistics about social issues, often connected with the differences between male and female behaviour, often showing the former in a negative light, such is its strong feminist bias.
It has undoubtedly lowered its journalistic and editorial standards and especially with regard to totally unethical and underhand and deceptive reporting procedures lately, so much so that many people in the UK have ditched it in favour of more "respectable" newspapers. The DT really has become little more than a bog standard tabloid now, worth little more than a floor lining for a dog kennel.
If you think that the Daily Mail is a rubbish rag then the same applies to the Telegraph...it is now little better than your average tabloid...it has declined so much in standards with so much of its content reporting news items of a rather unsavoury sexual nature little different from those appearing in the Sun or the Daily Mirror, or concentrating on trivial statistics about social issues, often connected with the differences between male and female behaviour, often showing the former in a negative light, such is its strong feminist bias.It has undoubtedly lowered its journalistic and editorial standards and especially with regard to totally unethical and underhand and deceptive reporting procedures lately, so much so that many people in the UK have ditched it in favour of more "respectable" newspapers. The DT really has become little more than a bog standard tabloid now, worth little more than a floor lining for a dog kennel.
Jan 7th 2011, 3:21 am
#47
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Re: Downton Abbey
I left permanently in 2002: the decline was well under way then (as it was/is in ALL newspapers, to a greater or lesser extent).
It happens over here too, though: when one of the ex-quality rags gets taken over by bastard fuck-face Murdoch, he initiates a race to the bottom (see the WSJ). One of my SILs was a journo for Dow Jones newswire services (part of the WSJ stable) and she said that the decline was immediate and severe as soon as the Aussie bastard got his hands on it.
It happens over here too, though: when one of the ex-quality rags gets taken over by bastard fuck-face Murdoch, he initiates a race to the bottom (see the WSJ). One of my SILs was a journo for Dow Jones newswire services (part of the WSJ stable) and she said that the decline was immediate and severe as soon as the Aussie bastard got his hands on it.
Jan 7th 2011, 4:05 am
#48
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Re: Downton Abbey
The decline isn't in the papers, it is in those who buy the papers. If the old strict journalism still sold newspapers, they would still be produced to the old standards.
Jan 7th 2011, 7:13 am
#49
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Re: Downton Abbey
I think news coverage in general is on the decline, generally being dumbed down, sexed up, broken into bite-size chunks, and overlapping increasingly with "entertainment". Even the BBC breakfast-time news is now much more like a chat show than a news show, and predominated by entertainment "news".
Jan 8th 2011, 1:44 am
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Re: Downton Abbey
I suppose it is also linked to the business model of a newspaper. If the goal is to sell as many as possible, yes, you would dumb it down to the lowest common denominator. I suppose it is expecting too much for a newspaper to publish good journalism and accept that their readership would decline by 50% ...
Jan 8th 2011, 5:54 am
#51
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Re: Downton Abbey
Americas assume any British TV is BBC. I now know why. Its what they are told.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...tml?cmpid=2628
Hard copy heading is "The BBC's stately 'Dowton Abbey' comes to PBS"
"If you can make room in your life for yet another opulent BBC family saga, complete with bone-china tea cups and ladies' maids, the PBS series "Masterpiece" has two on the way."
("Upstairs Downstairs" and "Downton Abbey")
Article also passes on the 8 hours to 6 edit story, because PBS think Americans are not up to getting the story.
"PBS thought we weren't quite up to getting the full story. Two hours were cut from the popular British version of the series because, as reported by London newspapers, PBS execs thought the entail was too foreign a concept for U.S. viewers so they winnowed down the references to it."
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...tml?cmpid=2628
Hard copy heading is "The BBC's stately 'Dowton Abbey' comes to PBS"
"If you can make room in your life for yet another opulent BBC family saga, complete with bone-china tea cups and ladies' maids, the PBS series "Masterpiece" has two on the way."
("Upstairs Downstairs" and "Downton Abbey")
Article also passes on the 8 hours to 6 edit story, because PBS think Americans are not up to getting the story.
"PBS thought we weren't quite up to getting the full story. Two hours were cut from the popular British version of the series because, as reported by London newspapers, PBS execs thought the entail was too foreign a concept for U.S. viewers so they winnowed down the references to it."
Last edited by kimilseung; Jan 8th 2011 at 6:26 am.
Apr 3rd 2011, 1:47 pm
#52
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Re: Downton Abbey
There is dialogue that appeared in the PBS broadcasts that does not appear in the PBS "Original UK Version" DVD or in the iTunes download. It's not whole scenes, but it is enough to be annoying. I am infuriated by the perception that anyone living in North American is too dense to recall what they've heard or has too short an attention span to watch the whole version.
Maybe someday there will be a "director's cut" sort of thing released and we can see all the dialogue. Love the show and want to soak up every line.
Maybe someday there will be a "director's cut" sort of thing released and we can see all the dialogue. Love the show and want to soak up every line.
