Don

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...06/ixhome.html
2.3 million abandon London to move south
(Filed: 06/06/2005)

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Don

London is the new Beirut.

You want to get robbed/ spat on/ cheated/ disappointed/ threatened/ mugged?

Go to London.

Forget the Olympics until London can control crime a bit better.

Merlot

Sounds like Sydney in places

NC Penguin

Don,

Has any of the above ever happened to you or someone you know in London? What about in Beirut?

I don't think London is that much different in terms of crimes to any international city of a similar size or population.



NC Penguin

ImHere

Or if you want to get shot at, raped, assualted, car jacked and sold dugs move to Miami. At least you can be a victim of crime in the sun then eh?

Is it possible - shock horror - that every city in the world has crime and an undesirable element? Surely not?!

Geordie George

Dare you to go and say that in the Aus forum, M!!!

Shock! Horror! City has crime and some dodgy areas, just like every other place on the planet.

GG

Megalania

Dicken's London

Un-Co

Must have been a slow news day! I was born and brought up in London and although I don't live there anymore (and probably won't live there again) I still have a lot of affection for the place. As has been said before - crime happens in any big city. I haven't felt any safer in any city I've lived in or visited than I have in London. I may have been lucky but the sum total of the crime I experienced in 26 years living there was being burgled when I was 11 and one pickpocketing incident. This kind of article is just sensationalised to sell papers.

Pants

Ohh yes M sure does....but surely it is the land of milk and honey !!!and London's street are paved with gold...!!! :scared:

BAY

As you say you don't live in London anymore. I do. Not sure how long since you left London but it is NOT a safe city to live in. Gun crime, knife crime, anti social behaviour, streets covered in litter , etc. etc. are common place.
There has been a 9% decline in the population of London in the last 10 years as people move out of London. This statistic speaks volumes for what sort of city London is.

Un-Co

Hi Bay,
I wasn't suggesting London was safe - just that it's no worse than any other city of it's size. I moved away nearly 3 years ago but have spent months at a time back there since, my Mum, best friends and other family members are all still there. I don't idealise it - I'm one of the 9% who've left! But these doom and gloom stories are written to sell papers and are not news!

nun

Yeah I hear from reliable sources (uncorroborated rumour) that everyone now
wears "hoodies" and if you step outside of your door they fall on you and
bite you in the neck and turn you into a Chav and you must wear the hoodie
at all times and only come out at night in city centers and hang around outside
of really nasty night clubs.

All this crime crap is just New Labour trying to take over the "tough on crime" thing
from the Tories and create a culture of paranoia. Same goes for terrorism and ID cards

Don

Up to a certain point you're right.

On the other hand it is readily demonstrated that most migrants to UK will first head for London.

In the last ten years perhaps two million foreigners have made their permanent home in the UK.

Perhaps it is this influx of non-Brit peoples that disconcerts the original London residents?

London is very multicultural these days and has more than its fair share of foreign mafia/ criminal types.

cabritpop

The article you posted states that people are leaving London it is not indicative of why people are leaving except it mentions the high cost of housing,that's old news.

Don

So why do you think so many Londoners want out?

I could see it as a teenager. I swore that I would never work in this disgusting, dirty city with its usual long commutes, despite the fact that money would be better there.

Londoners, they blow their noses and it's black stuff that comes out. Disgustingly dirty city.

Now it has got a lot worse with the terrible crime esp muggings by swarthy Albanians and Bulgarian mafiosi.