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Old Sep 1st 2008, 5:45 am
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It's me again, I have learned a lot from these threads, and for that I thank you. But I have one last question that I am unclear about... Many countries do not recognize the act of renouncing their citizenship as part of US naturalization. Does the UK recognise this act of renoucing citizenship ....or not? Thanks, Chris
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Originally Posted by ChrisMc
It's me again, I have learned a lot from these threads, and for that I thank you. But I have one last question that I am unclear about... Many countries do not recognize the act of renouncing their citizenship as part of US naturalization. Does the UK recognise this act of renoucing citizenship ....or not? Thanks, Chris
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Originally Posted by ChrisMc
It's me again, I have learned a lot from these threads, and for that I thank you. But I have one last question that I am unclear about... Many countries do not recognize the act of renouncing their citizenship as part of US naturalization. Does the UK recognise this act of renoucing citizenship ....or not? Thanks, Chris
Not -- if you want to renounce it, you need to go in front of a British consular office and do it. After paying the fee, of course. Why anyone would choose to is beyond me though.
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Default Re: Does the UK recognise the act of renoucing a persons citizenship?

Originally Posted by ChrisMc
It's me again, I have learned a lot from these threads, and for that I thank you. But I have one last question that I am unclear about... Many countries do not recognize the act of renouncing their citizenship as part of US naturalization. Does the UK recognise this act of renoucing citizenship ....or not? Thanks, Chris
Why don't you go to the wiki here (top of the page) and read the articles about citizenship. There is a great FAQ ... Rich Wales' Dual Citizenship FAQ ... and an article about the pros and cons of dual citz and a lot of info on the how-tos.
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Default Re: Does the UK recognise the act of renoucing a persons citizenship?

I will read the Wiki - thanks!

I do not want to renounce any connection I have with UK...that's my concern. I guess I would like the best of both worlds..to live in USA and to have the possibility to go back to UK without any problems if anything unforeseen happens.

I have held a Green Card for 3 years - it expires in 2015 but last week when I returned to USA from Europe, Customs and Immigration asked me why I still have a Green Card and not a US citizenship. At that point I was unaware (ignorant) that I could apply after 3 years.

Since then I learned a lot, and...saved $80 by reading this web page and the threads! :-)
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I will read the Wiki - thanks!

I do not want to renounce any connection I have with UK...that's my concern. I guess I would like the best of both worlds..to live in USA and to have the possibility to go back to UK without any problems if anything unforeseen happens.

I have held a Green Card for 3 years - it expires in 2015 but last week when I returned to USA from Europe, Customs and Immigration asked me why I still have a Green Card and not a US citizenship. At that point I was unaware (ignorant) that I could apply after 3 years.

Since then I learned a lot, and...saved $80 by reading this web page and the threads! :-)
Are you married to a US citizen?

If so, the three year waiver applies to you. If not, you wait five years as a PR.

In reply to your other thread.. one way you can tell if a website is 'official' or not is the ending ".gov". Notice that the bogus site you found ended in .org.

Anyway, there's plenty of dualies here, and you don't have to give up a thing. Just the one little tattoo and procedure.. most of it is done under anesthetic.

The Rich Wales FAQ should answer the concerns you've raised.
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Lose the tattoo??

Yes I am married to a US citizen....and trying to sell it to him that suet pudding, treacle pudding and haggis are good! (not togther though...but good)
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Lose the tattoo??

Yes I am married to a US citizen....and trying to sell it to him that suet pudding, treacle pudding and haggis are good! (not togther though...but good)
Good luck with that!
I think you'll have an easier time with the naturalization application.
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Default Re: Does the UK recognise the act of renoucing a persons citizenship?

Originally Posted by ChrisMc
Does the UK recognise this act of renoucing citizenship ....or not?
As with all things immigration, terminology is *everything*. When you take the US Oath of Allegiance, you do not renounce your former citizenship... you renounce your former allegiance! Big, big difference between the two. Besides, US oaths are *not* binding on any other country... so, for those countries that recognize dual citizenship, they don't care if you become a USC. They will still treat you as one of their own!

Many of us here are dual UK/US citizens - complete with two passports! Some of us, including me, are citizens of 3 countries... some even more! The important thing to remember is that each country will treat you *only* as a citizen of that country.

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Not -- if you want to renounce it, you need to go in front of a British consular office and do it. After paying the fee, of course. Why anyone would choose to is beyond me though.
Wait until the UK starts taxing expatriates...
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Wait until the UK starts taxing expatriates...
Brits have a history of refusing to pay unfair taxes -- despite Ynaks thinking this is their preserve. I left the UK around the time of the poll tax....and they never had a penny off me.
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Default Re: Does the UK recognise the act of renoucing a persons citizenship?

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......last week when I returned to USA from Europe, Customs and Immigration asked me why I still have a Green Card and not a US citizenship........
was this a jokingly asked question or a serious imiigration officer type question?

If the latter, I hope you told him to go mind his own.......
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Default Re: Does the UK recognise the act of renoucing a persons citizenship?

I had my doubts he was serious, but was not sure, so I took it as a serious immigration officer type question..
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Default Re: Does the UK recognise the act of renoucing a persons citizenship?

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I had my doubts he was serious, but was not sure, so I took it as a serious immigration officer type question..
In that case the appropriate answer would be "Because I have never applied for naturalization".
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Some border guards are perfectly fine people who are just doing their jobs. Others take their duty to protect the homeland as a sacred duty that can be entrusted to no one but themselves. As part of the zealotry, some of them DO take it on themselves to challenge (a) your reasons for not yet having naturalized, (b) your choice of attorneys, (c) the places you have visited and the reasons for your visit, and other sundry topics. Even as a US citizen, I always steer clear of such officers, giving them no reason to focus on me.

I remind clients that border guards are like snakes. Some are very good for protecting the environment, for eating pests, and for ecological balance. Some are poisonous. And unless you're a herpetologist, YOU cannot tell the difference and you should not try. Just steer clear and do nothing to incite the creature.

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