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Piff Poff Oct 25th 2022 1:35 pm

Dialysis/Transplant
 
Hi all,

We (husband) were planning on moving back to the UK (I am still advocating for Ontario, though not very loudly anymore) when my husband turned 60, so in 3 years.

A few weeks ago we found out he will need dialysis in the very near future and ultimately a new kidney.

Obviously this has thrown a huge spanner in the works. Has anyone moved back as a dialysis patient? Is this possible? The earliest we could think about moving back would still be 60 as his private pension would be accessible by then.

the thought of having to stay in Alberta for the rest of my life is horrifying.

Piff Poff Nov 23rd 2022 12:55 pm

re: Dialysis/Transplant
 
Just bumping.

Dialysis started today. Will we ever be able to move back now hubby has a medical condition?

Deeny Nov 23rd 2022 1:55 pm

re: Dialysis/Transplant
 
Hi Piff Poff,

I’m sorry you are having such a difficult time, moving back is daunting without added worries. I was a nurse before leaving for Canada but I’m now 11 years out of date. The following links may be a start and you could also contact the Dialysis Unit for the local hospital if you have an idea where you will returning to. If not, just try any as they may be able to point you in the right direction.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/using-th...live-in-the-uk

https://www.gov.uk/browse/benefits/disability

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/returning-to-the-uk

Hopefully someone more current will be able to help more.

Regards,

D.

Piff Poff Nov 24th 2022 9:41 am

re: Dialysis/Transplant
 
Thank you so much for pointing me in the right direction. Very appreciated.

Jolly Good Nov 24th 2022 12:05 pm

re: Dialysis/Transplant
 

Originally Posted by Piff Poff (Post 13156666)
Thank you so much for pointing me in the right direction. Very appreciated.

Addenbrooks Hospital in Cambridge have an excellent dialysis center if you had considered moving to that area. I have one family member that has used this facility and another family member that has volunteered for the local Kidney Association Charity for over 40 years raising money to help dialysis patients with transport, equipment and other needs.

Good luck to you both. It will be a learning curve but there seems to be a lot of support in the UK for dialysis patients x

brits1 Nov 24th 2022 11:53 pm

re: Dialysis/Transplant
 

Originally Posted by Piff Poff (Post 13156666)
Thank you so much for pointing me in the right direction. Very appreciated.

My OH had a few different clinic appointments and an operation last year and in each occasions he was asked had we been resident in the UK for …..cannot remember the number of years by that time my husband had been so all was okay but a friend who returned from NZ and had been in the UK only for a few months was not so successful with a knee replacement, not sure if it has changed (it changes all the time here) good luck and I hope all goes well with your OH treatment be it here or in Canada I know how stressful it can be (went through this with my DD) x

Pulaski Nov 25th 2022 3:37 am

re: Dialysis/Transplant
 
I don't know how long between sessions your husband can go, but if you're taking a trip back to the UK there is a whole branch of dialysis scheduling for people on holiday, which would give you the opportunity to check things out "on the ground" for yourselves. I don't see anything about visitors from outside the UK, but this page has a lot of contact information including email addresses.

jjmb Nov 26th 2022 4:41 am

re: Dialysis/Transplant
 
These links might help:

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/using-th...live-in-the-uk

https://www.ageuk.org.uk/information...broad-heading/

My Mum returned to the UK from France in 2015 when she was basically dying from a condition called MSA and she was bedridden. We got her into a private nursing home and she was entitled to NHS care immediately. Benefits were a bit slower and as she had excess savings, they had to be used before they would contribute to her nursing home costs (same as any other UK citizen). About 9 months after she returned to the UK, my sister secured a local authority nursing home place nearer her house. By then she was eligible for all benefits. My father also returned home sometime before Mum, as he had a stroke. He was eligible for all the benefits he was entitled to almost immediately. It just takes a while to learn how the system works.

Hopefully, as you have 3 yrs to plan, the kidney transplant will take place before you move.

Piff Poff Nov 28th 2022 2:22 pm

re: Dialysis/Transplant
 

Originally Posted by Jolly Good (Post 13156677)
Addenbrooks Hospital in Cambridge have an excellent dialysis center if you had considered moving to that area. I have one family member that has used this facility and another family member that has volunteered for the local Kidney Association Charity for over 40 years raising money to help dialysis patients with transport, equipment and other needs.

Good luck to you both. It will be a learning curve but there seems to be a lot of support in the UK for dialysis patients x

Very familiar with Addenbrookes, grew up 7 miles away from Cambridge. Looking at the fenlands/Norwich areas. Seems to be more support in the UK than in Alberta.

Thank you.


Originally Posted by brits1 (Post 13156739)
My OH had a few different clinic appointments and an operation last year and in each occasions he was asked had we been resident in the UK for …..cannot remember the number of years by that time my husband had been so all was okay but a friend who returned from NZ and had been in the UK only for a few months was not so successful with a knee replacement, not sure if it has changed (it changes all the time here) good luck and I hope all goes well with your OH treatment be it here or in Canada I know how stressful it can be (went through this with my DD) x

Thank you.


Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 13156790)
I don't know how long between sessions your husband can go, but if you're taking a trip back to the UK there is a whole branch of dialysis scheduling for people on holiday, which would give you the opportunity to check things out "on the ground" for yourselves. I don't see anything about visitors from outside the UK, but this page has a lot of contact information including email addresses.

Thank you. Apparently our social worker can help with vacations. So maybe a trip back to explore options is on the cards.


Originally Posted by jjmb (Post 13156947)
These links might help:

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/using-th...live-in-the-uk

https://www.ageuk.org.uk/information...broad-heading/

My Mum returned to the UK from France in 2015 when she was basically dying from a condition called MSA and she was bedridden. We got her into a private nursing home and she was entitled to NHS care immediately. Benefits were a bit slower and as she had excess savings, they had to be used before they would contribute to her nursing home costs (same as any other UK citizen). About 9 months after she returned to the UK, my sister secured a local authority nursing home place nearer her house. By then she was eligible for all benefits. My father also returned home sometime before Mum, as he had a stroke. He was eligible for all the benefits he was entitled to almost immediately. It just takes a while to learn how the system works.

Hopefully, as you have 3 yrs to plan, the kidney transplant will take place before you move.

It's on average 6 years for a transplant unless you have a living donor (to be explored). IF he chooses to go that route. It's not a cure.

Thank you.

bats Nov 30th 2022 12:11 pm

re: Dialysis/Transplant
 

Originally Posted by brits1 (Post 13156739)
My OH had a few different clinic appointments and an operation last year and in each occasions he was asked had we been resident in the UK for …..cannot remember the number of years by that time my husband had been so all was okay but a friend who returned from NZ and had been in the UK only for a few months was not so successful with a knee replacement, not sure if it has changed (it changes all the time here) good luck and I hope all goes well with your OH treatment be it here or in Canada I know how stressful it can be (went through this with my DD) x

the length of time you have been resident is irrelevant and that question should not have been asked. You go on the wait list like anyone else and are triaged according to need,

durham_lad Nov 30th 2022 7:03 pm

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Originally Posted by bats (Post 13157610)
the length of time you have been resident is irrelevant and that question should not have been asked. You go on the wait list like anyone else and are triaged according to need,

I agree, it is only current residence that should be relevant. When I went to hospital shortly after returning to England I was asked ahead of time to bring in a utility bill to prove I was resident, not how long I had lived here. I also had to bring in proof I that was eligible to live in the UK such as a passport. Once I had registered as a new patient I was not asked again on future appointments or before my surgery.

brits1 Dec 1st 2022 2:54 am

re: Dialysis/Transplant
 

Originally Posted by bats (Post 13157610)
the length of time you have been resident is irrelevant and that question should not have been asked. You go on the wait list like anyone else and are triaged according to need,

And this is where the the NHS suffers, I am all for people who use the NHS if they have paid into the system over a number of years or exempt from doing so through illness or disability but it is just not sustainable when anyone can use it and yes that means even if your born here and left years ago. The NHS was originally set up to be a free (which it’s not anyway for most we pay through our taxes) system for the UK, you could say straight this at first was an excellent way of thinking as most people had to work “back in the day” as welfare was strictly adhered to but alas with the social benefit system being routinely abused by people there are a lot of people who use the NHS who have never/hardly paid into the system when they really should/could be doing so hence one of the main reasons the NHS is in the “state” it is in. In my opinion the NHS needs a huge overhaul but various governments are afraid to act.

shelley748 Dec 1st 2022 6:32 am

re: Dialysis/Transplant
 
How is hubby doing piff poff?

Piff Poff Dec 1st 2022 10:15 am

re: Dialysis/Transplant
 

Originally Posted by brits1 (Post 13157739)
And this is where the the NHS suffers, I am all for people who use the NHS if they have paid into the system over a number of years or exempt from doing so through illness or disability but it is just not sustainable when anyone can use it and yes that means even if your born here and left years ago. The NHS was originally set up to be a free (which it’s not anyway for most we pay through our taxes) system for the UK, you could say straight this at first was an excellent way of thinking as most people had to work “back in the day” as welfare was strictly adhered to but alas with the social benefit system being routinely abused by people there are a lot of people who use the NHS who have never/hardly paid into the system when they really should/could be doing so hence one of the main reasons the NHS is in the “state” it is in. In my opinion the NHS needs a huge overhaul but various governments are afraid to act.

Just for the record, we are up to date on our National Insurance contributions.

Piff Poff Dec 1st 2022 10:18 am

re: Dialysis/Transplant
 

Originally Posted by shelley748 (Post 13157769)
How is hubby doing piff poff?

It's hit him hard. It's going to be a tough haul. We keep being told he will start to feel better. He is is struggling to come to terms with maybe never working again.

Thank you for asking.


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