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babsi Apr 14th 2009 8:17 am

A depressing topic...
 
If you are given say months to live and you want to return home to die are you able to do so, I mean in terms of receiving NHS treatment.

Jay Bird Apr 14th 2009 8:54 am

Re: A depressing topic...
 

Originally Posted by babsi (Post 7480107)
If you are given say months to live and you want to return home to die are you able to do so, I mean in terms of receiving NHS treatment.

Oh, I hope this doesn't apply to you! However, as you've posed the question......why would the NHS or anyone connected with it need to know the prognosis? If you're a returning citizen, intending to take up residency...regardless of how long......it shouldn't matter, should it?

babsi Apr 14th 2009 8:57 am

Re: A depressing topic...
 
No, it's not me. Sometimes I just have weird thoughts.

But if you have cancer you still need treatment though don't you??

Jay Bird Apr 14th 2009 9:05 am

Re: A depressing topic...
 

Originally Posted by babsi (Post 7480236)
No, it's not me. Sometimes I just have weird thoughts.

But if you have cancer you still need treatment though don't you??

Yes, of course.....but my point is, would the prognosis....ie the fact that the illness is terminal, need to be disclosed immediately? As a returning resident NHS treatment is available from the day you take up residence, so I cannot see treatment being refused.

And if you don't mind my saying so........that IS a weird thought! :blink:

ann m Apr 14th 2009 9:53 am

Re: A depressing topic...
 
I think this would come under the same headings as the many NHS type discussions. If you are coming home and are taking up residency in the UK, then you should qualify for all and any treatments available.

I think it would just be a case of looking like you are a resident, so an address, bank account, utility bills etc, referral from a GP - the usual stuff really.

In some cases the practicalities might be to move in with a family member if circumstances are that bad - but even so, once you are resident in the UK, yes, come home to die.

Yes, a sad topic and I truly hope this does not come about babsi :(:huh:

Eastend Girl Apr 15th 2009 4:33 pm

Re: A depressing topic...
 
It is a weird thought but it's one I've had too; I hate the thought of dying here!

fred uk Apr 15th 2009 10:51 pm

Re: A depressing topic...
 

Originally Posted by Eastend Girl (Post 7484382)
It is a weird thought but it's one I've had too; I hate the thought of dying here!

It's also morbid but i expect to snuff it here in Indonesia and end up in the graveyard behind the house.
I rather hope it will be quite a long time before I peg it. I'm having far too much fun.

OrkneytoPortugal Apr 17th 2009 1:30 am

Re: A depressing topic...
 
No way do I want to end up in a Portuguese cemetry!
Burn me please, and sprinkle my ashes on the Surrey hills!! :)

Jay Bird Apr 17th 2009 2:26 am

Re: A depressing topic...
 

Originally Posted by Eastend Girl (Post 7484382)
It is a weird thought but it's one I've had too; I hate the thought of dying here!

I agree, it is a weird thought........I said to my OH when we lived in Canada that I dreaded the thought of living out my life over there and not coming home. It was also the thought of being over there when my already aged parents are no longer around....I wanted to be here for however long they are.

Whilst we are speaking of such things.....before we came over here (back to the UK) last March to make sure we wanted to come home, we had our wills made out. I'm now wondering if Ontario wills are legal in the UK. I know this has been touched on before, but it was more a question of whether a UK will is valid in Canada. From what little I do know, each province has different laws etc, meaning that a will might not be valid from one province to another............so is an Ontario will valid in the UK? I wonder if there's anyone out there who can shed light on this?


Oh - and OrkneytoPortugal........I now live in the Surrey hills, near Haslemere, and I have to agree.......it is a spectacular place to live...........and die when the time comes

dunroving Apr 17th 2009 3:02 am

Re: A depressing topic...
 

Originally Posted by Jay Bird (Post 7488081)
I agree, it is a weird thought........I said to my OH when we lived in Canada that I dreaded the thought of living out my life over there and not coming home. It was also the thought of being over there when my already aged parents are no longer around....I wanted to be here for however long they are.

Whilst we are speaking of such things.....before we came over here (back to the UK) last March to make sure we wanted to come home, we had our wills made out. I'm now wondering if Ontario wills are legal in the UK. I know this has been touched on before, but it was more a question of whether a UK will is valid in Canada. From what little I do know, each province has different laws etc, meaning that a will might not be valid from one province to another............so is an Ontario will valid in the UK? I wonder if there's anyone out there who can shed light on this.

Oh - and OrkneytoPortugal........I now live in the Surrey hills, near Haslemere, and I have to agree.......it is a spectacular place to live...........and die when the time comes

Not sure about Canada, but when this has arisen in the US forum, the answer is usually that you need wills made out for both countries.

Dave_Was Apr 17th 2009 4:52 am

Re: A depressing topic...
 

Originally Posted by babsi (Post 7480107)
If you are given say months to live and you want to return home to die are you able to do so, I mean in terms of receiving NHS treatment.

My understanding is that as long as you can show that you are returning permanently, ie not just in the UK for a visit, you're entitled to all the the NHS has to offer.

I've had similar thoughts and what I would do. To be honest, I'd be jumping on the plane and flying back to the UK. More down to the fact most of my family is in the UK, but also now deep down I know it will always be home.

Bevm Apr 17th 2009 8:19 am

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My understanding -- but don't take it as gospel, is that the need to have a will for where you're living is because of differences in the law. The basics -- who gets the money, who gets to be the kids' guardians etc -- will usually hold up, because that's what it's said, and it's properly signed etc.

But, it could end up with extra legal fees because of ways it differs from local style. So better to get the new one, but your wishes from the old one will probably hold up in the end.

Bev

Fleaflyfloflum Apr 17th 2009 8:23 am

Re: A depressing topic...
 

Originally Posted by babsi (Post 7480107)
If you are given say months to live and you want to return home to die are you able to do so, I mean in terms of receiving NHS treatment.

Just for your peace of mind, I nearly DID die here last year!! I came back to start a job in London after being away for 8yrs. One week after i got back I got pneumonia and was in the ICU for a while, so, i can confirm you would be looked after regardless how long you are gone. :)


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