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Choice of stopovers on return flight?

Old Apr 27th 2004, 5:16 am
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Originally posted by estarriol
I just booked my flight, and decided to spend 3 days in Hong Kong on the way back - I'm really looking forward to that. Many thanks for the help and recommendations, folks.

I need to book somewhere to stay on the nights of 8th - 10th May (I'm leaving late on 11th). Can anyone recommend a hotel that is in an interesting area, decent and not too expensive?
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Mate,

There are hundreds of hotels here in Hong Kong, but I'll recommend the following one for you:

South Pacific Hotel (Tel: 852-2572 3838), this hotel is in a great location, basically in the middle of Causeway Bay, which is close to all the shops (you shouldn't get ripped-off here).

http://www.southpacifichotel.com.hk/

The rates for early May are about HK $650 per-night plus 13%, (service charge and tax), which to me & you = 53 Quid per-night!

The hotel is clean, tidy very convenient but has quite small rooms, but as you only sleep there......who cares.

I'd be happy to sugguest some places to visit whist you are in town!

Cheers.
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Old May 9th 2004, 4:13 am
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OK, so I'm in Hong Kong now - arrived late last night. First impressions coming down over the city to land, and on the Airport Express train:-

- Wow, it's a proper real city (as a Londoner, a real city bustles and is crowded and big and lit up and beautiful - Melbourne never did this for me).

- It's very modern, reminds me of what being in a truly modern country is like so far. Other than the people seeming rather brusque, it's one of the most civilised and cleanest countries I've visited.

- My hotel room is fantastic. I went for the Renaissance Harbour View Hotel in the end because I got a great deal online, and let me tell you, the view from a 14th floor Harbour View room is breathtaking. Due to my gf having the digital camera as part of our breakup, I don't actually have anything to take photos with, so (and with the recommendation of my HK chinese mate) I'm going to make shopping my first day here and see if I can get a good deal on a decent digital camera. The hotel room is awesome, proper sized bath, all the luxuries, it even has broadband access for a reasonable charge right here in the room, hence my web access. If you can get a good deal, this looks to be a wonderful hotel. I'll do a more complete report once I've had a chance to see the full facilities.

- It seems to be a noon to past midnight sort of place, a lot of things seem to happen in the evening, which is great, because I'm a night owl. My kinda town...

Right, I'm off shopping! I'll check back tonight if I get a chance.
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Originally posted by estarriol
OK, so I'm in Hong Kong now - arrived late last night. First impressions coming down over the city to land, and on the Airport Express train:-

- Wow, it's a proper real city (as a Londoner, a real city bustles and is crowded and big and lit up and beautiful - Melbourne never did this for me).

- It's very modern, reminds me of what being in a truly modern country is like so far. Other than the people seeming rather brusque, it's one of the most civilised and cleanest countries I've visited.

- My hotel room is fantastic. I went for the Renaissance Harbour View Hotel in the end because I got a great deal online, and let me tell you, the view from a 14th floor Harbour View room is breathtaking. Due to my gf having the digital camera as part of our breakup, I don't actually have anything to take photos with, so (and with the recommendation of my HK chinese mate) I'm going to make shopping my first day here and see if I can get a good deal on a decent digital camera. The hotel room is awesome, proper sized bath, all the luxuries, it even has broadband access for a reasonable charge right here in the room, hence my web access. If you can get a good deal, this looks to be a wonderful hotel. I'll do a more complete report once I've had a chance to see the full facilities.

- It seems to be a noon to past midnight sort of place, a lot of things seem to happen in the evening, which is great, because I'm a night owl. My kinda town...

Right, I'm off shopping! I'll check back tonight if I get a chance.
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Old May 9th 2004, 1:24 pm
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A really good post estarriol

Straight from the heart.

At least you tried it.

Here's wishing you the best of luck for your future, wherever that might be

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Old May 10th 2004, 4:48 pm
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I would not really recommend Singapore, except for a very short stopover and/or if shopping and eating out are all you want to do.

I know it's not one of the stopovers you listed, but you may want to think about Kuala Lumpur. It's a lot more colourful than Singapore, lots more to see, and is a hell of a lot cheaper.
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Old May 11th 2004, 5:33 am
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Originally posted by ThemeOne
I would not really recommend Singapore, except for a very short stopover and/or if shopping and eating out are all you want to do.

I know it's not one of the stopovers you listed, but you may want to think about Kuala Lumpur. It's a lot more colourful than Singapore, lots more to see, and is a hell of a lot cheaper.
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I would also recommend KL, I was there in March just before the Grand Pix.

Like you say, wonderful place, very cheap, good food and nice people!

I think Malaysia Airlines would also be a bit cheaper from Oz to the Uk than say, Singapore Airlines of Cathay et al.

Cheers.
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What a great post. We too are thinking of going via HK so thanks for all the valuable advice everyone!

estarriol I could not agree more with what you posted (similar to our thoughts). I had an arguement with my boss a few wks back as he said there were not sandy nice beaches in the whole of northern Europe! As you say, they run the place down and they don't know it!

As for the flag-about time they got their own one really instead of pinching ours!



Originally posted by estarriol
"If you only have 2 days, HK is the place to get it all!

You can do some shopping, (be careful though), see a bit of culture and see this wonderful city."

Sounds good, I would love to see Hong Kong (that goes for Dubai too, admittedly...). Why do I have to be careful whilst shopping? What will I get the best bargains on compared to the UK?

"BTW......why are you leaving Oz?"

There's a long list, it's all very subjective, but it comes down to loving the UK and having more there than I do here. I thought I was unhappy in the UK but I was wrong, I love the UK and I was just unhappy full stop at the time. That, and I split up with my gf, which is the main reason I was here in the first place.

Here's the list though, since you asked. I'd ask those who find this offensive to remember that this is just a personal opinion, and I really do know that Australia is great for many people:-

Mostly, I'm bored in Australia. I find it to be very bland in a cultural sense. It's sport-obsessed, and I don't like team sports. Any hobby other than sport is marginal. I love culture and history, and there's not much here, variations in geography is not culture. I love travel, and it's actually very expensive here, even internally, Europe is a goldmine of culture and it's so cheap to see it from the UK.

I find the attitudes to be extremely parochial, self-absorbed without being self-analytical (a terrible mixture IMO), and unwelcoming to foreigners. Here as an Englishman, I am a foreigner and somehow deserve less, in the UK my Australian girlfriend was not considered 'foreign' at all. I would hate to be non-caucasian here.

It's too hot, too sunny, too humid, not windy enough and has too little variation in weather. In my experience, the most enjoyable weather is when the weather is changing - cool nights on a hot summer's day, the beautiful days in spring and autumn when it is sunny, but with a cool breeze. They are rare here.

There is a quality to the air on a spring morning in the UK that is wonderful beyond my capacity to express in words. It does not exist here. I like being properly cold sometimes. I like huddling inside a warm coat, trudging through snow. It's a beautiful experience to me.

I have never understood why people are happy when it's 38 degrees and sweating from every pore. I am not. I like to be able to breathe without difficulty, to not have to stay indoors because it's too hot. It's never too cold to keep me indoors in England, I just put a coat on. I don't like being beseiged by flies in the summer, I hate having to wave them away from my face all the time.

The TV is awful, and reception is terrible in some areas. Internet access is expensive and unreliable, and most of it is metered!

The small specialised shops here are good, as good as any in the UK, but the supermarkets and other generalised stores are awful. I never thought I'd long for Sainsbury's and Tesco's, but I do.

I resent being treated like a criminal when I pop into a shop on my way home from work, carrying a rucksack. It will be nice to be able to shop without being suspected of being a thief every time I walk out carrying any sort of bag. Saying "Hi how are you" at the checkout is the most superficial form of manners. Don't accuse me of being a thief and I'll feel much better, thank you.

The quality of driving here is terrible, and driving manners here are worse. Only about half of drivers out there seem to think using indicators when turning is a good idea, and almost nobody will let you into a lane in front of them. I've almost crashed because of that stubbornness.

I am bored of being told how much better than England Australia is, and how it's never warm in England, by people who have never been there. I dislike getting funny looks when I try to tell people that actually we have really great summers, or that there is actually anything good about England at all, or how something somewhere else is done in a way that may be better than how it's done in Aus.

I find the humour in the main to be too aggressive and very crude. I miss self-deprecating humour, or any humour that doesn't involve taking the piss out of someone. Taking the piss definitely has it's place, but it's not the be-all-and-end-all of humour and sometimes people feel sensitive about something and taking the piss out of them about it is not the best way to do things.

The rest of the world has value. Australia is not the best place in the world by default. Your flag does not have to be everywhere. You don't have to use the word "Australians" when you could have just said "people". Australian products are not necessarily better. It's OK to be a part of the rest of the world, or know something about it.

There are things that I like about Australia, things that I will miss, but as you can see, there aren't many and there are many, many things I love about England. Some English people would and do love Australia, some can't stand it.

Sorry for the rant!
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