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chasing the dream creates superficial happiness

Old Jul 23rd 2007, 10:13 pm
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Originally Posted by LouiseD
Funny but I kind of get where Pete is coming from here.

I can totally see why people miss family, especially sons and daughters, mums and dads but I can also understand Petes views on being independent.

Even close family can let you down. Iv'e been very let down by family who I thought cared about us, but in truth they only ever really cared about themselves, so we've built a barrier round ourselves now.

It can make you feel differently when you've been hurt by people.
Flippin heck someone agreeing with me

Thanks young lady
karma for you i dont get that happen in this forum very often ..
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Old Jul 23rd 2007, 10:15 pm
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Default Re: chasing the dream creates superficial happiness

Originally Posted by Big Pete
Flippin heck someone agreeing with me

Thanks young lady
karma for you i dont get that happen in this forum very often ..
there you go BP...'you've got a friend' as the old Rod Stewart song says
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Old Jul 23rd 2007, 10:28 pm
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there you go BP...'you've got a friend' as the old Rod Stewart song says
was James Taylor wasnt it ?

but it dont matter ..
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Old Jul 23rd 2007, 10:33 pm
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Originally Posted by Big Pete
was James Taylor wasnt it ?

but it dont matter ..
you could be right there BP, wow twas a long time ago....i think you are, now see i'm the second one that's agreeing with you today...must be your lucky day
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Old Jul 23rd 2007, 10:36 pm
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Originally Posted by TruBrit
you could be right there BP, wow twas a long time ago....i think you are, now see i'm the second one that's agreeing with you today...must be your lucky day
heck worrying isnt it ..
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Old Jul 23rd 2007, 10:42 pm
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Originally Posted by Big Pete
heck worrying isnt it ..

Yes it is Thats three in a row
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Old Jul 23rd 2007, 10:44 pm
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Originally Posted by dreamcatcher
Yes it is Thats three in a row
No it is four, I did send him some karma
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Old Jul 24th 2007, 3:28 am
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Default Re: chasing the dream creates superficial happiness

Originally Posted by Big Pete
Well you may be , but lots dont run there life through family and friends , some make new friends and accept family distance , unless you need a cuddle before bed why worry over family ?

Would the same rule apply if say you had family and friends who were living in a desert and had no water to drink hardly and was poor , surely you should take them with you ?
Big Pete...Sue's told you before not to post on this forum unless you have something positive to add.
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Default Re: chasing the dream creates superficial happiness

Originally Posted by Big Pete
Well yes i think i am qualified , reasons like hate the heat hate the way the country is run and the people etc etc, i can understand but just for family and friends nahh sorry cant get me head round that one

Not in this day and age anyways
You see and thats the only reason I do understand. I don't understand the other crap, missing tescos and old buildings doesn't cut it with me but having a cuppa with your Mum would get my vote every time.
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Old Jul 24th 2007, 5:11 am
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Big Pete...Sue's told you before not to post on this forum unless you have something positive to add.
Is that likely?
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Old Jul 24th 2007, 5:13 am
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Originally Posted by northernbird
You see and thats the only reason I do understand. I don't understand the other crap, missing tescos and old buildings doesn't cut it with me but having a cuppa with your Mum would get my vote every time.

I miss my family more than anything. I am getting used to everything else.

I can live without country lanes, castles etc but I'd love to see more of my mum and dad.
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Old Jul 24th 2007, 8:19 am
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Cool Re: chasing the dream creates superficial happiness

Originally Posted by Big Pete
Well you may be , but lots dont run there life through family and friends , some make new friends and accept family distance , unless you need a cuddle before bed why worry over family ?

You can't just instantly replace friends you've known for years and years with new friends. It's not the same. You don't have the same bonds, shared experiences etc. If you've never had this then you can probably make statements like "I won't miss any of this, me", and you probably won't as you won't miss something you haven't had. Then you can move abroad and post on these forums like so many do about how you're the positive attitude type, and what a success you must be in your personal life for being able to move abroad for good.
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Old Jul 24th 2007, 9:46 am
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Default Re: chasing the dream creates superficial happiness

Originally Posted by billybaxter
i wish i'd seen it earlier.

it has become blatantly obvious that so many people make this large step of emigrating to oz because they dream of the happiness it will create for them.

it only creates a superficial happiness.

family and true friends back home are what counts.

friends you meet out here will never ever be the same as your friends back home that you grew up with.

the weather, the (supposedely) better standard of living, more relaxed atmosphere (what used to be in oz) are all just superficial compared to what you have when you are back where your roots lie.

so many people spend thousands of pounds finding all this the hard way...i am one of these people.
Sorry to hear that things haven't worked out for you, especially if you had high hopes. However, you are speaking for yourself, many British people move to Australia and find it was right for them. How long have you given yourselves to settle in? It does take a while to find true friends, often two years or more, and you really have to put yourself out there.

It would be a sad state of affairs if we all met our true friends growing up and that was the end of that. I would like to think there are still people out there who I am yet to meet who I will feel an affinity with. After all, people do move away or change or heaven forbid, die.

Anyway, not trying to be the devil's advocate but there are many people who read this forum while planning to emigrate and you speak in such certainties that I thought the other side needs to be put. Roll on moderator??

Anyway, good luck with your return to Blighty.
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Old Jul 24th 2007, 11:01 am
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Default Re: chasing the dream creates superficial happiness

Originally Posted by aussietobe
Sorry to hear that things haven't worked out for you, especially if you had high hopes. However, you are speaking for yourself, many British people move to Australia and find it was right for them. How long have you given yourselves to settle in? It does take a while to find true friends, often two years or more, and you really have to put yourself out there.

It would be a sad state of affairs if we all met our true friends growing up and that was the end of that. I would like to think there are still people out there who I am yet to meet who I will feel an affinity with. After all, people do move away or change or heaven forbid, die.

Anyway, not trying to be the devil's advocate but there are many people who read this forum while planning to emigrate and you speak in such certainties that I thought the other side needs to be put. Roll on moderator??

Anyway, good luck with your return to Blighty.
I don't think the mods will have a problem with this as you are expressing a perfectly reasonable opinion in a perfectly reasonable way. It's the Oz-fanatics who attack returners who get into trouble with the mods.

I think another part of the picture is the number of returners who say that their friends and family have moved on, and they have very little contact with them after they get back. Whether this is reality or the result of heightened expectations is another question.
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Old Jul 24th 2007, 1:02 pm
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Default Re: chasing the dream creates superficial happiness

Originally Posted by dreamcatcher
This is for Katesbackagain too.Really feel for you.

Thank you, Dreamcatcher, that's a nice thing to say.

As for the whole friends/family argument, this is one major draw that's sure as hell making me want to go back. When I was younger, my mum and I didn't get along at all, but now that I'm older and have learned to appreciate her more, I adore her, and want to be near her every time I'm ill or going through a lot of stress. Whenever I talk to her on the phone, I feel an ache that takes a while to go away.

My family are the one thing that have been consistant and supportive for me, and I have no shame whatsoever in admitting that they're a big part of my wanting to go back. I feel bad for people who don't have someone to care about that much.
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