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Re: The British and their Dramas
Originally Posted by Johnboyuk
(Post 13129415)
When I lived in Canada, in living memory, the city where I lived had temperatures of potentially between minus 40C and plus 40C, possibly even worse when you factored in the wind chill and the humidity factor but life would go on as usual. Now, in the UK, they have three days that have temperatures of plus 30C and they are talking about closing businesses or restricting hours of business and throwing around terms such as 'red alert', 'amber warning,' 'national emergency,' 'red heat,' 'thousands could die,' etc. and advising people not to travel. Talk about a small minded people? In most of the North Eastern American continent, life goes on regardless.
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Nice and cool 22C here today and a gentle breeze. Lovely. Leaving for a dentist appoint in 10 minutes - not so lovely - but at least the dentist's office will not be an oven.
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Re: The British and their Dramas
Originally Posted by mikelincs
(Post 13129511)
Schools still do not have A/C but most class rooms have large areas of glass windows, and will be far too hot for safety, it's only a fw days, this time, but will increase. Currently the cost of providing A/C means it's a cheaper option to close for the days.
Even though Spain is used to hot summers, the temperatures being experienced in most of Spain during the last couple of weeks are dangerous. Two workers in Madrid, one a street cleaner and the other working in an industrial unit, have already died and it was reported last night that another Madrid street cleaner was in hospital in critical condition because of heatstroke. Around Málaga we have been very lucky to escape the worst of it, temperatures of 32/33. |
Re: The British and their Dramas
More than a drama for all those who have lost their homes in Dagenham and elsewhere, lack of firefighters and equipment is down to Johnson who closed a lot of stations and sold off the spare equipment when he was Mayor.
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Re: The British and their Dramas
Originally Posted by mikelincs
(Post 13129923)
More than a drama for all those who have lost their homes in Dagenham and elsewhere, lack of firefighters and equipment is down to Johnson who closed a lot of stations and sold off the spare equipment when he was Mayor.
(1) Michael on Twitter: "How sad. Dagenham https://t.co/Qj5ySne7Yu" / Twitter Maybe now some of those who have been saying "ïts just a bit of summer heat" will start thinking before they open their mouths. |
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I think this is one very serious consequence of this week's heatwave which really justifies a bit of drama.
London NHS trust cancels operations as IT system fails in heatwave | NHS | The Guardian |
Re: The British and their Dramas
I just don't understand this viewpoint. The UK is nothing like the US or France of Spain or anywhere with anticipation of prolonged hot weather. Sure, it's *only* three days, but it wasn't 18 degrees before it was 40 - it's been a ramping up since early July which meant some homes were already really hot. The houses are built so close together, with surfaces that absorb and radiate the heat, it's very tricky. We were there in early July and it was getting hard to sleep at night - no breeze in our AirBnB even with the windows wide open. Two rooms had skylights which were lovely most of the year, I'm sure, but turned it into an oven when the weather got hot. My nephew's school finally relaxed the blazer requirement just before the temps got over 35. Everyday life there is not made for warmer weather, so suggesting it's some propensity for drama that makes people fuss about it isn't right.
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Re: The British and their Dramas
Originally Posted by Stelly
(Post 13131323)
I just don't understand this viewpoint. The UK is nothing like the US or France of Spain or anywhere with anticipation of prolonged hot weather. Sure, it's *only* three days, but it wasn't 18 degrees before it was 40 - it's been a ramping up since early July which meant some homes were already really hot. The houses are built so close together, with surfaces that absorb and radiate the heat, it's very tricky. We were there in early July and it was getting hard to sleep at night - no breeze in our AirBnB even with the windows wide open. Two rooms had skylights which were lovely most of the year, I'm sure, but turned it into an oven when the weather got hot. My nephew's school finally relaxed the blazer requirement just before the temps got over 35. Everyday life there is not made for warmer weather, so suggesting it's some propensity for drama that makes people fuss about it isn't right.
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Re: The British and their Dramas
Originally Posted by brits1
(Post 13131510)
I can say that the weather you describe did not happen where I live in The north west or over the Pennines I. Sheffield etc one day it was cold then then for us it gradually crept up to a nice 28/32 for a couple of day and since then it’s been ranging from (during the day) 16/19 with cloudy days and light showers in the other hand my DH works in London and it’s either been sunny and HOT or cloudy and very warm and it’s been like this for months the difference in weather on this lovely Island (s) of ours differs from not just county to county but a couple of miles lol
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Re: The British and their Dramas
Originally Posted by Johnboyuk
(Post 13129415)
When I lived in Canada, in living memory, the city where I lived had temperatures of potentially between minus 40C and plus 40C, possibly even worse when you factored in the wind chill and the humidity factor but life would go on as usual. Now, in the UK, they have three days that have temperatures of plus 30C and they are talking about closing businesses or restricting hours of business and throwing around terms such as 'red alert', 'amber warning,' 'national emergency,' 'red heat,' 'thousands could die,' etc. and advising people not to travel. Talk about a small minded people? In most of the North Eastern American continent, life goes on regardless.
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Re: The British and their Dramas
Originally Posted by Pollyana
(Post 13129524)
I agree. The country has not been set up for it cos it has never been needed. I have had long conversations with colleagues in Australia who say the British are "stupid to stop for a little bit of heat" You have to explain that all the things many here take for granted - constant air con at work, and in most homes, air con in schools, even as simple as having the right clothing, and knowing ways to stay cool, in the UK these are not a fact of life as they've never been necessary.
Very easy to mock and call people "small-minded", but really it should just be understood that people can't be expected to adapt instantly to unusually extreme conditions. interesting lyrics, a song he apparently wrote travelling between Hanoi to Saigon. *typically British* 1950's memories at the seaside watching Dad's in long sleeve shirts roll up their leg pants to their knees walking into the water, with Mum's wearing frocks at the beach. then for British folks that live in Canada how quickly (maybe 2-3 years) they adapt to the +30 to -30 temperatures, the blazing heat/high humidity to hell has frozen over icy pavements/road, slush, deep snow & power outage. |
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