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kiwibrit101 Feb 7th 2012 7:50 am

Blighty and Benefit
 
I fear for old blighty.....scanning this forum, the amount of folk who have distant ties with the UK needing to go back because they can no longer afford to stay where they are and need the support of the uk benefit system...all be it legitimately ( and let face it we all would do it if we were on the bones of our knees), but you do wonder where it will end.

dollface Feb 7th 2012 11:16 am

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Originally Posted by kiwibrit101 (Post 9889327)
I fear for old blighty.....scanning this forum, the amount of folk who have distant ties with the UK needing to go back because they can no longer afford to stay where they are and need the support of the uk benefit system...all be it legitimately ( and let face it we all would do it if we were on the bones of our knees), but you do wonder where it will end.

Name and shame them:rofl:

fulwood Feb 7th 2012 11:23 am

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dollface Feb 7th 2012 11:29 am

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I'd have thought gay and light wasn't a bad thing (at times).

fulwood Feb 7th 2012 11:33 am

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I regret my posting. so please disregard.

dollface Feb 7th 2012 11:38 am

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Originally Posted by fulwood (Post 9889719)
I regret my posting. so please disregard.

Oh give over:rolleyes:

fulwood Feb 7th 2012 11:39 am

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sorry dollface - bit sensitive and over stressed right now. feel I divulged too much info.

dollface Feb 7th 2012 11:44 am

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Originally Posted by fulwood (Post 9889731)
sorry dollface - bit sensitive and over stressed right now. feel I divulged too much info.

and I apologise for not being more sensitive. I'm sorry to hear of your brothers issues and wish him only the best for the time he has.

I really have little idea of what the initial poster is talking about. I have been on this forum for some time and have come across very few people returning to the UK to "sponge" as she/he is trying to make out. Some may , of course, but the majority of people on here seem decent enough to me.

sallysimmons Feb 7th 2012 1:30 pm

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Originally Posted by dollface (Post 9889737)
I really have little idea of what the initial poster is talking about. I have been on this forum for some time and have come across very few people returning to the UK to "sponge" as she/he is trying to make out. Some may , of course, but the majority of people on here seem decent enough to me.

Indeed. In fact the majority of people are going to return and immediately start paying taxes to contribute to society. But some Brits do seem to have an obsession with what someone else might be getting away with. Life's too short to spend it being resentful and worried about other people IMO.

dollface Feb 8th 2012 2:24 am

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Originally Posted by sallysimmons (Post 9889871)
Indeed. In fact the majority of people are going to return and immediately start paying taxes to contribute to society. But some Brits do seem to have an obsession with what someone else might be getting away with. Life's too short to spend it being resentful and worried about other people IMO.

Totally agree.

formula Feb 8th 2012 4:55 am

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Originally Posted by sallysimmons (Post 9889871)
But some Brits do seem to have an obsession with what someone else might be getting away with.

I think that is because they are fed up with having to pay for fraudsters.

Unless of course, you work in an industry that makes a lot of money in developing software to sell to governments and companies, to find these fraudsters; past and present:thumbsup: We like the thieves.
When I see people moaning about getting caught for something they did years ago, I wonder if it's one of the projects I worked on. :rofl: It's amazing how many people answer "No" to the question "have you ever owned property here or in a foreign country" on welfare claim forms and think they will get away with it without getting caught at some time.

Benefit fraud and NHS fraud isn't time barred and repayments can be taken from any future benefits if needs be; even state pension. This government seems to be taking a hardline and prosecuting theives through the courts too and are looking to increase the amount they can take every week in fines, from welfare payments so that the guilty feel the effects of their punishment.

It's big business for the private companies that develop the software. The new Welfare Reform Bill will cut down on a lot of fraud but there are still plenty of 'past crimes' to find.

dollface Feb 8th 2012 6:43 am

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Originally Posted by formula (Post 9891146)
I think that is because they are fed up with having to pay for fraudsters.

Unless of course, you work in an industry that makes a lot of money in developing software to sell to governments and companies, to find these fraudsters; past and present:thumbsup: We like the thieves.
When I see people moaning about getting caught for something they did years ago, I wonder if it's one of the projects I worked on. :rofl: It's amazing how many people answer "No" to the question "have you ever owned property here or in a foreign country" on welfare claim forms and think they will get away with it without getting caught at some time.

Benefit fraud and NHS fraud isn't time barred and repayments can be taken from any future benefits if needs be; even state pension. This government seems to be taking a hardline and prosecuting theives through the courts too and are looking to increase the amount they can take every week in fines, from welfare payments so that the guilty feel the effects of their punishment.

It's big business for the private companies that develop the software. The new Welfare Reform Bill will cut down on a lot of fraud but there are still plenty of 'past crimes' to find.

Why are you even posting this stuff?:confused: who, that YOU know of, on here are benefit fraudsters?

SanDiegogirl Feb 8th 2012 7:57 am

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Originally Posted by dollface (Post 9891355)
Why are you even posting this stuff?:confused: who, that YOU know of, on here are benefit fraudsters?

I don't know of any actual benefit fraudsters, but in response to the OP's opening posting, there are quite a number of people who say they are moving back to the UK who have little or no resources, no jobs and are depending on parents/relatives etc for sponsorship.

It does make you wonder if the benefits system in the UK encourages these people to move back because they cannot obtain 'help' where they are.

dollface Feb 8th 2012 8:23 am

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Originally Posted by SanDiegogirl (Post 9891506)
I don't know of any actual benefit fraudsters, but in response to the OP's opening posting, there are quite a number of people who say they are moving back to the UK who have little or no resources, no jobs and are depending on parents/relatives etc for sponsorship.

It does make you wonder if the benefits system in the UK encourages these people to move back because they cannot obtain 'help' where they are.

I get what you're saying, totally. I also agree that benefit fraud must be stopped, afterall, why should the decent, honest, hard working tax payers pay for the fraudsters. However, the OP seems a little sinister to me.

SanDiegogirl Feb 8th 2012 8:32 am

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Originally Posted by dollface (Post 9891559)
I get what you're saying, totally. I also agree that benefit fraud must be stopped, afterall, why should the decent, honest, hard working tax payers pay for the fraudsters. However, the OP seems a little sinister to me.

Oh, I don't think he is sinister. Just a little concerned that things have got somewhat out of hand in the UK :)

For example, have just read a posting in another forum whereby a couple have just moved from the US. Wife is UK citizen and, as the husband says, they have not lived in the UK for years (never as a married couple) but now that they are in the UK where do they go to get their child benefit for their two children and JSA for the wife?

It does make you think.


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