rebs

Because, if we crash out of the EU with no deal, there is a possibility that there will be shortages of foods, medicines and fuel. The government's own papers (yellowhammer papers) confirm this.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49670123

spouse of scouse

I don't think people need to become survivalists over Brexit. In a worst case scenario, the yellow papers said there may be a hold up in the supply chain across the Chanel which could lead to decrease or shorter supply of some fresh foods, leading to higher prices for these items. I'm not saying that there won't be any effect, but I don't think anyone's going to starve. Anyway, you can't stockpile fresh food unless you freeze it, and then it's not fresh. You also can't stockpile medicines.

UkWinds5353

Exactly. There are so many unknowns when experiencing a new change to one's environment. It's logical for the folks in the UK to feel tension.

UkWinds5353

How great it would be if this situation is solved before all the sides involved give up and walk away. My wife's sister has inlaws that have already been affected by just the threat of Brexit with a job lost in the automotive industry. Vast majority of the Brits I met in our two months in the UK didn't seem overly bothered and most of those felt that there is no way a Hard Brexit will happen. And they are probably correct. Just feels like a lot of unneeded tension put on folks based on an agenda of a few people in a political class that eventually morphed into a referendum. One thing is for sure Brits are a very tough people. Probably tougher than we Americans.

UkWinds5353

My wife is still on a major high and can't wait till our December visit. Being there in winter will tell me how well I'll adjust to wet cold weather. Don't own a pair of long johns but I guest that is about to change.

christmasoompa

Exactly how cold do you think it gets here?!? I have thermal underwear. I only ever wear it when I'm in skiing in the Alps.

spouse of scouse

On my first visit to the UK, about 10 years ago, I packed long johns. Wore them once and nearly died from overheating!

spouse of scouse

Unless you're planning to camp in the great outdoors in the middle of winter, long johns are the last thing you need. I lived in the north of England for 3 years, even the coldest of days were effectively dealt with by wearing a coat with a hood and, on a few occasions, gloves.

Remember that nearly everywhere has central heating. So if you're out and about for the day/night, shopping theatre or whatever, you'll boil as soon as you get inside if you're wearing long johns. Layers are the way to go, something you can easily put on and take off.

yellowroom

Thermal undies come in very useful for anyone watching outside sports in winter - whether it's standing on the sidelines watching your kids or PL footie. Sitting/standing for any length of time outside can get cold very quickly.

christmasoompa

Jerseygirl

Took my Toronto born and bred SIL to Liverpool over the Christmas period a few years ago. He said he had never been so cold. It’s the damp that get you. In N America it gets bitterly cold but it is normally dry not damp like it is in the UK.

BuckinghamshireBoy

Your daughter plays rugby on a horse???

Things have obviously moved on a bit since I left.

christmasoompa

Two different children, with two different passions. Both annoyingly involve spending ridiculous amounts of time outside and early starts, why on earth they couldn't take up water colour painting is beyond me.

Although horse rugby is quite inspired, I may suggest it.

BuckinghamshireBoy

Thanks for the clarification. Next stop, extreme pastels.

Very glad to read that you enjoyed your recent recce and that you'll be back for more in a couple of months.

Two points, if I may:

1) yellowroom is quite correct to point out the benefits of thermals; apart from attending sporting events as a spectator, they can be a welcome addition when waiting on exposed station platforms for extended periods of time.

2) Brighton on the other hand was Brilliant. This still has me Did you try to enter or leave by road or rail at peak times? Or on a Sunday as far as rail a replacement bus service is concerned?

I don't really have a downer on Brighton, but I find it overpriced, difficult to negotiate, and I'm convinced that there are many better locations out there.

UkWinds5353

Hi Christmas

Everything is relative. If cool or cold weather feels comfortable then thermal wear is seen as overkill. But if 60 degree tempts feel boarder line cold...…

At night in the UK, in only the month of September my family members wore jackets but we're use to Florida weather.
The test for me will be how wet are the winters. I can handle cold...kinda. but cold and wet is going to feel crazy!