Benefits in the UK (London)
#46
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Re: Benefits in the UK (London)
So there you go then. That's what you need to focus on with the job centre.
It became impossible for you to remain in the USA (no home, no job there) and you returned to a part of the UK where you had history and have family. Since being back you've applied for work at X, Y and Z and you've arranged transport (the loan of a bike) to help you with that.
Your work intentions are displayed by you being on the course.
Now while it might seem daft to tell the job centre you're on a course they arranged, that course may not have started at the time the decision was made and/or the person making it wouldn't necessarily have considered it anyway.
Some staff simply apply a qualifying period of actual residency. It's wrong, but some do it. Examples are in the other threads here.
Your appeal might have more chance of success if you focus on the bolded parts.
You probably feel that you've said this to them already, and you may well have done.
But, typically, people are often shocked by this decision and haven't realised the importance of getting the full story over, believing that being British overrides everything else. It doesn't, as you've now discovered.
So the decision may have been made on the original information - probably recorded on an enquiry form. You need to make sure all this extra stuff is recorded so they can reconsider it all.
Have you done anything else that someone re-establishing themselves would do? Opened or resurrected a UK bank account; registered with a doctor; signed on with an agency.
If so, get that across too.
Probably the best you can hope for is for them to change their minds based on this new information.
A compromise alternative is giving up on the claim you made, but making another one from a current date and they may accept you are "more" resident now than you were before, if you see what I mean. Better to lose the first few weeks than to lose out indefinitely.
It became impossible for you to remain in the USA (no home, no job there) and you returned to a part of the UK where you had history and have family. Since being back you've applied for work at X, Y and Z and you've arranged transport (the loan of a bike) to help you with that.
Your work intentions are displayed by you being on the course.
Now while it might seem daft to tell the job centre you're on a course they arranged, that course may not have started at the time the decision was made and/or the person making it wouldn't necessarily have considered it anyway.
Some staff simply apply a qualifying period of actual residency. It's wrong, but some do it. Examples are in the other threads here.
Your appeal might have more chance of success if you focus on the bolded parts.
You probably feel that you've said this to them already, and you may well have done.
But, typically, people are often shocked by this decision and haven't realised the importance of getting the full story over, believing that being British overrides everything else. It doesn't, as you've now discovered.
So the decision may have been made on the original information - probably recorded on an enquiry form. You need to make sure all this extra stuff is recorded so they can reconsider it all.
Have you done anything else that someone re-establishing themselves would do? Opened or resurrected a UK bank account; registered with a doctor; signed on with an agency.
If so, get that across too.
Probably the best you can hope for is for them to change their minds based on this new information.
A compromise alternative is giving up on the claim you made, but making another one from a current date and they may accept you are "more" resident now than you were before, if you see what I mean. Better to lose the first few weeks than to lose out indefinitely.
#47
Re: Benefits in the UK (London)
You said the difficulty you had with writing clearly on this thread, was caused by having to use your nephew's laptop. I have a suggestion. Join the Brighton library. They have free internet access: http://www.brighton.library.on.ca/computers.html
#48
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Re: Benefits in the UK (London)
You said the difficulty you had with writing clearly on this thread, was caused by having to use your nephew's laptop. I have a suggestion. Join the Brighton library. They have free internet access: http://www.brighton.library.on.ca/computers.html
to the jobcentre to put in my appeal and the push bike I borrow to get around on I locked it up and went to get some shoes for the job interview someone nick the vike
#49
Re: Benefits in the UK (London)
Here is the right link.. It does say that computer use is free, so the person in the job centre got it wrong.
#51
Re: Benefits in the UK (London)
I don't know if they still do it but a few years ago the job centre were very happy to give a grant (to those eligible) for things like a bike if it helped with finding work.
#52
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Re: Benefits in the UK (London)
I'm so sorry to hear about the bike MarkR-what rotten scumbags!
Btw; it seems to me that if you have been in a homeless shelter in Chicago you can cope with anything! You are making a good effort so keep going! Editha's tip about the library sounds great. Give it a go. Libraries can provide a lot of free resources, of at least they do here.
Again; sorry about the bike kiddo.
Btw; it seems to me that if you have been in a homeless shelter in Chicago you can cope with anything! You are making a good effort so keep going! Editha's tip about the library sounds great. Give it a go. Libraries can provide a lot of free resources, of at least they do here.
Again; sorry about the bike kiddo.
#53
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Re: Benefits in the UK (London)
Hi markrod - you may want to check the council's job website out: https://ig5.i-grasp.com/fe/tpl_Brigh...4.asp?newms=se. They've been advertising some of the summer jobs over the past few week. (My husbands has an interview to be a train driver on the Volks next week - I've seen jobs for the tennis courts/bowling grounds as well).
#54
Re: Benefits in the UK (London)
Shoes for interviews??
Nicking your Vike??
Methinks you are having us on Mister Troll and I wouldn't be at all surprised to see that you live in Australia.
#55
Re: Benefits in the UK (London)
Ya know what? The longer I read this thread the more I think it's a wind up!!!Nobody pays at the library for the first hour on the Internet
Shoes for interviews??
Nicking your Vike??
Methinks you are having us on Mister Troll and I wouldn't be at all surprised to see that you live in Australia.
Shoes for interviews??
Nicking your Vike??
Methinks you are having us on Mister Troll and I wouldn't be at all surprised to see that you live in Australia.
#56
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Re: Benefits in the UK (London)
Well? MarkR? Yes or no?
It's such a cynical world now, has it reason to be?
It's such a cynical world now, has it reason to be?
#57
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Re: Benefits in the UK (London)
The same thought crossed my mind...but his situation was so pathetic, I had to give him the benefit of the doubt. I'd almost rather he was a troll than be living that harsh reality, know what I mean?
#59
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Re: Benefits in the UK (London)
Hi markrod - you may want to check the council's job website out: https://ig5.i-grasp.com/fe/tpl_Brigh...4.asp?newms=se. They've been advertising some of the summer jobs over the past few week. (My husbands has an interview to be a train driver on the Volks next week - I've seen jobs for the tennis courts/bowling grounds as well).
#60
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Re: Benefits in the UK (London)
you mind not taking the piss pal i have goldenharr symdrome and was born with one eye oki might not be a gooding looking bloke but i not a troll thankyou