Being an expat - Strain in my marriage
#16
Re: Being an expat - Strain in my marriage
She's in ski resort country.
I HAVE to say this, and not meant argumentively but based on the first 21 years of my life......... helluva lot more sunshine in northern New England than in northern Europe.
Still winter can be looooooooooooooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnnng as well we know, and some longer than others. Me, I do like a cold, clear crisp, snow gleaming in the sun day than a blizzard.
I HAVE to say this, and not meant argumentively but based on the first 21 years of my life......... helluva lot more sunshine in northern New England than in northern Europe.
Still winter can be looooooooooooooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnnng as well we know, and some longer than others. Me, I do like a cold, clear crisp, snow gleaming in the sun day than a blizzard.
#17
Joined: Feb 2002
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Re: Being an expat - Strain in my marriage
Just a quick thought....
I've never been to Arizona, but I was told that there are ski resorts there. I have no idea how they compare with other ski resorts such as Killington and Stowe in VT, or the numerous ski resorts clustered around Lake Tahoe, CA etc. but are there decent ski resorts in AZ?
I'll hazard a guess that the climate may suit better, plus of course there is a sizeable Spanish speaking population there (and yes, I know that 'nits' is legally in the USA!)
I've never been to Arizona, but I was told that there are ski resorts there. I have no idea how they compare with other ski resorts such as Killington and Stowe in VT, or the numerous ski resorts clustered around Lake Tahoe, CA etc. but are there decent ski resorts in AZ?
I'll hazard a guess that the climate may suit better, plus of course there is a sizeable Spanish speaking population there (and yes, I know that 'nits' is legally in the USA!)
#18
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Re: Being an expat - Strain in my marriage
With the unemployment rate in California being almost twice that of Vermont, is this really prudent advice for a young couple? She expressed many challenges and concerns only one of which would be solved by more sunshine.
It's getting to where almost every single problem that expats post about get the same answer from you - just move to California and soon you'll be farting through silk. California is a beautiful state but it undermines the legitimacy of many of these heartfelt posts to imply that all unhappy people are just unhappy because they live in the wrong place. Besides, quality of life, not to mention the best physical environment in which to live, is a completely personal and subjective matter.
It's getting to where almost every single problem that expats post about get the same answer from you - just move to California and soon you'll be farting through silk. California is a beautiful state but it undermines the legitimacy of many of these heartfelt posts to imply that all unhappy people are just unhappy because they live in the wrong place. Besides, quality of life, not to mention the best physical environment in which to live, is a completely personal and subjective matter.
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#20
Joined: Jan 2004
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Re: Being an expat - Strain in my marriage
The primary cause of unhappiness is never the situation but your thoughts about it.
- Eckhart Tolle
I can't add any advice, but hope that you and your husband can have a meaningful and productive to .
Best wishes.
- Eckhart Tolle
I can't add any advice, but hope that you and your husband can have a meaningful and productive to .
Best wishes.
#21
Re: Being an expat - Strain in my marriage
oooooooooooooooooooo thank you all for such great replies =D you made me laugh out loud!!! (which is always welcomed!)
As far as moving, I don't think we'll be doing that any time soon. We both have decent paying jobs (we are very fortunate to have jobs) and he's going back to school and I'm planning to. The thought of paying out-of-state for school makes me shiver. So, for now, I guess I'll just go and buy one of those special lamps that are supposed to help depressed people
We did have a talk. He said everything is perfect expect that there is so much drama in our marriage! (still not sure what to think of this). By drama, he means that sometimes I just burst into tears and get very upset. Which is very true. But I also think it is a bit unfair to blame me for it.
I am actually being much much better about it than last year. But I tried to explain to him that all those pillars that make me be happy (i e: my family, my friends... the job that I had back in Arg, which I really really enjoy...) are not here. So, basically, this last year and a half Ive had to re-learn how to "be happy", if that makes sense. He understands what I'm saying, but he didn't deny that my attitude is taking a toll in our marriage. However, he reiterated that he loves me and he wants to be with me. And honestly, a little part of me just wants to tell him "GROW UP"... marriage can't be all bliss, and you are supposed to stick witht he person you love through the rough times, right?
Anyway, I don't want to make it sound like he's an ass, because he definetly isn't. But he ain't perfect either
So, again, thank you all for your advice. I think we'll make it through this one, if only he's a little bit patient with me and doesn't stop loving me in the meantime.
As far as moving, I don't think we'll be doing that any time soon. We both have decent paying jobs (we are very fortunate to have jobs) and he's going back to school and I'm planning to. The thought of paying out-of-state for school makes me shiver. So, for now, I guess I'll just go and buy one of those special lamps that are supposed to help depressed people
We did have a talk. He said everything is perfect expect that there is so much drama in our marriage! (still not sure what to think of this). By drama, he means that sometimes I just burst into tears and get very upset. Which is very true. But I also think it is a bit unfair to blame me for it.
I am actually being much much better about it than last year. But I tried to explain to him that all those pillars that make me be happy (i e: my family, my friends... the job that I had back in Arg, which I really really enjoy...) are not here. So, basically, this last year and a half Ive had to re-learn how to "be happy", if that makes sense. He understands what I'm saying, but he didn't deny that my attitude is taking a toll in our marriage. However, he reiterated that he loves me and he wants to be with me. And honestly, a little part of me just wants to tell him "GROW UP"... marriage can't be all bliss, and you are supposed to stick witht he person you love through the rough times, right?
Anyway, I don't want to make it sound like he's an ass, because he definetly isn't. But he ain't perfect either
So, again, thank you all for your advice. I think we'll make it through this one, if only he's a little bit patient with me and doesn't stop loving me in the meantime.
#22
Re: Being an expat - Strain in my marriage
oooooooooooooooooooo thank you all for such great replies =D you made me laugh out loud!!! (which is always welcomed!)
As far as moving, I don't think we'll be doing that any time soon. We both have decent paying jobs (we are very fortunate to have jobs) and he's going back to school and I'm planning to. The thought of paying out-of-state for school makes me shiver. So, for now, I guess I'll just go and buy one of those special lamps that are supposed to help depressed people
We did have a talk. He said everything is perfect expect that there is so much drama in our marriage! (still not sure what to think of this). By drama, he means that sometimes I just burst into tears and get very upset. Which is very true. But I also think it is a bit unfair to blame me for it.
I am actually being much much better about it than last year. But I tried to explain to him that all those pillars that make me be happy (i e: my family, my friends... the job that I had back in Arg, which I really really enjoy...) are not here. So, basically, this last year and a half Ive had to re-learn how to "be happy", if that makes sense. He understands what I'm saying, but he didn't deny that my attitude is taking a toll in our marriage. However, he reiterated that he loves me and he wants to be with me. And honestly, a little part of me just wants to tell him "GROW UP"... marriage can't be all bliss, and you are supposed to stick witht he person you love through the rough times, right?
Anyway, I don't want to make it sound like he's an ass, because he definetly isn't. But he ain't perfect either
So, again, thank you all for your advice. I think we'll make it through this one, if only he's a little bit patient with me and doesn't stop loving me in the meantime.
As far as moving, I don't think we'll be doing that any time soon. We both have decent paying jobs (we are very fortunate to have jobs) and he's going back to school and I'm planning to. The thought of paying out-of-state for school makes me shiver. So, for now, I guess I'll just go and buy one of those special lamps that are supposed to help depressed people
We did have a talk. He said everything is perfect expect that there is so much drama in our marriage! (still not sure what to think of this). By drama, he means that sometimes I just burst into tears and get very upset. Which is very true. But I also think it is a bit unfair to blame me for it.
I am actually being much much better about it than last year. But I tried to explain to him that all those pillars that make me be happy (i e: my family, my friends... the job that I had back in Arg, which I really really enjoy...) are not here. So, basically, this last year and a half Ive had to re-learn how to "be happy", if that makes sense. He understands what I'm saying, but he didn't deny that my attitude is taking a toll in our marriage. However, he reiterated that he loves me and he wants to be with me. And honestly, a little part of me just wants to tell him "GROW UP"... marriage can't be all bliss, and you are supposed to stick witht he person you love through the rough times, right?
Anyway, I don't want to make it sound like he's an ass, because he definetly isn't. But he ain't perfect either
So, again, thank you all for your advice. I think we'll make it through this one, if only he's a little bit patient with me and doesn't stop loving me in the meantime.
Growing up is a process both of you will experience, maybe not at the same time, or in the same way, but it happens. The idea is to grow like a tree with branches intertwined.
As long as he loves you, you are good to go, but NEVER, NEVER take it for granted.
#25
Re: Being an expat - Strain in my marriage
hahahaha, Im latin, the men I am used to are very into drama! Not my american hubby, though
Husband has been really affectionate and nice since the talk this afternoon I think things are looking up
Husband has been really affectionate and nice since the talk this afternoon I think things are looking up
#26
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You obviously love each other, but sometimes that just isn't enough. As Cindy says, you need to grow together and take one day at a time, don't expect him to understand what is going on in your head/heart just because he is your other half, sometimes men like to just ignore emotional upset because they don't know how to deal with it, keep talking and listening to each other, it's the only way to really know how each is feeling.
Good luck sweety, I don't think he is 'blaming' you as such, I think he is just trying to let you know that he isn't unhappy, but knows you are, he is more likely just frustrated and doesn't see any way he can help you with your missing people/things, he just wants you to accept your new life with him and be happy with what you both have here and now. Maybe you need to reassure him that you are, but that it's natural for you to miss those things at times and you just need him to understand that.
#27
Re: Being an expat - Strain in my marriage
Aw Gawd, I know EXACTLY what you're going through!
In the last few years my life has changed so much. I've gone from being a fairly well-paid office lackey, to a copyeditor who stays at home in her pyjamas most days, looking after a one-year-old. I live in a foreign country, drive on the other side of the road (had a dream about that last night - caused a crash! ), have a weird 'accent', don't see my family at all, and can't find a decent nightclub in this town for love nor money.
And having PPD didn't help either...
OH and I are now using couples' therapy to work through our problems. His life hasn't changed one iota, other than having a wife and son, whereas mine is so, so different that occassionally I wake up confused as to where, and who, I am.
Maybe talking to a professional would help you too.
In the last few years my life has changed so much. I've gone from being a fairly well-paid office lackey, to a copyeditor who stays at home in her pyjamas most days, looking after a one-year-old. I live in a foreign country, drive on the other side of the road (had a dream about that last night - caused a crash! ), have a weird 'accent', don't see my family at all, and can't find a decent nightclub in this town for love nor money.
And having PPD didn't help either...
OH and I are now using couples' therapy to work through our problems. His life hasn't changed one iota, other than having a wife and son, whereas mine is so, so different that occassionally I wake up confused as to where, and who, I am.
Maybe talking to a professional would help you too.
#29
Re: Being an expat - Strain in my marriage
I attend by myself every other week, and then he comes along once a month. I think it's starting to work, yes, because I get to air my grievances to an impartial party, and then we can discuss them in a *mature* manner during the joint sessions.
Our marriage was never in trouble, we just wanted to boot it back on to the right track.
Our marriage was never in trouble, we just wanted to boot it back on to the right track.
#30
Re: Being an expat - Strain in my marriage
You can remind yours, as I do mine, that the drama and passion is what they fell for in the first place!