Back to UK for 'extended period of time'.. Reality / logistics of that?
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Back to UK for 'extended period of time'.. Reality / logistics of that?
Hi.
Been in Canada for almost 4 years, currently have PR, and application for citizenship has been sent.
I am not happy here. Marriage is crumbling.. Long story (in another thread) Short trips home are not cutting it. So seriously considering taking the advice of others and going home to UK for an extended period of time. Whether that is 1-2-3-6 months..
So how is that actually achievable?
I would need to rent a property, (cant exactly stay with family or in a hotel for 6months), so in order to pay for this property and survive I would need a job.
To get around, I would need a car ect ect
Questions:
- Can I use my Ontario driving licence to drive a car for 6months?
- What about car insurance ?
- would I have to swap back my Ont licence for a full UK one?
- What about paying tax / national insurance ?
Many more questions but I'll leave it there for now
Been in Canada for almost 4 years, currently have PR, and application for citizenship has been sent.
I am not happy here. Marriage is crumbling.. Long story (in another thread) Short trips home are not cutting it. So seriously considering taking the advice of others and going home to UK for an extended period of time. Whether that is 1-2-3-6 months..
So how is that actually achievable?
I would need to rent a property, (cant exactly stay with family or in a hotel for 6months), so in order to pay for this property and survive I would need a job.
To get around, I would need a car ect ect
Questions:
- Can I use my Ontario driving licence to drive a car for 6months?
- What about car insurance ?
- would I have to swap back my Ont licence for a full UK one?
- What about paying tax / national insurance ?
Many more questions but I'll leave it there for now
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Re: Back to UK for 'extended period of time'.. Reality / logistics of that?
You can use your Ontario licence for 12 months
What about car insurance - yes, you will need to purchase it and it might be expensive
What about paying tax/national insurance - yes, if you get a job you will pay tax and insurance.
What about car insurance - yes, you will need to purchase it and it might be expensive
What about paying tax/national insurance - yes, if you get a job you will pay tax and insurance.
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Re: Back to UK for 'extended period of time'.. Reality / logistics of that?
So if you take a job earning £50,000/yr and start work on January 6 then you will earn £12,500 by April 5, and pay no income tax (or get it all refunded. If you started the same job on October 6, then you would earn £25,000 by the following April 5, and only pay tax on £12,500.
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Re: Back to UK for 'extended period of time'.. Reality / logistics of that?
Depending on when in the tax year (April 6 - April 5) he arrives in the UK and perhaps how long he stays, he may pay little or no income tax. Annual personal allows accrue throughout the tax year irrespective of whether you are earning and living the UK.
So if you take a job earning £50,000/yr and start work on January 6 then you will earn £12,500 by April 5, and pay no income tax (or get it all refunded. If you started the same job on October 6, then you would earn £25,000 by the following April 5, and only pay tax on £12,500.
So if you take a job earning £50,000/yr and start work on January 6 then you will earn £12,500 by April 5, and pay no income tax (or get it all refunded. If you started the same job on October 6, then you would earn £25,000 by the following April 5, and only pay tax on £12,500.
He's only been in Canada for 4 years - so should be well aware of how UK taxes work.
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Re: Back to UK for 'extended period of time'.. Reality / logistics of that?
Well I'm not going to work out whether or not he pays taxes dependent on when he arrives or how much he earns etc etc ..... best to expect to pay taxes if you work, and then have a nice surprise when you don't.
He's only been in Canada for 4 years - so should be well aware of how UK taxes work.
He's only been in Canada for 4 years - so should be well aware of how UK taxes work.
Depending on your salary/ pay level it is optimal to start work after returning to the UK a few weeks/ months ahead of the end of the tax year and to leave your job and the UK, a few weeks/ months before you leave the UK.
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IME many people in the UK are not aware about what happens with PAYE when you only work for part of a year.
Depending on your salary/ pay level it is optimal to start work after returning to the UK a few weeks/ months ahead of the end of the tax year and to leave your job and the UK, a few weeks/ months before you leave the UK.
Depending on your salary/ pay level it is optimal to start work after returning to the UK a few weeks/ months ahead of the end of the tax year and to leave your job and the UK, a few weeks/ months before you leave the UK.
It should have read
..... Depending on your salary/ pay level it is optimal to start work after returning to the UK a few weeks/ months ahead of the end of the tax year and to leave your job and the UK, a few weeks/ months after the start of the tax year.
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Re: Back to UK for 'extended period of time'.. Reality / logistics of that?
Well I'm not going to work out whether or not he pays taxes dependent on when he arrives or how much he earns etc etc ..... best to expect to pay taxes if you work, and then have a nice surprise when you don't.
He's only been in Canada for 4 years - so should be well aware of how UK taxes work.
He's only been in Canada for 4 years - so should be well aware of how UK taxes work.
As an employee: you pay National Insurance contributions if you earn more than £183 a week for 2020-21. you pay 12% of your earnings above this limit and up to £962 a week for 2020-21. the rate drops to 2% of your earnings over £962 a week.
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Re: Back to UK for 'extended period of time'.. Reality / logistics of that?
Hi.
Been in Canada for almost 4 years, currently have PR, and application for citizenship has been sent.
I am not happy here. Marriage is crumbling.. Long story (in another thread) Short trips home are not cutting it. So seriously considering taking the advice of others and going home to UK for an extended period of time. Whether that is 1-2-3-6 months..
So how is that actually achievable?
I would need to rent a property, (cant exactly stay with family or in a hotel for 6months), so in order to pay for this property and survive I would need a job.
To get around, I would need a car ect ect
Questions:
- Can I use my Ontario driving licence to drive a car for 6months?
- What about car insurance ?
- would I have to swap back my Ont licence for a full UK one?
- What about paying tax / national insurance ?
Many more questions but I'll leave it there for now
Been in Canada for almost 4 years, currently have PR, and application for citizenship has been sent.
I am not happy here. Marriage is crumbling.. Long story (in another thread) Short trips home are not cutting it. So seriously considering taking the advice of others and going home to UK for an extended period of time. Whether that is 1-2-3-6 months..
So how is that actually achievable?
I would need to rent a property, (cant exactly stay with family or in a hotel for 6months), so in order to pay for this property and survive I would need a job.
To get around, I would need a car ect ect
Questions:
- Can I use my Ontario driving licence to drive a car for 6months?
- What about car insurance ?
- would I have to swap back my Ont licence for a full UK one?
- What about paying tax / national insurance ?
Many more questions but I'll leave it there for now