Bud the Wiser

Why would I want him to do something?

And I'm disagreeing with some of his posts, which is what people do on a forum. He's welcome to provide links should he wish to do so. I've no problem either way.

Then you should have no problem when people post negative things about the UK.

Hopefully they will do so.

Bud the Wiser

You completly miss the point. it's the selective choosing of what reports to post and inform others that is misleading.

brissybee

Just wondering if anyone has experience of spending time in Glastonbury, other than for the music festival?

In particular, the Chalice Well looks like a lovely place to visit.

brits1

In my experience I tend to give statistics light reading lol...the only way you can truly know about anywhere is if you have either lived,worked or visited for a long period and in recent times. I have travelled quite widely and I am surprised by the change in certain countries even after a couple of years. I think you should stop reading statistics and go out and investigate yourself...much more fun and much more real.

Pit Bull.

People do stretch the truth to suit there aims, it's just human nature. There are some great places to live here in the UK especially if you have enough money to buy a house in the countryside, those converted barns are incredible, low crime, away from the troublesome areas. Most people can't afford to do this, so peoples opinions and experiences are going to differ massively, but the idealic lifestyle is there to be had, if you can afford it.

sallysimmons

Or maybe his experience just genuinely is the way he describes it.

Apparently the town I live near (Harrogate) has a culture of binge drinking and drugs on a Saturday night. We've been into town on a Saturday night a few times and seen nothing but couples strolling round, people walking their dogs, and young people wandering from pub to pub laughing and giggling. Am I being selective if I tell you that? Or should I invent a gang fight just to make my experiences sound more realistic? I'm sure they're happening somewhere in town - I just haven't seen them as yet.

I think what happens when you've been away a long time is that you internalize the stories of hoodies and drinking and violence, and you imagine that it's far more visible and prevalent than it actually is. (I know I did that and when we first came back, I was nervous about going into town at night). That makes it hard to believe those of us who say we haven't witnessed any of it, but we can only tell you what we see.

Bud the Wiser

I lot of truth in what you've just said. I doubt though if those who are thinking of returning have the luxury to be able investigate in depth and use this forum as a stepping stone in their quest for information. Having a balance of information is important and those who report negative experiences should be listened to without having their views dismissed in the way they so often are.

Grayling

They are in no worse a position than you are but, you have, for some reason, taken it upon yourself to inform them about the negative aspects of the UK despite not being there yourself either.

Perhaps many are far better informed than yourself.

Bud the Wiser

I'm sure the crime stats he CHOOSE to report are correct.

FYI:

http://www.ukcrimestats.com/Neighbou...Harrogate_Town

Not at all. My mind is always open and I'm more than happy to concede a point of view in reasoned debate. I never said I didn't believe you when you said you hadn't witnessed any crime, what I said was just because you don't witness it doesn't mean to say it doesn't happen. Totally different.

mikelincs

We lived in a town that was a suburb of Bournemouth, it did have a major drug problem, and you often saw people sitting on benches in the shopping precinct in the morning drinking cans of strong lager, BUT we never personally saw any problems, however a week after we left there was a murder only about 200 yards from where we lived, there was one very dodgy are in the town, but also some very nice upmarket areas. Personally I wouldn't recommend it, not for the drug problems etc, but the fact that the centre is rather run down with a lot of empty shops, and the streets around it are dismal and dirty.

Bud the Wiser

Not true. I have written very little about negative aspects of the UK and when I find positive aspects I'm happy to post them. Errrrrmmm look at the first post on this thread and who started it.

Well of course many are, that's why I want to absorb as many different views and experiences as possible. Both negative and positive. Common sense really.

Grayling

......and butter wouldn't melt in your mouth

Bud the Wiser

"It would be no description of Mr Pecksniff's gentleness of manner to adopt the common parlance, and say that he looked at this moment as if butter wouldn't melt in his mouth. He rather looked as if any quantity of butter might have been made out of him, by churning the milk of human kindness, as it spouted upwards from his heart."

sallysimmons

But I didn't claim that did I? Nor has anyone else.

All we are doing is giving you our experiences - actual experiences, not stats or things gleaned from the papers, or from our memory banks.

Back in America, I lived in a lovely little town near Manhattan. You could walk out at night without any fear, the streets were always spotlessly clean, the people nodded hello as they passed by. We often went out without locking our doors (by accident) and never had a burglary. And yet, whenever I saw the local paper, I was shocked. Over just the last few years there was a bank robber on the loose for a few months - he had held up the 3 local banks at gunpoint. The body of a teenage girl was found in town one morning just laying in the middle of the road. The owner of a local landscape company was found shot dead behind some shops just up the road.

I usually didn't read the paper, so I was unaware of all this. And if you had asked me about the town, I would have said it was a lovely place to live (still would).

Point is there is crime everywhere - even the 'nice' towns. But unless you live in a particularly crime-ridden place, it doesn't intrude on your every day life, no matter what the Daily Mail says.

Pit Bull.

Where I live in the UK it's the same, there is never any problems with anything, no fear of crime, but like you say if you read the local paper there's all sorts of crimes being committed, but I have never felt I would fall victim to crime TBH.