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Old Sep 21st 2009, 2:26 pm
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Originally Posted by hereandthere
I'd be surprised if a tutor has anything to do with it. It's a finance office decision. They check the residency status of applicants, not personal tutors.
Yes that is correct but when you are not use to the Uni stysem in the U.K it is great to talk to someone who actually know about the course etc...also the tutor put us in touch with the Uni accounting dept and they were of great help, they sent us (not ucas etc) the forms we were required to fill in about residency....and any help with questions we were not sure of they were only more than willing to help..did that make a difference....100%..
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Old Sep 21st 2009, 2:29 pm
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Originally Posted by brits1
Yes that is correct but when you are not use to the Uni stysem in the U.K it is great to talk to someone who actually know about the course etc...also the tutor put us in touch with the Uni accounting dept and they were of great help, they sent us (not ucas etc) the forms we were required to fill in about residency....and any help with questions we were not sure of they were only more than willing to help..did that make a difference....100%..
It's good you're in touch with someone who can help. There's usually someone in a university with good advice and flexibility is not unheard of. The problem is a lot of people out there try and abuse the residency rule so unis are very suspicious of this area.
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Old Sep 21st 2009, 5:22 pm
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Does this mean you didn't quite meet the 3 year rule?
Originally Posted by brits1
Yes that is correct but when you are not use to the Uni stysem in the U.K it is great to talk to someone who actually know about the course etc...also the tutor put us in touch with the Uni accounting dept and they were of great help, they sent us (not ucas etc) the forms we were required to fill in about residency....and any help with questions we were not sure of they were only more than willing to help..did that make a difference....100%..
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Originally Posted by ezzie
Does this mean you didn't quite meet the 3 year rule?
Look, they're going to see Australia all over the application form, and then they're going to ask to see a passport. Then they're going to look at the dates and ask questions about permanent residency in Australia. Listen, I'll PM you.
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Old Sep 22nd 2009, 1:01 am
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Originally Posted by ezzie
Does this mean you didn't quite meet the 3 year rule?
Yes we did meet the 3 year rule.....we had to show evidence of our time in the U.K and this spanned 3 years....
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Old Sep 22nd 2009, 1:23 am
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Our son applied to six institutions in England for his Masters degree in medieval history a couple of years ago. He'd lived in the United States since the age of six, and was sending his applications from his address in America. Of the four universities that offered him a place, two quoted the international rate in their financial offers, and two quoted the much lower resident rate. There were varying additional financial incentives in the offers, but the two that offered him the lower resident rate were perhaps the less prestigious institutions that maybe were hungrier to get him to accept. In the end he went to Durham where he paid the full international rate..
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Originally Posted by dunroving
Although I don't follow these threads too closely (no kids myself), I'm sure I recall a number of folks over the years saying they got around the international fees issue in a number of ways. Pretty sure that one was simply talking with individual universities and colleges (i.e., not all apply the rule as strictly). It does seem unfair on "kids" (OK, they're adults when they go to uni) being penalised because they had no choice but to follow their parents overseas ... especially when other services like the NHS are free as soon as you get off the plane (provided you're returning as a resident, that is).

Does the 3-yr rule apply to the parents, or the student? If the latter, is there any way to send your son home early, stay with rellies for a few weeks?
That seems like the solution from where I'm standing - send the son home early to live with family, and as soon as he gets there get him to do stuff like registereing with a GP so he has proof of when he started to "live" there again.
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Old Sep 22nd 2009, 9:30 am
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Our son applied to six institutions in England for his Masters degree in medieval history a couple of years ago.
Your son is obviously very clever and chapeau to him, but I have to ask, is there much call in the market for such a qualification?
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Old Sep 22nd 2009, 10:40 am
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Originally Posted by Pollyana
That seems like the solution from where I'm standing - send the son home early to live with family, and as soon as he gets there get him to do stuff like registereing with a GP so he has proof of when he started to "live" there again.
Is the applicant over 18? Applicants "living" with Granny is an old trick - can the applicant prove Granny is his or her guardian? Where did the applicant go to school? Where do the educational references come from?

For home fees: the applicant will have to be settled and ordinarily resident in the UK on the first day of the first academic year of the course. This ordinary residency must have been for three full years before the first day of the first academic year of the course. Additionally the main purpose of this ordinary residency must not have been to receive FT education (this stops little Tarquin from getting home fees because he is in Eton while Mama and Papa are in Keeenya, etc).
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Old Sep 22nd 2009, 10:44 am
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Originally Posted by robin1234
Our son applied to six institutions in England for his Masters degree in medieval history a couple of years ago. He'd lived in the United States since the age of six, and was sending his applications from his address in America. Of the four universities that offered him a place, two quoted the international rate in their financial offers, and two quoted the much lower resident rate. There were varying additional financial incentives in the offers, but the two that offered him the lower resident rate were perhaps the less prestigious institutions that maybe were hungrier to get him to accept. In the end he went to Durham where he paid the full international rate..
I read in one of your posts that you have two houses - one in the UK. Was this information included in his application? It might have been the reason for the home fees. Most of the people who blag home fees, ironically, are the wealthier ones with two houses, one of which is in the UK. This way, you see, it's much easier for them to construct the story they're resident in the UK because they can supply gas bills from a UK address, etc., even though they are, essentially, living permanently in New Zealand, for example.

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Originally Posted by hereandthere
I read in one of your posts that you have two houses - one in the UK. Was this information included in his application? It might have been the reason for the home fees. Most of the people who blag home fees, ironically, are the wealthier ones with two houses, one of which is in the UK. This way, you see, it's much easier for them to construct the story they're resident in the UK because they can supply gas bills from a UK address, etc., even though they are, essentially, living permanently in New Zealand, for example.
No - we are thinking of moving to the UK though, so I've talked here about buying a property in England. Not really ready to do it yet though!
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Old Sep 22nd 2009, 11:07 am
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Originally Posted by brits1
Yes we did meet the 3 year rule.....we had to show evidence of our time in the U.K and this spanned 3 years....
Doesn't it have to be the 3 years preceding the start of the degree?? For example last year of GCSEs and 2 years of A Levels in the case of a school leaver.
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Old Sep 22nd 2009, 11:08 am
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Originally Posted by robin1234
No - we are thinking of moving to the UK though, so I've talked here about buying a property in England. Not really ready to do it yet though!
Hi Robin

In that case I can't offer an explanation as to why two institutions would have classified home and two overseas. Institutional inconsistency on this is a major pain for applicants. I think your son made the right decision to go to the superior institution regardless of fees.
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Doesn't it have to be the 3 years preceding the start of the degree?? For example last year of GCSEs and 2 years of A Levels in the case of a school leaver.
Read my post above.
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Old Sep 22nd 2009, 11:10 am
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Originally Posted by hereandthere
Read my post above.
Having read posts from Brits, she has spent the last 12 years in Perth and I don't think she maintains a UK home. I didn't think you could just rack up your holiday time while you have been away and say you had amassed the necessary time.
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