kevin747

My son was at the Federer vs Safin match.He told me of his encounters with the clowns from the former Yugoslavia and their nasty Balkan nationalism.
Why do they insist on doing this when presumably the reason they came to Australia was to escape this moronic tribalism?.It's so ill mannered to do this in a country which offered them a far better standard of living than they had back home.

I'm sticking up for Australia here!

Eejits!

onepearlyb

We went to see Novak play Delik yesterday afternoon and saw two scuffles between croatians and bosnians in the grounds ASIDE from the huge chair throwing incident shown on TV. Totally out of order.

kevin747

I prefer Wimbledon even with the old Sir Bufton Tufton types but not Sir Cliff

fionamw

Please please where does this name come from? OH always uses it referring to tweed & green welly types he works with (Cotswolds, nuff said) .... but although I now get the idea, I'd love to know origin!

kevin747

Fictititious character from The Private Eye

fionamw

Duh! Should have guessed...used to read the Grauniad, can't think of any others..... thanks

Jules Europe

The moronic tribalism that you correctly state is very much part of the Balkan make-up and will probably never go away, everything is very tribal in that part of the world right down to similiar surnames, adherence to a certain religion, certain language and alphabet etc The problem stems that you have a largely slavic population that lives with non slavic races such as Romanians and Hungarians etc. The problem was largely created by the Ottoman Empire and made worse by the Austrian-Hungarian Empire.

I can well imagine that wherever these people emmigrate to, they will always take their racial hatred with them to some degree. I have known a number of South Eastern Europeans over the years and they all to some degree dislike a neighbouring racial group.

kevin747

Thanks for the history lesson mate. I was in Bosnia in 1989 and people co existed peacefully as the had for a couple of generations.
I was really on about the behaviour at the tennis.

Jules Europe

Bosnia was probably the exception to the rule which is why the Serb nationalists did all they could to destroy its multi-cultural identity.

As for the tennis match, well I think you`ll find there is something of a history of ex-Yugoslav nationalists turning up at these clashes and starting trouble, tennis matches I would imagine are easy places in which to do this and get a good size audience to view them as well.

islandergirl

I was there too, it was really annoying that some people come just to start stupid ethinic crap rather than watch the tennis, and spoil it for everyone.

Was also devastated that Safin was so well behaved and didn't even break ONE racket...

kevin747

I'm with you.I like the players having a good rammy a la McEnroe at Wimbledon

Zoran

Mostly frustrated kids, with rural background, born in Oz or brought soon after, do not even speak their mother tongue. And FYI Jules, Bosnia was not exception to the rule (there are no rules on the Balkans ), there are 27 different nations still live in Serbia (including Bosniaks (Bosnian muslims)), and Bosnians (all nations) still live together and peacefully in Bosnia, especially in urban areas. Only red-necks are interested in tribalism.

Jules Europe

I mentioned Bosnia as in Sarejevo as a high profile example. Its also obvious that there are no rules of chivalry in the Balkans either. As for red-necks well there was no shortage of those in the Balkans to promote their nationalistic tribalism in the 80`s and 90`s.

kevin747

Always admired Tito and "you shall live togrther attitude"

Zoran

I absolutely agree with you. It's also good to know that anyone can be turned into a ruthless idiot if approached and treated properly as was scientifically proved many times across the globe (http://www.prisonexp.org/ or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment). Have you seen any traces of rules of chivalry in Iraq in the last 6 years?