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cricket1again May 16th 2009 6:52 pm

Re: Anarchy in the uk?
 

Originally Posted by babycart (Post 7578508)
Nothing wrong with being rich & nothing wrong with owning a corporation- whats the point you want to make?

I don't want to make any point. You commented

'There is a sudden realization that the fabric of a society is deeply flawed to favors the political elite and the corporate rich.'

I just wondered why you thought the corporate rich were favoured and if they are, why it's a problem.

babycart May 17th 2009 3:25 am

Re: Anarchy in the uk?
 

Originally Posted by cricket1 (Post 7578535)
I don't want to make any point. You commented

'There is a sudden realization that the fabric of a society is deeply flawed to favors the political elite and the corporate rich.'

I just wondered why you thought the corporate rich were favoured and if they are, why it's a problem.

The reality of your question is really to undermine someone who expresses an opinion rather than being truly interested in what I have to say. The reason why I say this is that your post is picking on semantics rather than context. I have expressed an opinion which I do not need to explain or justify to you. Point scoring on BE is such a trivial past time which I find quite boring. If you want an intellectual discussion with some dept about what I have written then I would be pleased to enter into a PM discussion with you.

johnh009 May 17th 2009 6:20 am

Re: Anarchy in the uk?
 

Originally Posted by jmh (Post 7576747)
I think it already has. Why do MP's need to have their food paid for by the tax payer?

Yes, it really is a sad state of affairs when we need the newspaper groups to police the politicians and try and keep them honest.

cricket1again May 17th 2009 7:44 am

Re: Anarchy in the uk?
 

Originally Posted by babycart (Post 7579602)
The reality of your question is really to undermine someone who expresses an opinion rather than being truly interested in what I have to say. The reason why I say this is that your post is picking on semantics rather than context. I have expressed an opinion which I do not need to explain or justify to you. Point scoring on BE is such a trivial past time which I find quite boring. If you want an intellectual discussion with some dept about what I have written then I would be pleased to enter into a PM discussion with you.

If I wanted an intellectual discussion, I'd go some place else than BE. Thanks for the offer though. Try not to get upset the next time you make a flawed comment and someone puts you on the spot by simply asking you to elaborate.

babycart May 17th 2009 11:01 am

Re: Anarchy in the uk?
 

Originally Posted by cricket1 (Post 7580103)
If I wanted an intellectual discussion, I'd go some place else than BE. Thanks for the offer though. Try not to get upset the next time you make a flawed comment and someone puts you on the spot by simply asking you to elaborate.

I am sorry you feel so flattered- you have no reason to be. I have chosen not to reply to a comment which was designed to be impertinent. How about putting something of substance rather than playing the BE game. The fact that you have put more posts doesn't give you some divine right to assert your views over someone else. I don't need to answer to you just so that you can pick holes in my comments- if you were really interested you would have posted an opposing view rather than making some off the cuff remark.

I was hoping for an intellectual discussion, on something which is very fundamental to UK politics but hey I suppose your insult to most people who contribute great value to this forum as not being particularly stimulating belittles their contributions.:thumbsup

cricket1again May 17th 2009 11:23 am

Re: Anarchy in the uk?
 

Originally Posted by babycart (Post 7580392)
I am sorry you feel so flattered- you have no reason to be. I have chosen not to reply to a comment which was designed to be impertinent. How about putting something of substance rather than playing the BE game. The fact that you have put more posts doesn't give you some divine right to assert your views over someone else. I don't need to answer to you just so that you can pick holes in my comments- if you were really interested you would have posted an opposing view rather than making some off the cuff remark.

I was hoping for an intellectual discussion, on something which is very fundamental to UK politics but hey I suppose your insult to most people who contribute great value to this forum as not being particularly stimulating belittles their contributions.:thumbsup

If you want an intellectual discussion on politics, trying taking Jeremy Paxton out on a date.

I thought the BE forum was for light hearted exchanges about peoples thoughts on travelling. Might be wrong though. Enjoy your day.:)

BristolUK May 17th 2009 11:46 am

Re: Anarchy in the uk?
 

Originally Posted by cricket1 (Post 7578498)
Give the fact it happens so I'm not going to get steamed up about it, I'd rather be ripped off by someone who works for their money.

A better class of cheat you mean?;)
"It's a real honour to be fleeced by you."

elfman May 17th 2009 11:59 am

Re: Anarchy in the uk?
 

Originally Posted by cricket1 (Post 7580433)
If you want an intellectual discussion on politics, trying taking Jeremy Paxton out on a date.

I'm sure he'd be a charming date, but he might be more interested in talking about property development and architecture than politics:
http://www.jeremypaxton.co.uk/

cricket1again May 17th 2009 12:24 pm

Re: Anarchy in the uk?
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 7580464)
A better class of cheat you mean?;)
"It's a real honour to be fleeced by you."

But it happens on every level doesn't it? That's why while I can understand the hard working taxpayer getting annoyed with it all, it's hardly worth getting an ulcer over because from the the little man at grass roots level squirreling cash into his back pocket from doing a spot of moonlighting to the big investor style crooks who have just squandered the global economy, it's just what happens.
I don't like it either but I'm not going to fret over it. I'm busy making my own bit of extra cash.;) Ethically i might add. We make an ethical fashion label which does not discriminate against size or is mass produced in factories in China or India.
There are a lot of caring corporate businesses out there raking in the money but they are exercising ethics too. There are also good politicians.
My point is that there isn't much we can do about it except do the right thing ourselves. Eventually we get rewarded.:)

cricket1again May 17th 2009 12:25 pm

Re: Anarchy in the uk?
 

Originally Posted by elfman (Post 7580480)
I'm sure he'd be a charming date, but he might be more interested in talking about property development and architecture than politics:
http://www.jeremypaxton.co.uk/

Oh well, there you go. It will have to be another equally irritating opinionated speaker on politics.;)

BristolUK May 17th 2009 12:49 pm

Re: Anarchy in the uk?
 

Originally Posted by cricket1 (Post 7580504)
I don't like it either but I'm not going to fret over it.

I'll not lose any sleep over it either. But I'm happy within myself that I can retain my sense of outrage over it and not excuse it because they are just some of many corrupt people taking advantage.

northernbird May 17th 2009 1:14 pm

Re: Anarchy in the uk?
 

Originally Posted by cricket1 (Post 7580433)
If you want an intellectual discussion on politics, trying taking Jeremy Paxton out on a date.

I thought the BE forum was for light hearted exchanges about peoples thoughts on travelling. Might be wrong though. Enjoy your day.:)

If you want to be a smart arse at least try and quote the correct name ;) It is PAXMAN!

cricket1again May 17th 2009 1:37 pm

Re: Anarchy in the uk?
 

Originally Posted by northernbird (Post 7580581)
If you want to be a smart arse at least try and quote the correct name ;) It is PAXMAN!

Oh you again.:rofl:

northernbird May 17th 2009 1:38 pm

Re: Anarchy in the uk?
 

Originally Posted by cricket1 (Post 7580606)
Oh you again.:rofl:

It is funny how consistent we all are isn't it ;)

cricket1again May 17th 2009 1:40 pm

Re: Anarchy in the uk?
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 7580547)
I'll not lose any sleep over it either. But I'm happy within myself that I can retain my sense of outrage over it and not excuse it because they are just some of many corrupt people taking advantage.


I'm on the Gold Coast. I see the worst kinds of corruption crippling ordinary people just trying to survive. For example, greedy landlords increasing commercial rents by 350% plus taking 10% off the gross turnover. If all the UK has to worry about is the odd dodgy politician creaming a few bob off the top, we're still not doing too bad.

I am really looking forward to coming home next month after 51/2 years here just watching in amazement at what really goes on.


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