Alternative Viewpoint
Jan 28th 2006, 4:57 pm
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Alternative Viewpoint
Hi There All......... 
I have read a few of the threads from folk whom are coming back to the U.K. or already have come back. People say they are nuts and mad or not thinking straight. I myself am a South African. I have lived and worked in the U.K. for 13 years now. I live in West Cumbria with 2 kids and the wife. We live an outdoors lifestyle which we enjoy. The wife is from the U.K..
The thing is I have had enough of England now and so has the wife. We are in the position to move so we are. I wish I could go back to South Africa, but I have my parents out there that say it's alright if your are a tourist but forget living there if you want to bring a family. it is dangerous, there is no work if you are white and the government are as corrupt as Robert Mugabe. I have enjoyed my time in the U.K. but in the last 3 years it just seems to me and the wife we pay for nothing. The council is continually closing kids play parks. Ask them to put a swing in an existing one and they tell us as long as we pay for it ourselves they will let us put one in. I am a chef and the quality of the trained chefs coming out of colleges is absolutely crap. Half of them can't even read let alone do anything else. No interest in what they are doing.
I am not slagging the British off but I think they have lost their way. We are going to Australia not because the grass is greener or their is wads of cash. We want the outdoor lifestyle which is almost guaranteed by the weather. We are not materialistic. We want something better for our kids. Heaven knows there is nothing around here for them.
It might seem as if I am trying to put people off coming back here. I am not. I would go back to S.A. now if I could. This place is just not for me anymore. Just like all those folk whom don't like Australia. At least we can say we have given it a go and tried.
Australia is going to be our New South Africa and we are really looking forward to it. Good luck to all those coming back here. At least you've tried it and experienced life elsewhere. Life has its choices, we are all in the fortunate position to make them..................
Ewan and the Noisy Nutters................
P.S. Hope this makes sense, it's Saturday and well sober. :scared:
I have read a few of the threads from folk whom are coming back to the U.K. or already have come back. People say they are nuts and mad or not thinking straight. I myself am a South African. I have lived and worked in the U.K. for 13 years now. I live in West Cumbria with 2 kids and the wife. We live an outdoors lifestyle which we enjoy. The wife is from the U.K..
The thing is I have had enough of England now and so has the wife. We are in the position to move so we are. I wish I could go back to South Africa, but I have my parents out there that say it's alright if your are a tourist but forget living there if you want to bring a family. it is dangerous, there is no work if you are white and the government are as corrupt as Robert Mugabe. I have enjoyed my time in the U.K. but in the last 3 years it just seems to me and the wife we pay for nothing. The council is continually closing kids play parks. Ask them to put a swing in an existing one and they tell us as long as we pay for it ourselves they will let us put one in. I am a chef and the quality of the trained chefs coming out of colleges is absolutely crap. Half of them can't even read let alone do anything else. No interest in what they are doing.
I am not slagging the British off but I think they have lost their way. We are going to Australia not because the grass is greener or their is wads of cash. We want the outdoor lifestyle which is almost guaranteed by the weather. We are not materialistic. We want something better for our kids. Heaven knows there is nothing around here for them.
It might seem as if I am trying to put people off coming back here. I am not. I would go back to S.A. now if I could. This place is just not for me anymore. Just like all those folk whom don't like Australia. At least we can say we have given it a go and tried.
Australia is going to be our New South Africa and we are really looking forward to it. Good luck to all those coming back here. At least you've tried it and experienced life elsewhere. Life has its choices, we are all in the fortunate position to make them..................
Ewan and the Noisy Nutters................
P.S. Hope this makes sense, it's Saturday and well sober. :scared:
Jan 28th 2006, 9:46 pm
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Re: Alternative Viewpoint
Hey Springbok.
Have just read your views re SA.
We lived in Fourways, Randburg for 15 years and returned home to the UK in 1999.
Oh Dear,we have been very disappointed with most aspects of living back in the UK. We had spoken several times about emigrating to Oz while still in SA(My bro lives in Cairns) but decided to come back as 'the better the devil you know'.
Well after 5 years of being back here, we've decided to pack up again and emigrate to Brisbane. My husband has a fantastic job. I'm a specialist nurse. (Used to work at Sandton Clinic) so can get a job anywhere.
My husband leaves next month and we will follow in July once my daughter has finished her exams.
WOW I can't wait. We really miss SA but the violence was horrendous.
Can't wait to be back in the sun and enjoying the outdoors again!!
Hope everything goes well with your move and that you will all be very happy!
Regards............Louise
Have just read your views re SA.
We lived in Fourways, Randburg for 15 years and returned home to the UK in 1999.
Oh Dear,we have been very disappointed with most aspects of living back in the UK. We had spoken several times about emigrating to Oz while still in SA(My bro lives in Cairns) but decided to come back as 'the better the devil you know'.
Well after 5 years of being back here, we've decided to pack up again and emigrate to Brisbane. My husband has a fantastic job. I'm a specialist nurse. (Used to work at Sandton Clinic) so can get a job anywhere.
My husband leaves next month and we will follow in July once my daughter has finished her exams.
WOW
I can't wait. We really miss SA but the violence was horrendous.Can't wait to be back in the sun and enjoying the outdoors again!!
Hope everything goes well with your move and that you will all be very happy!
Regards............Louise
Jan 28th 2006, 10:06 pm
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Re: Alternative Viewpoint
Originally Posted by Springbok
Hi There All.........
I have read a few of the threads from folk whom are coming back to the U.K. or already have come back. People say they are nuts and mad or not thinking straight. I myself am a South African. I have lived and worked in the U.K. for 13 years now. I live in West Cumbria with 2 kids and the wife. We live an outdoors lifestyle which we enjoy. The wife is from the U.K..
The thing is I have had enough of England now and so has the wife. We are in the position to move so we are. I wish I could go back to South Africa, but I have my parents out there that say it's alright if your are a tourist but forget living there if you want to bring a family. it is dangerous, there is no work if you are white and the government are as corrupt as Robert Mugabe. I have enjoyed my time in the U.K. but in the last 3 years it just seems to me and the wife we pay for nothing. The council is continually closing kids play parks. Ask them to put a swing in an existing one and they tell us as long as we pay for it ourselves they will let us put one in. I am a chef and the quality of the trained chefs coming out of colleges is absolutely crap. Half of them can't even read let alone do anything else. No interest in what they are doing.
I am not slagging the British off but I think they have lost their way. We are going to Australia not because the grass is greener or their is wads of cash. We want the outdoor lifestyle which is almost guaranteed by the weather. We are not materialistic. We want something better for our kids. Heaven knows there is nothing around here for them.
It might seem as if I am trying to put people off coming back here. I am not. I would go back to S.A. now if I could. This place is just not for me anymore. Just like all those folk whom don't like Australia. At least we can say we have given it a go and tried.
Australia is going to be our New South Africa and we are really looking forward to it. Good luck to all those coming back here. At least you've tried it and experienced life elsewhere. Life has its choices, we are all in the fortunate position to make them..................
Ewan and the Noisy Nutters................
P.S. Hope this makes sense, it's Saturday and well sober. :scared:
I have read a few of the threads from folk whom are coming back to the U.K. or already have come back. People say they are nuts and mad or not thinking straight. I myself am a South African. I have lived and worked in the U.K. for 13 years now. I live in West Cumbria with 2 kids and the wife. We live an outdoors lifestyle which we enjoy. The wife is from the U.K..
The thing is I have had enough of England now and so has the wife. We are in the position to move so we are. I wish I could go back to South Africa, but I have my parents out there that say it's alright if your are a tourist but forget living there if you want to bring a family. it is dangerous, there is no work if you are white and the government are as corrupt as Robert Mugabe. I have enjoyed my time in the U.K. but in the last 3 years it just seems to me and the wife we pay for nothing. The council is continually closing kids play parks. Ask them to put a swing in an existing one and they tell us as long as we pay for it ourselves they will let us put one in. I am a chef and the quality of the trained chefs coming out of colleges is absolutely crap. Half of them can't even read let alone do anything else. No interest in what they are doing.
I am not slagging the British off but I think they have lost their way. We are going to Australia not because the grass is greener or their is wads of cash. We want the outdoor lifestyle which is almost guaranteed by the weather. We are not materialistic. We want something better for our kids. Heaven knows there is nothing around here for them.
It might seem as if I am trying to put people off coming back here. I am not. I would go back to S.A. now if I could. This place is just not for me anymore. Just like all those folk whom don't like Australia. At least we can say we have given it a go and tried.
Australia is going to be our New South Africa and we are really looking forward to it. Good luck to all those coming back here. At least you've tried it and experienced life elsewhere. Life has its choices, we are all in the fortunate position to make them..................
Ewan and the Noisy Nutters................
P.S. Hope this makes sense, it's Saturday and well sober. :scared:
Just be mindful though (to manage your expectations!) that the heat in Australia is as disabling as the weather in the UK. The outdoor lifestyle is not guaranteed here by any means, unless you have a huge veranda! We've hardly been out in the last couple of months because it is so hot or humid or both. We've honestly spent more time in thaan we would in a British winter! The ozone layer is depleted in this part of the world and unless you are covered in clothes and sun-protection cream, you burn in minutes. Children need to stay out of the sun between 1100 and 1600 in order to be safe and comfortable. To be completely honest, we can't wait for March to come around, and have felt like that since November, the start of the fly season. That may be because we have a baby, but the Australian couples with babies that we know feel exactly the same. I love the weather from March to June, and from Sepotember to October though. But the other months are not good for weather. If I were moving here again, the ONLY place I'd consider is Melbourne, but then weather there, while milder on average, has more extreme days. (Even a Sydneysider friend of mine said "You'd have to have rocks in your head to live anywhere else in Australia except Melbourne, if you had the choice"!) You may be better adjusted to such heat, being from SA. Also as a South African, the isolation may not bother you, but that is another big issue for many ex-pats here; the isolation both within Australia and between Australia and the rest of the world. The other consideration is that Cumbria is very wet and cold (I'm a Lancashire lad). Cumbrian councils are also cash-strapped. I'd not live up that way again personally. Have you thought of the south coast?
Good luck on your move if you come this way. It's a great country and will always be our second home. We've very glad we came (but we're glad to be leaving too).
All the best, Steve
Jan 28th 2006, 10:40 pm
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Re: Alternative Viewpoint
Originally Posted by Springbok
Hi There All.........
I have read a few of the threads from folk whom are coming back to the U.K. or already have come back. People say they are nuts and mad or not thinking straight. I myself am a South African. I have lived and worked in the U.K. for 13 years now. I live in West Cumbria with 2 kids and the wife. We live an outdoors lifestyle which we enjoy. The wife is from the U.K..
The thing is I have had enough of England now and so has the wife. We are in the position to move so we are. I wish I could go back to South Africa, but I have my parents out there that say it's alright if your are a tourist but forget living there if you want to bring a family. it is dangerous, there is no work if you are white and the government are as corrupt as Robert Mugabe. I have enjoyed my time in the U.K. but in the last 3 years it just seems to me and the wife we pay for nothing. The council is continually closing kids play parks. Ask them to put a swing in an existing one and they tell us as long as we pay for it ourselves they will let us put one in. I am a chef and the quality of the trained chefs coming out of colleges is absolutely crap. Half of them can't even read let alone do anything else. No interest in what they are doing.
I am not slagging the British off but I think they have lost their way. We are going to Australia not because the grass is greener or their is wads of cash. We want the outdoor lifestyle which is almost guaranteed by the weather. We are not materialistic. We want something better for our kids. Heaven knows there is nothing around here for them.
It might seem as if I am trying to put people off coming back here. I am not. I would go back to S.A. now if I could. This place is just not for me anymore. Just like all those folk whom don't like Australia. At least we can say we have given it a go and tried.
Australia is going to be our New South Africa and we are really looking forward to it. Good luck to all those coming back here. At least you've tried it and experienced life elsewhere. Life has its choices, we are all in the fortunate position to make them..................
Ewan and the Noisy Nutters................
P.S. Hope this makes sense, it's Saturday and well sober. :scared:
I have read a few of the threads from folk whom are coming back to the U.K. or already have come back. People say they are nuts and mad or not thinking straight. I myself am a South African. I have lived and worked in the U.K. for 13 years now. I live in West Cumbria with 2 kids and the wife. We live an outdoors lifestyle which we enjoy. The wife is from the U.K..
The thing is I have had enough of England now and so has the wife. We are in the position to move so we are. I wish I could go back to South Africa, but I have my parents out there that say it's alright if your are a tourist but forget living there if you want to bring a family. it is dangerous, there is no work if you are white and the government are as corrupt as Robert Mugabe. I have enjoyed my time in the U.K. but in the last 3 years it just seems to me and the wife we pay for nothing. The council is continually closing kids play parks. Ask them to put a swing in an existing one and they tell us as long as we pay for it ourselves they will let us put one in. I am a chef and the quality of the trained chefs coming out of colleges is absolutely crap. Half of them can't even read let alone do anything else. No interest in what they are doing.
I am not slagging the British off but I think they have lost their way. We are going to Australia not because the grass is greener or their is wads of cash. We want the outdoor lifestyle which is almost guaranteed by the weather. We are not materialistic. We want something better for our kids. Heaven knows there is nothing around here for them.
It might seem as if I am trying to put people off coming back here. I am not. I would go back to S.A. now if I could. This place is just not for me anymore. Just like all those folk whom don't like Australia. At least we can say we have given it a go and tried.
Australia is going to be our New South Africa and we are really looking forward to it. Good luck to all those coming back here. At least you've tried it and experienced life elsewhere. Life has its choices, we are all in the fortunate position to make them..................
Ewan and the Noisy Nutters................
P.S. Hope this makes sense, it's Saturday and well sober. :scared:
I am also a South African married to an Englishman. I left SA in 1991 to get married in the U.K. and lived there for near on 13 years then left the U.K. in 2003 to find a better life in Brisbane Australia. Some of my reasons for wanting to leave the U.K. were mainly due to weather and lifestyle. I guess I was pining for the South African way of life but same as you felt unable to return given the problems out there.
I made a lot of very good friends in the U.K. and of course I was very close to my husband's family however I felt this innate need to escape to a 'better place' and as you say the next best thing to South Africa is Australia. Brisbane certainly has a similar climate to Durban and there is a great deal of space.
However after living in OZ for the past 2 and half years I have to put my hand on my heart and say, I really haven't been very happy here. I do enjoy having a comfortable home with pool, quiet area etc but I miss friends and family and I haven't managed to replace this. Initially when we moved here there was so much to see and do (you know that holiday feeling), but that's all over now. I'm basically really bored. We're at loss at the weekends because there is no real social connection with 'friends and family' and it is becoming increasingly deppressing. So I guess what I am trying to say is, living here may very well be for you if you're not too dependent on a 'support network' i.e. family and friends because the lifestyle is good despite being toooo hot for 3 months of the year. However it can be very isolating living so far away from loved ones and I guess your wife must have family in the U.K. I know people who just slot in and wouldn't even consider returning to the U.K. but those people generally have most of their extended family living here too.
Gosh I hope this all makes sense to you because my brain is a bit scrambled at the moment given that we are working thru making a decision to return to the U.K.
Best of luck
Jan 29th 2006, 8:01 am
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Re: Alternative Viewpoint
Each to his own, I guess. I don't blame you for moving on, if you have itchy feet, or if the UK is not for you. As you are well aware, other countries have problems - some of which are not apparent when you are looking from across the miles. Australia is no different in that respect. I hope you find what you are looking for. The chefs may be better (they may not), the local/state/federal govts may be more efficient with your taxes (they may be not) and you may find golden opportunities for your kids (you may not). All I'm saying is that the gripes you have with the UK may equally be replaced with similar gripes in Oz.
Australia is a fabulous country, with so much to offer, but it also has problems - the UK is not exclusive in that respect. Good luck with your move.
Australia is a fabulous country, with so much to offer, but it also has problems - the UK is not exclusive in that respect. Good luck with your move.
Jan 29th 2006, 8:26 am
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Re: Alternative Viewpoint
Originally Posted by PADDAD
Hello Springbok
I am also a South African married to an Englishman. I left SA in 1991 to get married in the U.K. and lived there for near on 13 years then left the U.K. in 2003 to find a better life in Brisbane Australia. Some of my reasons for wanting to leave the U.K. were mainly due to weather and lifestyle. I guess I was pining for the South African way of life but same as you felt unable to return given the problems out there.
I made a lot of very good friends in the U.K. and of course I was very close to my husband's family however I felt this innate need to escape to a 'better place' and as you say the next best thing to South Africa is Australia. Brisbane certainly has a similar climate to Durban and there is a great deal of space.
However after living in OZ for the past 2 and half years I have to put my hand on my heart and say, I really haven't been very happy here. I do enjoy having a comfortable home with pool, quiet area etc but I miss friends and family and I haven't managed to replace this. Initially when we moved here there was so much to see and do (you know that holiday feeling), but that's all over now. I'm basically really bored. We're at loss at the weekends because there is no real social connection with 'friends and family' and it is becoming increasingly deppressing.
So I guess what I am trying to say is, living here may very well be for you if you're not too dependent on a 'support network' i.e. family and friends because the lifestyle is good despite being toooo hot for 3 months of the year. However it can be very isolating living so far away from loved ones and I guess your wife must have family in the U.K. I know people who just slot in and wouldn't even consider returning to the U.K. but those people generally have most of their extended family living here too.
Gosh I hope this all makes sense to you because my brain is a bit scrambled at the moment given that we are working thru making a decision to return to the U.K.
Best of luck
I am also a South African married to an Englishman. I left SA in 1991 to get married in the U.K. and lived there for near on 13 years then left the U.K. in 2003 to find a better life in Brisbane Australia. Some of my reasons for wanting to leave the U.K. were mainly due to weather and lifestyle. I guess I was pining for the South African way of life but same as you felt unable to return given the problems out there.
I made a lot of very good friends in the U.K. and of course I was very close to my husband's family however I felt this innate need to escape to a 'better place' and as you say the next best thing to South Africa is Australia. Brisbane certainly has a similar climate to Durban and there is a great deal of space.
However after living in OZ for the past 2 and half years I have to put my hand on my heart and say, I really haven't been very happy here. I do enjoy having a comfortable home with pool, quiet area etc but I miss friends and family and I haven't managed to replace this. Initially when we moved here there was so much to see and do (you know that holiday feeling), but that's all over now. I'm basically really bored. We're at loss at the weekends because there is no real social connection with 'friends and family' and it is becoming increasingly deppressing. So I guess what I am trying to say is, living here may very well be for you if you're not too dependent on a 'support network' i.e. family and friends because the lifestyle is good despite being toooo hot for 3 months of the year. However it can be very isolating living so far away from loved ones and I guess your wife must have family in the U.K. I know people who just slot in and wouldn't even consider returning to the U.K. but those people generally have most of their extended family living here too.
Gosh I hope this all makes sense to you because my brain is a bit scrambled at the moment given that we are working thru making a decision to return to the U.K.
Best of luck
I think about some of these reasons myself. Most of my family, (except my dad) seem to miss England alot. However, my dad is really more happy in the States than all of the rest of us.
Its all to do with his social Independence. Although he is a people person being an ex Salesman and all; he also travelled alone alot. I think this is BIGG reason why he is so happy here, as asides his Parent's and a couple close friend's he had, he didn't really lose anything. Didn't really lose a social life.
Even though it seems like a small deal - leaving friends & family and missing there company so much, is the biggest reason people return home. Shouldn't be underestimated.
I say go for it anyway, there are way too many if, ands and buts involved not to now it's been considered. If you both rely on family alot and have strong friendships, with a active social life. . . I would definitely take this point into consideration.
Jan 29th 2006, 8:42 am
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Re: Alternative Viewpoint
Originally Posted by ShozInOz
Good luck springbock!
Just be mindful though (to manage your expectations!) that the heat in Australia is as disabling as the weather in the UK. The outdoor lifestyle is not guaranteed here by any means, unless you have a huge veranda! We've hardly been out in the last couple of months because it is so hot or humid or both. We've honestly spent more time in thaan we would in a British winter! The ozone layer is depleted in this part of the world and unless you are covered in clothes and sun-protection cream, you burn in minutes. Children need to stay out of the sun between 1100 and 1600 in order to be safe and comfortable. To be completely honest, we can't wait for March to come around, and have felt like that since November, the start of the fly season. That may be because we have a baby, but the Australian couples with babies that we know feel exactly the same. I love the weather from March to June, and from Sepotember to October though. But the other months are not good for weather. If I were moving here again, the ONLY place I'd consider is Melbourne, but then weather there, while milder on average, has more extreme days. (Even a Sydneysider friend of mine said "You'd have to have rocks in your head to live anywhere else in Australia except Melbourne, if you had the choice"!) You may be better adjusted to such heat, being from SA. Also as a South African, the isolation may not bother you, but that is another big issue for many ex-pats here; the isolation both within Australia and between Australia and the rest of the world. The other consideration is that Cumbria is very wet and cold (I'm a Lancashire lad). Cumbrian councils are also cash-strapped. I'd not live up that way again personally. Have you thought of the south coast?
Good luck on your move if you come this way. It's a great country and will always be our second home. We've very glad we came (but we're glad to be leaving too).
All the best, Steve
Just be mindful though (to manage your expectations!) that the heat in Australia is as disabling as the weather in the UK. The outdoor lifestyle is not guaranteed here by any means, unless you have a huge veranda! We've hardly been out in the last couple of months because it is so hot or humid or both. We've honestly spent more time in thaan we would in a British winter! The ozone layer is depleted in this part of the world and unless you are covered in clothes and sun-protection cream, you burn in minutes. Children need to stay out of the sun between 1100 and 1600 in order to be safe and comfortable. To be completely honest, we can't wait for March to come around, and have felt like that since November, the start of the fly season. That may be because we have a baby, but the Australian couples with babies that we know feel exactly the same. I love the weather from March to June, and from Sepotember to October though. But the other months are not good for weather. If I were moving here again, the ONLY place I'd consider is Melbourne, but then weather there, while milder on average, has more extreme days. (Even a Sydneysider friend of mine said "You'd have to have rocks in your head to live anywhere else in Australia except Melbourne, if you had the choice"!) You may be better adjusted to such heat, being from SA. Also as a South African, the isolation may not bother you, but that is another big issue for many ex-pats here; the isolation both within Australia and between Australia and the rest of the world. The other consideration is that Cumbria is very wet and cold (I'm a Lancashire lad). Cumbrian councils are also cash-strapped. I'd not live up that way again personally. Have you thought of the south coast?
Good luck on your move if you come this way. It's a great country and will always be our second home. We've very glad we came (but we're glad to be leaving too).
All the best, Steve
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Jan 29th 2006, 8:21 pm
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Re: Alternative Viewpoint
Originally Posted by Lord Pom Percy
but 9 months of the year the weather in fantastic, cool to mild and great for outdoors.
Jan 29th 2006, 10:31 pm
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Re: Alternative Viewpoint
Originally Posted by Lord Pom Percy
l disagree with that you " would have to have rocks in your head in live anywhere other then Melbourne"
Originally Posted by Lord Pom Percy
OZ can get a bit hot some days during the 3 months of summer when you have to wear a hat or suncream when going outdoors for a long period of time
Originally Posted by Lord Pom Percy
but 9 months of the year the weather in fantastic, cool to mild and great for outdoors.
Originally Posted by Lord Pom Percy
Regarding the Ozone layer from what l read there is no hole in the oZone layer over OZ only in Antartica.
Where do you live in Australia?
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Jan 29th 2006, 11:02 pm
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Re: Alternative Viewpoint
Originally Posted by ShozInOz
Do you live here? "A bit hot"? Only wear sunscreen when outdoor for extended periods? 10 minutes is considered too much by the Cancer Council to be outdoors without sunscreen.
Depends on the person, time of day, time of year etc.
In any case, I can't see how the sun is much more, or much less, strong in Australia compared to South Africa.
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Jan 30th 2006, 1:34 am
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Re: Alternative Viewpoint
South Africans often settle well in australia, more suited to the climate, which many english often move for then find far too hot for normal life.
Cancer council advises sunblock all year round not just summer. Protect your eyes too, theres a 7 year wait for surgery.
Cancer council advises sunblock all year round not just summer. Protect your eyes too, theres a 7 year wait for surgery.
Jan 30th 2006, 3:57 am
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Re: Alternative Viewpoint
Originally Posted by australia to canada
South Africans often settle well in australia, more suited to the climate, which many english often move for then find far too hot for normal life.
Cancer council advises sunblock all year round not just summer. Protect your eyes too, theres a 7 year wait for surgery.
Cancer council advises sunblock all year round not just summer. Protect your eyes too, theres a 7 year wait for surgery.
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Jan 30th 2006, 7:41 am
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Re: Alternative Viewpoint
Originally Posted by Lord Pom Percy
l live in OZ, l never put sunblock on, on a hot summers day l might wear a hat. People don't put on sunblock all year round,You no more need to wear sunblock in OZ during winter then you would during winter in the Uk.
Jan 30th 2006, 7:51 am
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Re: Alternative Viewpoint
Originally Posted by Mummy
So you know more than the cancer council now do you? If you never put sun block on then more fool you. People DO put sun block on all year round, and of course you need to wear sun block during winter in Oz, especially on high risk days, but extremely rarely would you need to in the UK winter. Suggesting that people do not need sun block in Australia is simply irresponsible.
Jan 30th 2006, 8:07 am
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Re: Alternative Viewpoint
Originally Posted by Lord Pom Percy
Was'nt sunblock only invented or widely used 30 or 40 years ago,If sunblock is so necessary why were'nt skin cancer rates worse in those days.