Advice about returning to England from New Zealand
Apr 30th 2017, 9:27 pm
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Re: Advice about returning to England from New Zealand
The United Kingdom (UK) has a social security agreement with New Zealand.
The following information may help you understand how your UK State Pension may be affected while you live in New Zealand or if you now live in the UK and previously lived in New Zealand.
You may have previously lived in New Zealand, but now live in the UK. Any time you (or your spouse or civil partner if you are relying on their UK National Insurance (NI) contributions) lived in New Zealand before reaching your UK State Pension age can be treated as a period for which UK NI contributions were paid. This can include:
* up to 13 weeks for the journey between the UK and New Zealand; and
* periods of absence from New Zealand, provided that during the period of absence you were:
* employed and liable to pay New Zealand Income Tax on earnings arising from that employment; and
* not living in the UK.
If you are thinking about paying voluntary UK NI contributions for any non-qualifying years in your UK NI contribution record, it will be important for you to work out how many extra qualifying years your time in New Zealand may give you.
You should note that evidence of the time you lived in New Zealand might be required to help you qualify under the provisions of the agreement.
The time you lived in New Zealand could be confirmed by:
* tax certificates, employers' references, wage slips, travel documents, etc; or
* letters from two people, who can be friends or relatives.
Evidence of the time you lived in New Zealand should be kept until a claim for UK State Pension or UK benefits is made in the UK.
If the UK residence provisions do not allow you to get a full rate of UK State Pension, you may be entitled to get the full rate provided:
* you were getting New Zealand Superannuation when you were last living in New Zealand;
* it was awarded solely under the New Zealand scheme; and
* you are over your UK State Pension age.
If you move to live outside the UK, any UK State Pension awarded under the provisions of the agreement will no longer be payable. Your UK State Pension will be reduced to the amount payable when based solely on your UK NI contribution record.
Effect of the agreement on entitlement to New Zealand Superannuation
If you live in New Zealand, the agreement may help you to qualify for New Zealand Superannuation when you have reached pension age in New Zealand by allowing you to treat the time you lived in the UK as time in New Zealand
The following information may help you understand how your UK State Pension may be affected while you live in New Zealand or if you now live in the UK and previously lived in New Zealand.
You may have previously lived in New Zealand, but now live in the UK. Any time you (or your spouse or civil partner if you are relying on their UK National Insurance (NI) contributions) lived in New Zealand before reaching your UK State Pension age can be treated as a period for which UK NI contributions were paid. This can include:
* up to 13 weeks for the journey between the UK and New Zealand; and
* periods of absence from New Zealand, provided that during the period of absence you were:
* employed and liable to pay New Zealand Income Tax on earnings arising from that employment; and
* not living in the UK.
If you are thinking about paying voluntary UK NI contributions for any non-qualifying years in your UK NI contribution record, it will be important for you to work out how many extra qualifying years your time in New Zealand may give you.
You should note that evidence of the time you lived in New Zealand might be required to help you qualify under the provisions of the agreement.
The time you lived in New Zealand could be confirmed by:
* tax certificates, employers' references, wage slips, travel documents, etc; or
* letters from two people, who can be friends or relatives.
Evidence of the time you lived in New Zealand should be kept until a claim for UK State Pension or UK benefits is made in the UK.
If the UK residence provisions do not allow you to get a full rate of UK State Pension, you may be entitled to get the full rate provided:
* you were getting New Zealand Superannuation when you were last living in New Zealand;
* it was awarded solely under the New Zealand scheme; and
* you are over your UK State Pension age.
If you move to live outside the UK, any UK State Pension awarded under the provisions of the agreement will no longer be payable. Your UK State Pension will be reduced to the amount payable when based solely on your UK NI contribution record.
Effect of the agreement on entitlement to New Zealand Superannuation
If you live in New Zealand, the agreement may help you to qualify for New Zealand Superannuation when you have reached pension age in New Zealand by allowing you to treat the time you lived in the UK as time in New Zealand
May 8th 2017, 9:49 pm
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Re: Advice about returning to England from New Zealand
Hi I have lived in Nz for 22 years and originally come from Kent. My partner is from Yorkshire and has only been in NZ for 18 months and is very homesick. We are heading back to the uk at the end of the month for a holiday and catch up of family and friends. But we are also gong back to have a open minded look at living back there. We are looking at Lincoln as we have done the rural life and city life and want a bit of both. We have my 83 year old mum coming with us so it's needs to be a nice area wherever we move to. Any thoughts about that area would be great, plus any info on pensions (not there yet!) as I have been out of the uk since 1995. And any other stuff that might help? Cheers in advance
May 9th 2017, 5:10 am
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Re: Advice about returning to England from New Zealand
Hi I have lived in Nz for 22 years and originally come from Kent. My partner is from Yorkshire and has only been in NZ for 18 months and is very homesick. We are heading back to the uk at the end of the month for a holiday and catch up of family and friends. But we are also gong back to have a open minded look at living back there. We are looking at Lincoln as we have done the rural life and city life and want a bit of both. We have my 83 year old mum coming with us so it's needs to be a nice area wherever we move to. Any thoughts about that area would be great, plus any info on pensions (not there yet!) as I have been out of the uk since 1995. And any other stuff that might help? Cheers in advance
and some answers can be found there, may make your life easier. Hope you and your husband can work out where best to live.
May 9th 2017, 6:26 am
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Re: Advice about returning to England from New Zealand
Ok cool thank you and my "husband" is my wife lol
May 10th 2017, 6:44 am
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Re: Advice about returning to England from New Zealand
Yes it's Sally from nz haha
May 10th 2017, 8:18 pm
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Re: Advice about returning to England from New Zealand
In nz it's nothing new as nz was the first country in the world to allow same sex couples to legally marry.
May 11th 2017, 1:04 am
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Re: Advice about returning to England from New Zealand
It's embarrassing and offensive and as a citizen I apologise on the country's behalf.
May 11th 2017, 1:34 am
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It's funny how different that the two countries are one very open and forward thinking in so many things yet the closest country to nz is Australia and they are stuck in the 50's so it seems in many things. As for apologies don't worry that's why I only visit Melbourne in oz and live in nz haha
May 11th 2017, 1:40 am
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Re: Advice about returning to England from New Zealand
Don't worry about it I got married to von last September and I'm still getting use to calling her my wife � ���� lol
May 25th 2017, 8:44 pm
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Re: Advice about returning to England from New Zealand
The United Kingdom (UK) has a social security agreement with New Zealand.
The following information may help you understand how your UK State Pension may be affected while you live in New Zealand or if you now live in the UK and previously lived in New Zealand.
You may have previously lived in New Zealand, but now live in the UK. Any time you (or your spouse or civil partner if you are relying on their UK National Insurance (NI) contributions) lived in New Zealand before reaching your UK State Pension age can be treated as a period for which UK NI contributions were paid. This can include:
* up to 13 weeks for the journey between the UK and New Zealand; and
* periods of absence from New Zealand, provided that during the period of absence you were:
* employed and liable to pay New Zealand Income Tax on earnings arising from that employment; and
* not living in the UK.
If you are thinking about paying voluntary UK NI contributions for any non-qualifying years in your UK NI contribution record, it will be important for you to work out how many extra qualifying years your time in New Zealand may give you.
You should note that evidence of the time you lived in New Zealand might be required to help you qualify under the provisions of the agreement.
The time you lived in New Zealand could be confirmed by:
* tax certificates, employers' references, wage slips, travel documents, etc; or
* letters from two people, who can be friends or relatives.
Evidence of the time you lived in New Zealand should be kept until a claim for UK State Pension or UK benefits is made in the UK.
If the UK residence provisions do not allow you to get a full rate of UK State Pension, you may be entitled to get the full rate provided:
* you were getting New Zealand Superannuation when you were last living in New Zealand;
* it was awarded solely under the New Zealand scheme; and
* you are over your UK State Pension age.
If you move to live outside the UK, any UK State Pension awarded under the provisions of the agreement will no longer be payable. Your UK State Pension will be reduced to the amount payable when based solely on your UK NI contribution record.
Effect of the agreement on entitlement to New Zealand Superannuation
If you live in New Zealand, the agreement may help you to qualify for New Zealand Superannuation when you have reached pension age in New Zealand by allowing you to treat the time you lived in the UK as time in New Zealand
The following information may help you understand how your UK State Pension may be affected while you live in New Zealand or if you now live in the UK and previously lived in New Zealand.
You may have previously lived in New Zealand, but now live in the UK. Any time you (or your spouse or civil partner if you are relying on their UK National Insurance (NI) contributions) lived in New Zealand before reaching your UK State Pension age can be treated as a period for which UK NI contributions were paid. This can include:
* up to 13 weeks for the journey between the UK and New Zealand; and
* periods of absence from New Zealand, provided that during the period of absence you were:
* employed and liable to pay New Zealand Income Tax on earnings arising from that employment; and
* not living in the UK.
If you are thinking about paying voluntary UK NI contributions for any non-qualifying years in your UK NI contribution record, it will be important for you to work out how many extra qualifying years your time in New Zealand may give you.
You should note that evidence of the time you lived in New Zealand might be required to help you qualify under the provisions of the agreement.
The time you lived in New Zealand could be confirmed by:
* tax certificates, employers' references, wage slips, travel documents, etc; or
* letters from two people, who can be friends or relatives.
Evidence of the time you lived in New Zealand should be kept until a claim for UK State Pension or UK benefits is made in the UK.
If the UK residence provisions do not allow you to get a full rate of UK State Pension, you may be entitled to get the full rate provided:
* you were getting New Zealand Superannuation when you were last living in New Zealand;
* it was awarded solely under the New Zealand scheme; and
* you are over your UK State Pension age.
If you move to live outside the UK, any UK State Pension awarded under the provisions of the agreement will no longer be payable. Your UK State Pension will be reduced to the amount payable when based solely on your UK NI contribution record.
Effect of the agreement on entitlement to New Zealand Superannuation
If you live in New Zealand, the agreement may help you to qualify for New Zealand Superannuation when you have reached pension age in New Zealand by allowing you to treat the time you lived in the UK as time in New Zealand
Thank you for this information. I have lived in New Zealand for nearly 25 years though will be returning in November. I understand from the information you provide that the period i have lived in NZ will be treated as a period for which UK NI contributions were paid as long as i provide evidence of the time i have lived in NZ. Please can you confirm that my understanding is correct and what i need to do to upon my return to the UK Thanks Liam
