Working as a Senior Recruitment Consultant in Dubai?
Mar 17th 2011, 9:48 am
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Re: Working as a Senior Recruitment Consultant in Dubai?
I knew we'd end up here it was inevitable . Look , you seem like a bright Lad , a lot of people on this forum know an awful lot about recruitment agents and recruitment agencies. They're not the most liked professions in this part of the world as a lot of people have been sold a dud deal some time or another and when you mess folks around on major issues they get a bit uptight.
I've been involved with them as an Employer and Employee for over 20 years and i'll only ever use or recommend no more than 5 individuals. The Gulf is full of Senior Recruiters / Head Hunters and Associated Directors or whatever the latest bullshit buzzword they want to call themselves and most of them are total shite.
I could go on on , dummy jobs , crap candidates , piss poor communication , extortionate fees , unprofessional service .......
That's me done ...............
I've been involved with them as an Employer and Employee for over 20 years and i'll only ever use or recommend no more than 5 individuals. The Gulf is full of Senior Recruiters / Head Hunters and Associated Directors or whatever the latest bullshit buzzword they want to call themselves and most of them are total shite.
I could go on on , dummy jobs , crap candidates , piss poor communication , extortionate fees , unprofessional service .......
That's me done ...............
The frustrating thing is I cannot possibly disagree with you.
But, there is a reason the businesses still use them, they are a necessary evil in the cases above or can be a useful provider.
Mar 17th 2011, 10:02 am
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Re: Working as a Senior Recruitment Consultant in Dubai?
So what exams do you take and qualifications required to become a Senior Recruitment Consultant? Just curious.
Mar 17th 2011, 10:13 am
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Re: Working as a Senior Recruitment Consultant in Dubai?
I've placed people into senior roles in major organisations who have no qualifications at all and have progressed by coming up through the tools.
Happy to tell you what I've got and you can poke fun at it or accept it, either way - water off a duck's bat. I'm only in this thread because I don't with to be called scum or lower than the low because of what other people in this industry have done.
Mar 17th 2011, 10:13 am
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Re: Working as a Senior Recruitment Consultant in Dubai?
all these fancy and psh titles like senior and associate and director is crap
there are no quals required - personally, when i interview recruiters i would like to see they have some sort of accademics / degree but its not a deal breaker - the key thing is good communication and someone who is down to earth (and thick skinned)
this job is not rocket science - its such an obvious and logical job but its amazing how many people get it wrong
Mar 17th 2011, 10:35 am
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Re: Working as a Senior Recruitment Consultant in Dubai?
I don't understand what relevance that has?
I've placed people into senior roles in major organisations who have no qualifications at all and have progressed by coming up through the tools.
Happy to tell you what I've got and you can poke fun at it or accept it, either way - water off a duck's bat. I'm only in this thread because I don't with to be called scum or lower than the low because of what other people in this industry have done.
I've placed people into senior roles in major organisations who have no qualifications at all and have progressed by coming up through the tools.
Happy to tell you what I've got and you can poke fun at it or accept it, either way - water off a duck's bat. I'm only in this thread because I don't with to be called scum or lower than the low because of what other people in this industry have done.
Mar 17th 2011, 10:57 am
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Mar 17th 2011, 11:03 am
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Re: Working as a Senior Recruitment Consultant in Dubai?
The debate has been going on since long before this thread, and will continue long after it. There are three simple reasons why many of us don't have a high level of respect for recruiters (and the reasons--and the caveat further below--apply equally to the respect we have for estate agents):
1 Its not a profession, despite many in that line of work believing it to be and promoting it as such.
2 The vast majority of its practitioners behave like charlatans.
3 We need to use them from time to time.
Caveat: There are some good ones out there, but they are vastly outnumbered by the mediocre and worse.
1 Its not a profession, despite many in that line of work believing it to be and promoting it as such.
2 The vast majority of its practitioners behave like charlatans.
3 We need to use them from time to time.
Caveat: There are some good ones out there, but they are vastly outnumbered by the mediocre and worse.
Mar 17th 2011, 11:07 am
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Re: Working as a Senior Recruitment Consultant in Dubai?
The debate has been going on since long before this thread, and will continue long after it. There are three simple reasons why many of us don't have a high level of respect for recruiters (and the reasons--and the caveat further below--apply equally to the respect we have for estate agents):
1 Its not a profession, despite many in that line of work believing it to be and promoting it as such.
2 The vast majority of its practitioners behave like charlatans.
3 We need to use them from time to time.
Caveat: There are some good ones out there, but they are vastly outnumbered by the mediocre and worse.
1 Its not a profession, despite many in that line of work believing it to be and promoting it as such.
2 The vast majority of its practitioners behave like charlatans.
3 We need to use them from time to time.
Caveat: There are some good ones out there, but they are vastly outnumbered by the mediocre and worse.
Mar 17th 2011, 11:08 am
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Re: Working as a Senior Recruitment Consultant in Dubai?
Recruitment Consultants (Senior, Associate, Director, Principal, Vice President, or even 'Deputy Acting Assistant Chief Recruitment Consultant') fail to realise, that today's Senior Appointment will be Tomorrow's Client! - It's two way street!
One day they are all over you (like a rash), with expressions such as "This job has got your name on it!" - And then 'Disappear Completely!'
One day they are all over you (like a rash), with expressions such as "This job has got your name on it!" - And then 'Disappear Completely!'
Mar 17th 2011, 11:10 am
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Re: Working as a Senior Recruitment Consultant in Dubai?
No. A job doesn't become a profession merely because you do it well. (Just as a profession doesn't cease to be one merely because you do it badly.)
Mar 17th 2011, 11:12 am
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Re: Working as a Senior Recruitment Consultant in Dubai?
I don't understand what relevance that has?
I've placed people into senior roles in major organisations who have no qualifications at all and have progressed by coming up through the tools.
Happy to tell you what I've got and you can poke fun at it or accept it, either way - water off a duck's bat. I'm only in this thread because I don't with to be called scum or lower than the low because of what other people in this industry have done.
I've placed people into senior roles in major organisations who have no qualifications at all and have progressed by coming up through the tools.
Happy to tell you what I've got and you can poke fun at it or accept it, either way - water off a duck's bat. I'm only in this thread because I don't with to be called scum or lower than the low because of what other people in this industry have done.
Mar 17th 2011, 11:21 am
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Re: Working as a Senior Recruitment Consultant in Dubai?
recruitment companies are turning over hunderds of thousands GBP which is demonstrable evidence that it is a profitable line of business which is adding some value and making a profit.
we will have to agree to disagree on this one
Mar 17th 2011, 11:25 am
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Re: Working as a Senior Recruitment Consultant in Dubai?
if you look hard enough you may get some recruiter in the UAE who can promise you all that and more if you send across your CV.
Mar 17th 2011, 11:37 am
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Re: Working as a Senior Recruitment Consultant in Dubai?
The debate has been going on since long before this thread, and will continue long after it. There are three simple reasons why many of us don't have a high level of respect for recruiters (and the reasons--and the caveat further below--apply equally to the respect we have for estate agents):
1 Its not a profession, despite many in that line of work believing it to be and promoting it as such.
2 The vast majority of its practitioners behave like charlatans.
3 We need to use them from time to time.
Caveat: There are some good ones out there, but they are vastly outnumbered by the mediocre and worse.
1 Its not a profession, despite many in that line of work believing it to be and promoting it as such.
2 The vast majority of its practitioners behave like charlatans.
3 We need to use them from time to time.
Caveat: There are some good ones out there, but they are vastly outnumbered by the mediocre and worse.
2. Won't argue with that, not much point...
3. Differs from industry to industry and between their various sectors as to how frequently they are needed, but recruiters and head hunters are and will always be needed.