UK child benefit and working for UK company abroad
Jun 24th 2009, 4:16 am
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UK child benefit and working for UK company abroad
Just wanted to ask people who are coming from UK with the kids to work here, in U.A.E, for UK based company. Are the kids still etitled to receiving Child benefit (as the parents were moved by the UK based company abroad) or the payment will be stopped from the moment the kids are leaving UK?
thanks for any info
thanks for any info
Jun 24th 2009, 4:23 am
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Re: UK child benefit and working for UK company abroad
Just wanted to ask people who are coming from UK with the kids to work here, in U.A.E, for UK based company. Are the kids still etitled to receiving Child benefit (as the parents were moved by the UK based company abroad) or the payment will be stopped from the moment the kids are leaving UK?
thanks for any info
thanks for any info
Jun 24th 2009, 4:24 am
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Re: UK child benefit and working for UK company abroad
in short, no
Jun 24th 2009, 5:35 am
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Re: UK child benefit and working for UK company abroad
You cannot receive a UK benefit if you become non-resident and are no longer paying into the system.
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Jun 24th 2009, 6:06 am
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Re: UK child benefit and working for UK company abroad
Just wanted to ask people who are coming from UK with the kids to work here, in U.A.E, for UK based company. Are the kids still etitled to receiving Child benefit (as the parents were moved by the UK based company abroad) or the payment will be stopped from the moment the kids are leaving UK?
thanks for any info
thanks for any info
Jun 24th 2009, 8:02 am
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Re: UK child benefit and working for UK company abroad
Why do people think they should be entitled to a state benefit when you are not living in a country and no longer contributing to the system?? 
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Jun 24th 2009, 8:18 am
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Re: UK child benefit and working for UK company abroad
no comment...
Jun 24th 2009, 9:13 am
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Re: UK child benefit and working for UK company abroad
ah, now this is something I have actually got my head around!
You are entitled to Child Benefit and the Tax credits *if* you are a UK resident *as long as* you are out of the country for no longer than 8 weeks (at a time). You have to tell them if you are out of the country for longer in which case, upon your return, they ask you to fill in an "entering the country" form asking you to justify why you were away, where you were and what you were doing.
If you have filled in your P85 declaring yourself non-resident then you aren't entitled to anything, although I guess you could stretch it to the 8 week mark. Rest assured that the various departments don't talk to eachother, but when you try to catch up on matters, general confusion reigns for months.
As for Tax Credits, you have to be a UK Resident for Tax purposes in order to claim - regardless of whether you're working or not. This creates a very interesting loop-hole in that one partner can be non-resident and earning tax-free and the other, resident and not earning... and the TC people really don't want to know anything about the non-resident partner or his/her tax-free earnings. Strange but true. I've spent the last 5 months getting to the bottom of this, including numerous phone calls to them going "listen... are you SURE?!"
PM me if you would like me to explain my situation, what I did and what the outcome has been.
You are entitled to Child Benefit and the Tax credits *if* you are a UK resident *as long as* you are out of the country for no longer than 8 weeks (at a time). You have to tell them if you are out of the country for longer in which case, upon your return, they ask you to fill in an "entering the country" form asking you to justify why you were away, where you were and what you were doing.
If you have filled in your P85 declaring yourself non-resident then you aren't entitled to anything, although I guess you could stretch it to the 8 week mark. Rest assured that the various departments don't talk to eachother, but when you try to catch up on matters, general confusion reigns for months.
As for Tax Credits, you have to be a UK Resident for Tax purposes in order to claim - regardless of whether you're working or not. This creates a very interesting loop-hole in that one partner can be non-resident and earning tax-free and the other, resident and not earning... and the TC people really don't want to know anything about the non-resident partner or his/her tax-free earnings. Strange but true. I've spent the last 5 months getting to the bottom of this, including numerous phone calls to them going "listen... are you SURE?!"
PM me if you would like me to explain my situation, what I did and what the outcome has been.
Last edited by Hello.Kitty; Jun 24th 2009 at 9:15 am.
Jun 24th 2009, 9:24 am
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Re: UK child benefit and working for UK company abroad
ah, now this is something I have actually got my head around!
You are entitled to Child Benefit and the Tax credits *if* you are a UK resident *as long as* you are out of the country for no longer than 8 weeks (at a time). You have to tell them if you are out of the country for longer in which case, upon your return, they ask you to fill in an "entering the country" form asking you to justify why you were away, where you were and what you were doing.
If you have filled in your P85 declaring yourself non-resident then you aren't entitled to anything, although I guess you could stretch it to the 8 week mark. Rest assured that the various departments don't talk to eachother, but when you try to catch up on matters, general confusion reigns for months.
As for Tax Credits, you have to be a UK Resident for Tax purposes in order to claim - regardless of whether you're working or not. This creates a very interesting loop-hole in that one partner can be non-resident and earning tax-free and the other, resident and not earning... and the TC people really don't want to know anything about the non-resident partner or his/her tax-free earnings. Strange but true. I've spent the last 5 months getting to the bottom of this, including numerous phone calls to them going "listen... are you SURE?!"
PM me if you would like me to explain my situation, what I did and what the outcome has been.
You are entitled to Child Benefit and the Tax credits *if* you are a UK resident *as long as* you are out of the country for no longer than 8 weeks (at a time). You have to tell them if you are out of the country for longer in which case, upon your return, they ask you to fill in an "entering the country" form asking you to justify why you were away, where you were and what you were doing.
If you have filled in your P85 declaring yourself non-resident then you aren't entitled to anything, although I guess you could stretch it to the 8 week mark. Rest assured that the various departments don't talk to eachother, but when you try to catch up on matters, general confusion reigns for months.
As for Tax Credits, you have to be a UK Resident for Tax purposes in order to claim - regardless of whether you're working or not. This creates a very interesting loop-hole in that one partner can be non-resident and earning tax-free and the other, resident and not earning... and the TC people really don't want to know anything about the non-resident partner or his/her tax-free earnings. Strange but true. I've spent the last 5 months getting to the bottom of this, including numerous phone calls to them going "listen... are you SURE?!"
PM me if you would like me to explain my situation, what I did and what the outcome has been.
Hello Kitty......I was hoping you would have your hands full by now....??
The above scenario would only help those with underschool age methinks as I presume the kids would have to be back in UK also?
Jun 24th 2009, 10:36 am
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Re: UK child benefit and working for UK company abroad
Let me get it right...you are getting CHB not on a basis that you contribute to NI or Tax?? A lot of women in UK get it and they have even never gone to work...as well as fathers of the children
Jun 24th 2009, 10:56 am
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Re: UK child benefit and working for UK company abroad
Do read the thread properly. -
Jun 24th 2009, 11:53 am
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Re: UK child benefit and working for UK company abroad
Did not mean YOU..."People are getting CHB".....
Jun 24th 2009, 12:19 pm
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Re: UK child benefit and working for UK company abroad
Hello.Kitty is correct - that's how it is
Jun 24th 2009, 12:42 pm
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Re: UK child benefit and working for UK company abroad
when my kids were 'of that age' loads of people we knew claimed benefits for their kids while living overseas - all seemed a bit wierd to me but that's just me. Both mine were born overseas so the whole process of getting them registered into the system wasn't worth the payment. Didn't need the money that badly TBH.
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