klaus3974

Everything is a potential threat in this country... so I think the keep an eye on everything and everyone...

http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/mobile/...ex.html?hpt=T2

kittycat1

I always thoought DH stood for my dick of a husband- no?

csdf

I think you're confusing form over function.

kittycat1

Norm_uk

Given that the UK has over 60 million people it's probably not statistically significant that there were more fatalities on the road in the year following the train and bus attacks where something like 30 people died.

More people died in a single month on the UAE roads than died in the train and bus attacks on London....

N.

TGFKASE

I worked in the West End of London in the early 90's during the IRA bombing blitz they had.....

I worked in Saudi from 2001 - 2006, starting there a month before 9/11...

Here is a piece of piss, quite frankly..


PS. Ronnie, my Mrs won't watch The Kingdom. Ever since I said it was a pretty good portayal of life in Saudi at that time...

csdf

I know what you mean, but I believe I read that the increase was statistically significant and specifically related to London (with a lower population).

[start pseudo-statistic wafflery]
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2778797/ suggests that the avoidance of public transport was clinically significant. Not sure if this in turn implies that the increase in car accidents related to avoidance of public transport would also be significant.

[/end pseudo-statistic wafflery]

kittycat1

but weren't there more accidents on the roads with cyclists straight after the tube bombings as everyone jumped on their bikes rather than use public transport- I know this as I was driving in London at the time and had near misses with psycho cyclists pretty much on a daily basis!

TGFKASE

Is there another kind???

(Cue Commander!!!)

Norm_uk

Indeed...Greater London's population interestingly is about the same size as the entire UAE. Am sure the accident rates in London don't even get close to what they are in Dubai alone....

N.

made in manchester

Certainly an interesting question, although I have to say having moved here only 8 weeks ago (so limited exp so far) I generally feel safer here than at home. I have no fear of being set upon as I walk home from the local and having my head caved in by a gang of mindless idiots. Nor do I fear a trip to the shops where I am continuously harassed by the same mindless idiots or homeless smack heads (I have no problem with the homeless who genuinely need help, and i think more should be done to help them)

As far as the terror situation I figure we are at risk where ever we are these days, just a little common sense can minimise that risk.

I do originate from Salford so you can understand the mindless idiot situation 99% of people from salford are the salt of the earth shame about the other 1%

co durham boy

That's not even relative , you're now living in a socially engineered society which has zero relation from the culture that you have just come from.

Don't think it's crime free in this part of the world , you've got it all here , you just got lucky because your ethnically higher up the ladder...!

commander

Cycling is not for everyone, granted. saying that in 2 years it has dropped me 4 inches around the waist and over 15KG's.

Still, ill not get upset at Kitty's continual attempt at belittling cyclists.Im sure its something she aspires to deep down.

kittycat1

honestly I'm not belittling cyclists, I like cycling -a nice shopper cycling througha park on a summers day is lovely, although am not very steady or confident on ones that aren't fixed to the gym floor. May have something to do with nearly getting hit by a bus as a kid when it overtook me with only a teeny gap- scared the crap out of me! I used to love bmxing though, although didn't have any special tricks other than bunny hops.

My problems are based on my experiences,

1) cyclists in london cut you up and kick your car and generally ride like lunatics who have a blatant disregard for the rules of the road. (whether you are driving or a pedestrian- cyclists verge on being a menace)
2) I am sure cyclists in London have several near misses on pretty much a daily basis so am sure its not that safe
3)cyclist couriers are plainly mad
4)bums in lycra are distracting

So see I don't hate cyclists you just take me all wrong!

commander

aww bless, well i am not a commuter cyclist and i wouldnt live in London if you paid me.

I ride in big groups in the country (or desert here). Why dont you get some designer spandex looked out and we'll take you for a group ride