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So it's claimed that $72.563 billion worth of projects are on hold in Dubai

Old Feb 2nd 2009, 10:11 am
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"A list of project cancellations and delays of properties in Dubai, which has been emailed to Kipp on at least three occasions, has caused a stir among the emirate’s expatriates.

If the list is accurate, then approximately $72.563 billion worth of projects are on hold, and $3.275 billion have been cancelled."



Full article here: http://www.kippreport.com/kipp/2009/...ist-of-losers/
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yes I got a copy of that the other day too
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The list does say Meydan has been cancelled though...

It also doesn't list several big projects which were announced but never got off the ground.

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The Meydan racecourse project is cancelled?? What - for ever??

So the Exiles and BC's beloved Country Club could have been spared???
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so that does mean my penthouse on the burj will be finished then...
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What does "On hold" mean? That they'll get round to it in a few months or that they are still waiting before they cancel so they can keep deposits etc?
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The Meydan racecourse project is cancelled?? What - for ever??

So the Exiles and BC's beloved Country Club could have been spared???
i'm not sure what this means, because i know that it's not the whole project that is cancelled...there are some new projects just about to be launched that are defo going ahead...

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I'm just about to attach a copy of that list and e-mail it to Piers Moron........
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The Meydan racecourse project is cancelled?? What - for ever??

So the Exiles and BC's beloved Country Club could have been spared???
from what I can understand/have been told is that the racecourse is going ahead but the land that took from the country club is on 'hold'. Furious or what!
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yes jumeirah gradens should be on there . that would add at least another US100 million to the figure ( that is how much they went to the overseas banks in loans for) .it is on indefinite hold at the moment. the developer apparently hasnt paid any of the consultants (including one architect is apparently owed in the region of £30million and one of the engineering consultants in excess of £6 million and another £2million)
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i'm not sure what this means, because i know that it's not the whole project that is cancelled...there are some new projects just about to be launched that are defo going ahead...

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I notice that a high proportion of those projects are Nakheel jobbies.

It may come to a head sooner rather than later - in December this year USD 3.52 billion of sukuk bonds are due to be repaid by Nakheel to investors, with a further USD 750 million in Jan 2011.

If you're confident they'll be able to meet the first of those obligations, buy the sukuk, and hold it to maturity (only about ten months away) - if they repay in full, you'll have earned a return of about 35 percent p.a.........

........... which, in an era of virtually-zero USD interest rates, gives you some idea of how risky the market thinks lending to Nakheel now is...........

Of course, they may have delayed those projects to ensure they have enough cash to repay the sukuk in December........... yeah, right...........
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Originally Posted by Autonomy
"A list of project cancellations and delays of properties in Dubai, which has been emailed to Kipp on at least three occasions, has caused a stir among the emirate’s expatriates.

If the list is accurate, then approximately $72.563 billion worth of projects are on hold, and $3.275 billion have been cancelled."

http://www.kippreport.com/projectcan...ncellation.jpg

Full article here: http://www.kippreport.com/kipp/2009/...ist-of-losers/
I bet that you can still buy property for the above residential schemes on the secondary market, a quick google search pulled up flats for sale in Trump tower (ok, not cancelled but clearly postponed), who would pay 18M AED for that?
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Originally Posted by Autonomy
"A list of project cancellations and delays of properties in Dubai, which has been emailed to Kipp on at least three occasions, has caused a stir among the emirate’s expatriates.

If the list is accurate, then approximately $72.563 billion worth of projects are on hold, and $3.275 billion have been cancelled."

http://www.kippreport.com/projectcan...ncellation.jpg

Full article here: http://www.kippreport.com/kipp/2009/...ist-of-losers/
I can add 1.6 billion for DMCC cancelled projects and several more for Nakheel and Limitless adding upto at least a further 3 billion
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Default Re: So it's claimed that $72.563 billion worth of projects are on hold in Dubai

The source of that list may be very official.

According to a (usually reliable) contact:

the document looks like it came from the Real Estate Regulatory Authority.
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