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Sara_N Jul 17th 2018 9:55 am

Sending money to the UK
 
Hi
We are moving to Abu dhabi and want to know if it is possible to send money to the UK monthly to cover some costs without taxes etc. Whats the best way of doing this, which companies etc
help would be much appreciated

reddiva Jul 17th 2018 10:54 am

Re: Sending money to the UK
 

Originally Posted by Sara_N (Post 12534148)
Hi
We are moving to Abu dhabi and want to know if it is possible to send money to the UK monthly to cover some costs without taxes etc. Whats the best way of doing this, which companies etc
help would be much appreciated

I do mine via my bank the (HSBC) all done online for a small fee ( banks charge different amounts though) Unless you plan on going into and staying the UK for more than 90 days within a tax year then you shouldn't be taxed on this

Don63 Jul 18th 2018 7:20 pm

Re: Sending money to the UK
 
As per above, HSBC are excellent with on line banking when done via International Transfers. They charge 150 AED per transaction and convert to GBP easily as an "on the spot transaction". From experience, if you get your transaction complete by 10am UAE time it hits the UK bank in GBP in the afternoon (Mon-Thurs). Only draw back is that for this to happen the receiving bank must be listed in the HSBC UAE database which you set up beforehand as the receiving bank. Failing this UAE Exchange provide a service but they are a separate entity to HSBC.

Millhouse Jul 19th 2018 4:06 am

Re: Sending money to the UK
 
You guys are throwing money away if using HSBC online transfers.

The small fee isn’t where you lose the money. It’ll be the god awful rates they provide.

Go to a proper broker or uae exchange. Might be a bit slower but could be 10pct different in rates.

As for tax... sending money has no correlation to your UK tax liability. Get proper tax advice.

Taz786 Jul 19th 2018 11:31 am

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I use UAE exchange just for the fact their rate is better than banks and transfer fee is AED 50.

Depending on the amount you're willing to transfer, you can even negotiate a better rate than displayed by speaking to the branch manager.

Millhouse Jul 19th 2018 12:44 pm

Re: Sending money to the UK
 

Originally Posted by Taz786 (Post 12535494)
I use UAE exchange just for the fact their rate is better than banks and transfer fee is AED 50.

Depending on the amount you're willing to transfer, you can even negotiate a better rate than displayed by speaking to the branch manager.

Good to see you took my advice.

archie159 Aug 7th 2018 12:48 pm

Re: Sending money to the UK
 
MoneyCorp (who I have used for years), MoneyMover (who I have not yet used, but recently created an account with). Both have a few set-up hurdles (identity, addresses etc) but after that are dead easy, can do from your computer, and usually comfortably beat the banks on rates.

newbieLondon Aug 10th 2018 9:11 pm

Re: Sending money to the UK
 
After much research I found UAE Exchange is best in terms of ease (now online possible) and exchange rates. They charge 45 AED per transaction plus £15 in the U.K. bank (my account is in HSBC).

scot47 Aug 11th 2018 3:19 pm

Re: Sending money to the UK
 
So you save 45 Dirhams.

Norm_uk Aug 19th 2018 6:18 pm

Re: Sending money to the UK
 

Originally Posted by scot47 (Post 12546837)
So you save 45 Dirhams.

The exchange rate itself is usually where the most savings are made rather than the transfer fee.

N.

Standanista Aug 20th 2018 4:31 am

Re: Sending money to the UK
 
Don't use the banks as their rates are rip off. I withdraw my dirhams in cash then go with UAE Exchange.

Millhouse Aug 20th 2018 4:49 am

Re: Sending money to the UK
 

Originally Posted by Standanista (Post 12551299)
Don't use the banks as their rates are rip off. I withdraw my dirhams in cash then go with UAE Exchange.

they will take a cheque and still give you the same rate.

scot47 Aug 20th 2018 2:45 pm

Re: Sending money to the UK
 
Tou can be caught with a tax liability if you are only out of the Uk foir a short period. Get advice.

ariskar Sep 19th 2019 3:34 pm

Re: Sending money to the UK
 
Guys, what is your experience with HSBC Global View Transfers?
(only available to Premier and Advance customers)

They advertise them as instant and with 0 fees.

How are HSBC exchange rates for Premier custormers with Global View (for transfer between their HSBC Premier accounts in two countries: UK & UAE)?

Millhouse Sep 19th 2019 4:17 pm

Re: Sending money to the UK
 

Originally Posted by ariskar (Post 12737349)
Guys, what is your experience with HSBC Global View Transfers?
(only available to Premier and Advance customers)

They advertise them as instant and with 0 fees.

How are HSBC exchange rates for Premier custormers with Global View (for transfer between their HSBC Premier accounts in two countries: UK & UAE)?

Ain’t no higher fee than a zero fee deal.

ariskar Sep 19th 2019 4:21 pm

Re: Sending money to the UK
 

Originally Posted by Millhouse (Post 12737371)


Ain’t no higher fee than a zero fee deal.

Ahoy buddy, I was mainly asking about the exchange rates of HSBC Global View compared to exchange shops.

Are the global view FX rates worse (as I expect) than the exchange shops and if so, is any difference significant (%)?

weasel decentral Sep 20th 2019 5:16 am

Re: Sending money to the UK
 

Originally Posted by ariskar (Post 12737373)
Ahoy buddy, I was mainly asking about the exchange rates of HSBC Global View compared to exchange shops.

Are the global view FX rates worse (as I expect) than the exchange shops and if so, is any difference significant (%)?

You can check their rates online surely - of course they will be worse than the market rate.

GolfGardener Sep 24th 2019 6:02 pm

Re: Sending money to the UK
 
HSBC rates are terrible. I understand they are also negotiable, especially for large sums, but it's probably better to go to somebody who offers you a sensible rate in the first place rather than going through that. i.e. the exchange houses in the malls or specialist currency exchange firms.

ariskar Sep 27th 2019 1:33 pm

Re: Sending money to the UK
 

Originally Posted by LouisKiddy (Post 12740891)
I use Revlout App but not sure if it works in UAE.

Revolut has a mail list for early access to UAE services. They haven't opened it up yet.

Taz786 Sep 29th 2019 6:12 am

Re: Sending money to the UK
 
I've been using UAE exchange till now but informed on Currency Fair app recently. Need to make my next transfer around 31st Oct so may move to Currency Fair.

Bank rates have generally been terrible for me and avoided it.

scrubbedexpat141 Oct 2nd 2019 7:13 am

Re: Sending money to the UK
 

Originally Posted by GolfGardener (Post 12739506)
HSBC rates are terrible. I understand they are also negotiable, especially for large sums, but it's probably better to go to somebody who offers you a sensible rate in the first place rather than going through that. i.e. the exchange houses in the malls or specialist currency exchange firms.

HSBC yesterday were 0.0102dhs difference to the spot rate.
The panic people have over transferring money cracks me up.

ariskar Oct 2nd 2019 8:18 am

Re: Sending money to the UK
 

Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 12743195)
HSBC yesterday were 0.0102dhs difference to the spot rate.
The panic people have over transferring money cracks me up.

Thanks for sharing, that's the kind of information I was looking for. This figure would represent a 0.22% margin which is excellent in forex terms. Was that through Global View / Global Transfers?

scrubbedexpat141 Oct 2nd 2019 9:41 am

Re: Sending money to the UK
 

Originally Posted by ariskar (Post 12743224)
Thanks for sharing, that's the kind of information I was looking for. This figure would represent a 0.22% margin which is excellent in forex terms. Was that through Global View / Global Transfers?

Yep.


ShirleyG102 Oct 2nd 2019 1:47 pm

Re: Sending money to the UK
 
UAE Exchange offer the best rates. If you transfer large amounts, you can also ask them to give you better rates.

Queef Latinah Oct 8th 2019 12:37 pm

Re: Sending money to the UK
 
I vote UAE exchange. I have used other services, hell I even tried Revolut and the rates are similar to UAE exchange (so much for their disruptive fintech malarkey?!)

MoneyCorp etc are all a waste of time. Get your cheque book out and get down to UAE exchange. Done.

Softbear Nov 1st 2019 10:00 am

Re: Sending money to the UK
 
May I clarify, if we remit our salaries back to the uk, we wont be taxed again in the uk correct? Thank you!!

Don63 Nov 1st 2019 12:31 pm

Re: Sending money to the UK
 
Always best to seek tax advice, but assuming you are treated as non-resident by HMRC and the country of your residence has a double taxation treaty with the UK, then in general you are subject to the tax laws of the country of residence. So, if in Saudi/Qatar etc it means NIL as that is their current tax law on residents. Your bank should provide you with a customer relationship officer who needs to give you a form to complete declaring you as a resident overseas and the country you reside in. You will also need to provide proof of the residence such as Employer letter, Utility Bills etc. This is safeguarding you and the bank. Quite easy really.

Softbear Nov 1st 2019 1:44 pm

Re: Sending money to the UK
 
thank you for the reply. I am non UK residence and lives in Singapore. I did check with a tax expert and he is clearly ducking the question which made me think there is more to it...hence decided to do the reading myself...



Originally Posted by Don63 (Post 12757615)
Always best to seek tax advice, but assuming you are treated as non-resident by HMRC and the country of your residence has a double taxation treaty with the UK, then in general you are subject to the tax laws of the country of residence. So, if in Saudi/Qatar etc it means NIL as that is their current tax law on residents. Your bank should provide you with a customer relationship officer who needs to give you a form to complete declaring you as a resident overseas and the country you reside in. You will also need to provide proof of the residence such as Employer letter, Utility Bills etc. This is safeguarding you and the bank. Quite easy really.


ariskar Nov 1st 2019 2:30 pm

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https://www.gov.uk/government/public...-test-srt-rdr3

Happy reading. You need to pass the SRT, mainly have3 some work or business abroad and not visit UK for more than 90 days a year. There are a myriad of complications possible beyond that, most explained in guidance notes.

You may consider filling this (non statutory required) form, which may help you tell HMRC in advance that you live abroad. A lengthy form with complex guidance, links below.

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...-tax-right-p85

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...g-in-this-form

And finally this:
https://www.gov.uk/hmrc-internal-man...asis/rdrm11100

All the best!


Originally Posted by Softbear (Post 12757657)
thank you for the reply. I am non UK residence and lives in Singapore. I did check with a tax expert and he is clearly ducking the question which made me think there is more to it...hence decided to do the reading myself...






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