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Old Oct 4th 2009, 11:48 am
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Hi All,

I'm no stranger to selling cars in the UK, but this is the first time I've had to do it over here, so anyone have any idea about selling a car that still has finance owing on it?

If the guy offers me cash, I can then take the cash to the bank and hand it over clearing the finance, however, do I need to get some sort of letter (probably called an NOC - every other letter of this type is) from the bank saying its free from finance etc, etc?

Also how do I transfer the ownership, is it a trip to the RTA with the new owner in tow?

Finally a bit of advice - if he's given me the cash to take to the bank, do I give him the keys and expect him to turn up later to meet at the RTA? Or do we both go to the RTA first and then exchange cash/keys?

I know I would never do this in the UK until the cash/cheque was in the bank, however is it any different here?

Just after a little sequence of events that I need to follow, rather than doing the usual 3 trips to get anything sorted!

Apologies if this has been covered lots but the search I did didn't turn up these answers.

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PS if anyones interested its a 2007 Prado VX Limited (ID4 model top of the range), silver, grey leather, 71000kms asking 99k OVNO on Dubizzle - http://tnydu.biz/CeF9z
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Hi All,

I'm no stranger to selling cars in the UK, but this is the first time I've had to do it over here, so anyone have any idea about selling a car that still has finance owing on it?

If the guy offers me cash, I can then take the cash to the bank and hand it over clearing the finance, however, do I need to get some sort of letter (probably called an NOC - every other letter of this type is) from the bank saying its free from finance etc, etc? Yes - you need a letter from the bank saying there is no outstanding finance on it. The buyer would be foolish to give you the money in advance though!

Also how do I transfer the ownership, is it a trip to the RTA with the new owner in tow? Yes - with the bank letter, buyer will need insurance in place and docs with him....both driver licences, probably both passports with residency?, you will need to pay any outstanding fines on it, the car will be inspected and you will need to pay for any work that needs doing to make it roadworthy if necessary (transfer of ownership can't take place until it passes the test).

Finally a bit of advice - if he's given me the cash to take to the bank, do I give him the keys and expect him to turn up later to meet at the RTA? Or do we both go to the RTA first and then exchange cash/keys? I am not sure how people handle this (I never buy anything on finance) but I wouldn't hand over cash to a stranger and take a spare key as collateral.

I know I would never do this in the UK until the cash/cheque was in the bank, however is it any different here?

Just after a little sequence of events that I need to follow, rather than doing the usual 3 trips to get anything sorted!

You get bank letter.
He gets insurance sorted (he will need usual car details)
Both go to Testing station....get car tested...go inside...you pay fines....he pays new rego......done deal.

It's probably the most straight forward bureaucratic process that exists in this country.

Apologies if this has been covered lots but the search I did didn't turn up these answers.

TIA
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PS if anyones interested its a 2007 Prado VX Limited (ID4 model top of the range), silver, grey leather, 71000kms asking 99k OVNO on Dubizzle - http://tnydu.biz/CeF9z
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Hi Jeeper,
Thanks for the quick reply.
The first point highlights my confusion a little though.

If anyone has a car on finance, its usually because they dont have all the cash up front to purchase the vehicle outright initially.

How then can anyone sell the car unless the finance is fully cleared (which it isn't in this case)?
Is it a case of me and the new owner going to my bank with his wad of cash, him giving me the cash in front of the cashier, me handing it to cashier, getting the letter, then immediately heading off to RTA together - do the banks (Emirates in this case) give you the letter that quickly?

I'm sure I'm not the first person to sell a car that has finance outstanding on it?

Just to note, I'm not in a hurry or in a "distressed" state, so time is not an issue, just want to get rid as its replacement has turned up.
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Hi Jeeper,
Thanks for the quick reply.
The first point highlights my confusion a little though.

If anyone has a car on finance, its usually because they dont have all the cash up front to purchase the vehicle outright initially.

How then can anyone sell the car unless the finance is fully cleared (which it isn't in this case)?
Is it a case of me and the new owner going to my bank with his wad of cash, him giving me the cash in front of the cashier, me handing it to cashier, getting the letter, then immediately heading off to RTA together - do the banks (Emirates in this case) give you the letter that quickly?

I'm sure I'm not the first person to sell a car that has finance outstanding on it?

Just to note, I'm not in a hurry or in a "distressed" state, so time is not an issue, just want to get rid as its replacement has turned up.

Yeah - it's a point of confusion for a lot of people. I'm sure people work around it with a bit of trust....either going there together or some form of colateral or whatever, maybe just blind faith in each other.

But you're right....it is a bit of a conundrum.

I think the letter can be generated pretty quickly....maybe call the bank first to let them know you're coming to settle the finance.

As I say, i've never done that part of the process...but someone will post who has.

Wait for BB2 to come online...she'll 'help' you.
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Originally Posted by Tarkers
If anyone has a car on finance, its usually because they dont have all the cash up front to purchase the vehicle outright initially.

How then can anyone sell the car unless the finance is fully cleared (which it isn't in this case)?
As jeeper says, you need blind trust, stupidity or something else to get this to actually work.

You and your buyer don't know me from Adam... I'm happy to be the Escrow you need...

...for a fee of course.
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As jeeper says, you need blind trust, stupidity or something else to get this to actually work.

You and your buyer don't know me from Adam... I'm happy to be the Escrow you need...

...for a fee of course.
we have done it, the buyer went to the bank with my husband, cleared the finance then they both went to the Car Registration place and did the transfer, what's the hassle?
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we have done it, the buyer went to the bank with my husband, cleared the finance then they both went to the Car Registration place and did the transfer, what's the hassle?
Hi Bluecat,
Just wondered if that was the usual way of doing things, no hassle.

Having lived here two years, the one lesson I have learnt is that nothing is ever as simple as it seems/could be/is at home!! I'm sure you understand.

Maybe I'm becoming Dubai-fied when I'm too cynical to believe a process is actually as simple as I think it should be!
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Hi Bluecat,
Just wondered if that was the usual way of doing things, no hassle.

Having lived here two years, the one lesson I have learnt is that nothing is ever as simple as it seems/could be/is at home!! I'm sure you understand.

Maybe I'm becoming Dubai-fied when I'm too cynical to believe a process is actually as simple as I think it should be!
it's pretty easy, the only thing you might come across is that they won't give you a letter straightaway to say that the finance has been cleared, if that is the case give the buyer the registration card for the car and arrange to meet him the next day once you have the letter, then go to the RTA and do the transfer.
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Yeah - it's a point of confusion for a lot of people. I'm sure people work around it with a bit of trust....either going there together or some form of colateral or whatever, maybe just blind faith in each other.

But you're right....it is a bit of a conundrum.

I think the letter can be generated pretty quickly....maybe call the bank first to let them know you're coming to settle the finance.

As I say, i've never done that part of the process...but someone will post who has.

Wait for BB2 to come online...she'll 'help' you.

just as bc says etc.... yes the letter from your bank to say loan is settled, sometimes it can take 3 days for them to do this letter, without this letter you cannot transfer over registration etc so if the buyer is paying cash thats not the prob the problem will be how long the bank takes to issue the letter.
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Thanks all!




.......No takers for the motor then....?
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.......No takers for the motor then....?
for 99k, people can pick and choose, without the hassle factor of dealing with someone that has to clear outstanding finance.

Now 60k would be a different story.
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for 99k, people can pick and choose, without the hassle factor of dealing with someone that has to clear outstanding finance.

Now 60k would be a different story.
Hahaha! Yes true!
Also true however is that 60k would be a Rav 4!
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for 99k, people can pick and choose, without the hassle factor of dealing with someone that has to clear outstanding finance.

Now 60k would be a different story.
I was going to say 60k and it's sold. I'd take it for 70 even (this is how good I am at negotiating!)
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just as bc says etc.... yes the letter from your bank to say loan is settled, sometimes it can take 3 days for them to do this letter, without this letter you cannot transfer over registration etc so if the buyer is paying cash thats not the prob the problem will be how long the bank takes to issue the letter.
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