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Old Oct 23rd 2018, 11:54 am
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Apparently the Turkish government are going to lay the smackdown today.
Must say Saudi picked a terrible country to do this. Turkey's been a loyal ally of Qatar over the embargo and wants to enhance its influence in the region. In the bad old days the Ottomans were the big power.

If I were MBS I'd have orchestrated a straightforward hit and run someplace else. A smart ruler could have done this discreetly and cleverly. But MBS is showy, isn't he? One could think that this was deliberate, banking on the tendency of furores to quickly die down and become forgotten after a week or two while at the same time still sending a very clear message to other dissenters. But I'm not sure if he's that smart. He's power hungry and not intelligent enough to know how to gain or use that power beyond thuggery.
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Must say Saudi picked a terrible country to do this. Turkey's been a loyal ally of Qatar over the embargo and wants to enhance its influence in the region. In the bad old days the Ottomans were the big power.

If I were MBS I'd have orchestrated a straightforward hit and run someplace else. A smart ruler could have done this discreetly and cleverly. But MBS is showy, isn't he? One could think that this was deliberate, banking on the tendency of furores to quickly die down and become forgotten after a week or two while at the same time still sending a very clear message to other dissenters. But I'm not sure if he's that smart. He's power hungry and not intelligent enough to know how to gain or use that power beyond thuggery.
The ferocity in which videos and storylines are being released agrees with your point that they picked a bad country.

Saw one today on BBC of a 'double' wearing his clothes out the building with a fake beard etc. They tracked him and another to a mosque where they changed and even know where they dumped the clothes. CCTV is a wonderful thing!
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Some body parts now found according to Sky News.
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Old Oct 24th 2018, 7:07 am
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Saw one today on BBC of a 'double' wearing his clothes out the building with a fake beard etc. They tracked him and another to a mosque where they changed and even know where they dumped the clothes. CCTV is a wonderful thing!
pretty poor imitation - look at the shoes and the hair colouring (!)

Really badly conducted excercise !
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pretty poor imitation - look at the shoes and the hair colouring (!)

Really badly conducted excercise !
Like a REALLY bad spy film from the 60's. The rest of the worlds security folk must be p1ssing themselves at the amateurishness of the whole debacle.
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pretty poor imitation - look at the shoes and the hair colouring (!)

Really badly conducted excercise !
Oh mate, it's atrocious. Embarrassing really.
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which is exactly why I think every bit of the story is absolutely true.
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Old Oct 28th 2018, 7:49 am
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It is strange that there has been so much indignation about the Khashoggi murder at a time when no one seems much concerned by the slaughter and famine in Yemen.
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being indignant about a war you're actually facilitating would be hypocrisy even the UK government would have a hard time achieving...
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Indeed, but I had thought that some of the "chattering classes" might have spared a tear or two for the huge numbers of dead and injured in that conflict.
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Indeed, but I had thought that some of the "chattering classes" might have spared a tear or two for the huge numbers of dead and injured in that conflict.
Whether it happens or not, you'd still judge.
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Because the Saudis did such an obvious and crap job at the assassination, I'm tending to think that MBS may have been set up by someone or some people from within the Royal family.

He's pissed off so many people over the past year that it wouldn't surprise me at all if this was some blowback.

Almost as if they wanted to get caught, and reflect badly on him.

still got more legs though. A show trial still to come.
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Old Nov 1st 2018, 7:59 pm
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Because the Saudis did such an obvious and crap job at the assassination, I'm tending to think that MBS may have been set up by someone or some people from within the Royal family.

He's pissed off so many people over the past year that it wouldn't surprise me at all if this was some blowback.

Almost as if they wanted to get caught, and reflect badly on him.

still got more legs though. A show trial still to come.
So one Saudi doing a better job than another Saudi? What are the chances
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Other royal families are much more adept at organising things like this.
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