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Work Widow Nov 4th 2019 12:59 am

Saudi Aramco IPO
 

scrubbedexpat141 Nov 4th 2019 3:51 am

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Sign me up.

nonthaburi Nov 4th 2019 5:41 am

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Was reading about it earlie . Foreign residents will be able to purchase shares so might be worth a punt.

Johnnyboy11 Nov 4th 2019 11:26 am

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Hmmm... Aramco or Damac Properties, decisions, decisions...?

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/30/majo...mid-slump.html

scrubbedexpat141 Nov 5th 2019 5:29 am

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Originally Posted by Johnnyboy11 (Post 12758711)
Hmmm... Aramco or Damac Properties, decisions, decisions...?

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/30/majo...mid-slump.html

Serves them right for plastering their horrid branding all over every building.

Johnnyboy11 Nov 5th 2019 7:47 pm

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Or there's Deutsche Bank, a sure fire winner...

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/de...teresting-turn

scrubbedexpat141 Nov 6th 2019 3:54 am

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Originally Posted by Johnnyboy11 (Post 12759413)
Or there's Deutsche Bank, a sure fire winner...

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/de...teresting-turn

Interesting website.

I like the main front page today has this for a headline:

11,000 Experts Propose Final Solution To Global Warming: Just Kill Billions Of People


Millhouse Nov 6th 2019 4:00 am

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Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 12759572)
Interesting website.

I like the main front page today has this for a headline:

11,000 Experts Propose Final Solution To Global Warming: Just Kill Billions Of People


People after my own heart.

Millhouse Nov 6th 2019 5:05 am

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Originally Posted by nonthaburi (Post 12758632)
Was reading about it earlier. Foreign residents will be able to purchase shares so might be worth a punt.

It's always easier to be cynical about these things, but on this occasion, I struggle to see the upside. The dividend yield is poor (3.5% vs 6% for shell/BP), they have zero investor transparency, the chances of them diversifying to renewables or other downstream activities is low, and the opportunity for them to expand across regions is nil.
These factors mean that you are stuck with a super minority investment (1%) in a country that is high on the political risk spectrum, offers limited diversification or growth and rewards you with a low dividend. At best, it is an oil price play at a time when the world (including KSA) is doing all it can to reduce dependency on oil. At worst, you will just get screwed over as no-one will care about the 1% held by retail and you'll get eaten by poor, politically driven management. The IPO investors in SABIC did well, the long-term prospects for Aramco are just not the same.

Liquidity for the stock will, no doubt, be terrible.

UKCityGent Nov 6th 2019 5:32 am

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Originally Posted by Millhouse (Post 12759591)
It's always easier to be cynical about these things, but on this occasion, I struggle to see the upside. The dividend yield is poor (3.5% vs 6% for shell/BP), they have zero investor transparency, the chances of them diversifying to renewables or other downstream activities is low, and the opportunity for them to expand across regions is nil.
These factors mean that you are stuck with a super minority investment (1%) in a country that is high on the political risk spectrum, offers limited diversification or growth and rewards you with a low dividend. At best, it is an oil price play at a time when the world (including KSA) is doing all it can to reduce dependency on oil. At worst, you will just get screwed over as no-one will care about the 1% held by retail and you'll get eaten by poor, politically driven management. The IPO investors in SABIC did well, the long-term prospects for Aramco are just not the same.

Liquidity for the stock will, no doubt, be terrible.

Finally some common sense, even with the cowboys i work with are not taking a punt (in fact reducing and possibly eliminating the whole GCC portfolio)

Johnnyboy11 Nov 6th 2019 5:50 pm

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Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 12759572)
Interesting website.

I like the main front page today has this for a headline:

11,000 Experts Propose Final Solution To Global Warming: Just Kill Billions Of People


That's the thing about Zerohedge, you never know what to expect, like this NHS article and embedded video...
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...ts-and-sexists

scrubbedexpat141 Nov 7th 2019 5:14 am

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Originally Posted by Johnnyboy11 (Post 12759903)
That's the thing about Zerohedge, you never know what to expect, like this NHS article and embedded video...
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...ts-and-sexists

Megalols.


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