salary bracket for client engagement architect. Negotiation stage
Feb 15th 2012, 10:07 am
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Re: salary bracket for client engagement architect. Negotiation stage
An overall package value of 50,000 AED a month inclusive of housing and school fees is a perfectly good package. Not brilliant, but less than 50,000 you may struggle (albeit slightly) and more than 50,000 kudos to you. Don't accept anything less than 35-40,000 if you have a family of four.
But it's all relative. You know how much you're worth in the UK. Take your full UK salary + housing and school fees and then it's worth the move.
But it's all relative. You know how much you're worth in the UK. Take your full UK salary + housing and school fees and then it's worth the move.
Finally thanks for all the help from everyone all be it a litte canny
I hope i can take this interview stage to the next round and do some serious negotiations. Will keep in touch.
Feb 16th 2012, 7:18 pm
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Re: salary bracket for client engagement architect. Negotiation stage
AED 40k basic p.m. + 160000 housing p.a. + A.E.D 10,500 p.a. school fee (per child, usually up to 2 children only) + 2000 p.m. car allowance+ 85% family medical cover+ annual tickets (including dependents, spouse and up to 2 children) +30 days holiday + $3000 relocation (one off)+ discretionary bonus + an American Lebanese boss – that’s what you can expect if you are working for a “Big 4” within SAP domain as an experienced/exceptional SAP TA, albeit the colour of your skin and origin essentially decide your actual package. Also, generally, you can make around 20-30% more in the industry particularly in the Financial and Energy & Resources sectors.
Another option is to work as an independent consultant in the UAE/Gulf; you can easily make around $1200 per day + 15% expenses, plenty of work for SAP TA’s particularly in Qatar, Saudi and Kuwait.
Another option is to work as an independent consultant in the UAE/Gulf; you can easily make around $1200 per day + 15% expenses, plenty of work for SAP TA’s particularly in Qatar, Saudi and Kuwait.
Feb 16th 2012, 7:23 pm
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Re: salary bracket for client engagement architect. Negotiation stage
AED 40k basic p.m. + 160000 housing p.a. + A.E.D 10,500 p.a. school fee (per child, usually up to 2 children only) + 2000 p.m. car allowance+ 85% family medical cover+ annual tickets (including dependents, spouse and up to 2 children) +30 days holiday + $3000 relocation (one off)+ discretionary bonus + an American Lebanese boss – that’s what you can expect if you are working for a “Big 4” within SAP domain as an experienced/exceptional SAP TA, albeit the colour of your skin and origin essentially decide your actual package. Also, generally, you can make around 20-30% more in the industry particularly in the Financial and Energy & Resources sectors.
Another option is to work as an independent consultant in the UAE/Gulf; you can easily make around $1200 per day + 15% expenses, plenty of work for SAP TA’s particularly in Qatar, Saudi and Kuwait.
Another option is to work as an independent consultant in the UAE/Gulf; you can easily make around $1200 per day + 15% expenses, plenty of work for SAP TA’s particularly in Qatar, Saudi and Kuwait.
Feb 16th 2012, 7:49 pm
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Re: salary bracket for client engagement architect. Negotiation stage
The Mafia! – Astounding numbers are working for the “Big 4” particularly in ME and NA. To share my “anguish”, I said to one of the Partners last week (he is an American Lebanese), it seems that Lebanese are either management consultants or Hezbollah elite! He wasn’t too amused tbh.
Feb 16th 2012, 8:04 pm
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Re: salary bracket for client engagement architect. Negotiation stage
The Mafia! – Astounding numbers are working for the “Big 4” particularly in ME and NA. To share my “anguish”, I said to one of the Partners last week (he is an American Lebanese), it seems that Lebanese are either management consultants or Hezbollah elite! He wasn’t too amused tbh.
Feb 17th 2012, 11:20 am
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Re: salary bracket for client engagement architect. Negotiation stage
Feb 17th 2012, 2:10 pm
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Re: salary bracket for client engagement architect. Negotiation stage
don't worry buddy. the average person on this forum may not have the foggiest about IT and what we actually do. i still get told at work that i should list IT-ish as a different language i speak fluently on my linkedin profile...
Feb 17th 2012, 2:55 pm
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Re: salary bracket for client engagement architect. Negotiation stage
excellent post Norsk.
To be honest not many people know what IT really means. Including my family and friends! They all seem to think i can fix any computer in the world and that IT just been tapping away at a keyboard! Suits me fine and i have actually stopped explaining what i actually do now.
However, on a brighter note do you or anyone out there know of any good SAP TA roles up for grabs in the UAE?
To be honest not many people know what IT really means. Including my family and friends! They all seem to think i can fix any computer in the world and that IT just been tapping away at a keyboard! Suits me fine and i have actually stopped explaining what i actually do now.
However, on a brighter note do you or anyone out there know of any good SAP TA roles up for grabs in the UAE?
Feb 17th 2012, 3:29 pm
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Re: salary bracket for client engagement architect. Negotiation stage
excellent post Norsk.
To be honest not many people know what IT really means. Including my family and friends! They all seem to think i can fix any computer in the world and that IT just been tapping away at a keyboard! Suits me fine and i have actually stopped explaining what i actually do now.
However, on a brighter note do you or anyone out there know of any good SAP TA roles up for grabs in the UAE?
To be honest not many people know what IT really means. Including my family and friends! They all seem to think i can fix any computer in the world and that IT just been tapping away at a keyboard! Suits me fine and i have actually stopped explaining what i actually do now.
However, on a brighter note do you or anyone out there know of any good SAP TA roles up for grabs in the UAE?
I don't know of any roles and to be honest I don't really know of any major SAP implementations here either. I'm sure there are some implementations, but not sure how many. It seems to be all about Oracle in the ME for some reason..
Feb 19th 2012, 7:18 am
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Re: salary bracket for client engagement architect. Negotiation stage
Sat next to three such female characters at Mug&Bean on Saturday while trying to evict a hangover with a full English (sort of). Desperately wanted some peace n quiet, but with 3 motor-mouths going non-stop didn't get any. Why so loud? Why so "me"? Why no pleases and thank-yous? ("Excuse me. Get me some milk": poor Asian waitress took it in her stride, but it was so tempting to ask why, if they were intent on screeching awful bloody transatlantic Arabic English for all to hear, couldn't they at least throw in some pleasantries.)
