swiftman

Hi all,

Hoping to land a new role for myself in Dubai as a client engagement architect within a SAP domain. I currently work in the UK as a SAP TA and considering this role. However, i have no idea of the sort of money these types of roles pay out in Dubai. What sort of money is reasonable to ask for without taking the mick?

I have two children both who will require schools. So need to take that into account too i guess plus all the added stuff like medical, transport, housing etc. I am hoping that most of the perks would be in the package although i doubt that housing and schooling will make it in there. Can always try i guess. That's why its called negotiation:-)

Just wanted to get a feel for a figure before putting my own rates forward. Needless to say i have still got a long long way to go before acceptance into the role.

Any advice welcome. Would love to communicate with any SAP technical architects out there to see what the opportunities for scope is out in Middle East.

Thanks in advance.

Oyibopeppeh

Start at your current UK gross salary + 50% plus all the other stuff including accommodation and schooling.

If you start high, you can negotiate lower, rather than the other way.

Millhouse

"client engagement architect within a SAP domain"

Is there an English translation for this job title?

OleJanx

Yes, but it is not very polite or flattering...

swiftman

Agree title is not everything and the post is not at all flattering. I describe it more as a dart board for all clients. SAP domain as this would be customers' implementing or utilising SAP.

The suggestion around the gross salary plus 50% sounds like a plan and in fact i was thinking around those lines but wanted to check if there were any SAP TA's on this board whom could provide a more accurate figure.

Thanks thus far.

Jackwow

I've still no idea what a SAP Architect is?!

csdf

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=SAP+architect&l=1

Ethos83

Ah, a computer geek. Not an actual RIBA chartered architect.


To OP: most IT related work in Dubai are done by South Asians making 1/4 the salaries of western expats. But you may land a senior management role in a company somewhere. Who knows.

Meow

So nothing to do with being an architect then? Does this mean I could call myself a financial architect?

weasel decentral

Software architect is a fairly well know term I would have thought??

SAP should be a well known company to anyone who has ever had to interact with any sort of company management software.

To the OP I would imagine your skills are at at premium here, most of the IT guys here (while being poorly paid Asians) are not in any way knowledgeable with SAP. They are just systems, and network administrators.

swiftman

Thanks for all the responses thus far. Yes i think you will find that a SAP role anywhere in the world is quite a niche role but that's only because SAP markets it that way and make it expensive and hard to reach for most aspiring IT professionals.

As for the term SAP Architect - it basically means someone who can articulate a design based on business of functional matrix/input and map that to a technical IT layer and come up with a full design and outlay. Now if you can do that in the financial world then by all means call yourself a financial architect.
Don't worry i too wasn't aware of IT architects until around 10 years ago. And i was is IT well before then so don't expect everyone to know the terminology.

I am still stuggling to get a handle on salary for Dubai however, looked at the wiki links and did the searches and all in all they say the same old thing. Ask for more considering schools, medical, transport, bills etc. No one actually provides a figure with a decent breakdown?

mentalist

Wrong forum, surely?

swiftman

Really? what is the correct forum then? I thought there was just one forum for all birtishexpats split by region ?Am i missing something?

Ethos83

An overall package value of 50,000 AED a month inclusive of housing and school fees is a perfectly good package. Not brilliant, but less than 50,000 you may struggle (albeit slightly) and more than 50,000 kudos to you. Don't accept anything less than 35-40,000 if you have a family of four.

But it's all relative. You know how much you're worth in the UK. Take your full UK salary + housing and school fees and then it's worth the move.

lehoff

How about Numerical Artist!?