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Old Jan 31st 2008, 5:04 pm
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Originally Posted by FAX
Madam Medusa, unfortunately I have felt it a couple of times in Dubai. I find it hard to describe but it's usually before I begin speaking or show my passport and they realise I'm a Brit.
It's horses for courses FAX, but personally I would put it beneath me to prove myself in terms of nationality. I would feel it akin to suggesting that I am somewhat 'better' on the basis that my parents happened to move to the UK and be welcomed as equivalents than someone whose parents moved, say, to the UAE where he would have lived most or all of his life and still never have any feeling of belonging.

Again i'm sure it's more subtle than a simple darkness scale anyway. I can't imagine John Abraham or even a 'darkie' like Rajnikant getting hassled at the Lodge or wherever - to give the bouncers credit I think they can see beyond colour (a little) and determine who are the big shots and who are small fry who don't count. And that element is worldwide, certainly true in Asia and even in 'advanced' societies.
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Originally Posted by angelynv
nope
sorry - her dad is of Leb descent.
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Originally Posted by angelynv
hmmm not all Mexican women look like Salma Hayek or Penelope (shes European btw) I wish I looked like Salma!! Indians and Mexicans do look similar though in terms of features..

i may well refrain from sending pics though - you might be disappointed and i quite like spreading this rumour to people who havent met me that i look like Salma Hayek!! I dont want the dream to be shattered so lets not meet either!

no men do NOT greet me with "woohoo!!!" i was referring to Spring Break! Full of students from North America getting wrecked and screaming "woohoo!!" not at me though you understsand..

i get your confusion - my post was totally random and i forgot the point i was making - damn i must be more bored at work today than normal..
You're at work?? At this late hour?? Blimey - The Dubai Disease.........

I get confused with Salma's and Penelope's nationalities - it's that 'Bandidas' film or whatever it was called.

Anyway, PC has shagged Tom Thumb so that's her off my list...........
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Originally Posted by jvr20
true - though I'd suggest that it's actually more subtle than a simple north/south thing.
well the words "southern darkies" were used in a derogatory manner on at least one .
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Default Re: Racism in Dubai nightspots!

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You're at work?? At this late hour?? Blimey - The Dubai Disease.........

I get confused with Salma's and Penelope's nationalities - it's that 'Bandidas' film or whatever it was called.

Anyway, PC has shagged Tom Thumb so that's her off my list...........
i live in the UK, moving to Dubs in April
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Originally Posted by Inselaffen
well the words "southern darkies" were used in a derogatory manner on at least one .
$hit - well OK nothing subtle about that then!
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It's horses for courses FAX, but personally I would put it beneath me to prove myself in terms of nationality.
No I wouldn't do it either. But I'm often asked for a photocopy of my passport in Dubai (and they love to ask you for passport sized photographs everywhere you go too, I normally keep 8-10 in my wallet at all times )

Showing the passport normally brings about a change of attitude. Possibly the gold Royal Insignia against the burgundy background inspires a feeling of loyalty towards their old colonial masters

I remember seeing Jack Dee do a routine where he started shouting he wanted the old style passport back, and revert back to the days when you didn't show your passport at border controls, you simply used it to slap old colonial subjects out of the way while you marched through

Thankfully we've moved past that era but I must admit the more I travel, the more I become aware of Britain's influence over the last millennium's history some positive some negative but on the whole I'm incredibly proud and privileged to call myself a British citizen
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Default Re: Racism in Dubai nightspots!

Originally Posted by FAX
No I wouldn't do it either. But I'm often asked for a photocopy of my passport in Dubai (and they love to ask you for passport sized photographs everywhere you go too, I normally keep 8-10 in my wallet at all times )

Showing the passport normally brings about a change of attitude. Possibly the gold Royal Insignia against the burgundy background inspires a feeling of loyalty towards their old colonial masters

I remember seeing Jack Dee do a routine where he started shouting he wanted the old style passport back, and revert back to the days when you didn't show your passport at border controls, you simply used it to slap old colonial subjects out of the way while you marched through

Thankfully we've moved past that era but I must admit the more I travel, the more I become aware of Britain's influence over the last millennium's history some positive some negative but on the whole I'm incredibly proud and privileged to call myself a British citizen
If I don't have a business card,I hand out a passport photo...
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Originally Posted by Inselaffen
Its clear there is racism in Dubai.

Actually some of the worst I have seen has been from Indians from Mumbai/Dehli towards southern Indians.
And have seen it happen vice-versa too. Think it is more clannish behaviour - everyone thinks they are the superior lot.

I have a fantastic melting pot of cultures in my family - North Indians (am married to one), Goan (my sis is married to one), South Indians (2 first cousins from dad's side, in fact several cousins have partners from S.I), Brits (grand-uncle, mom in-law's brother, my brother in law), Chinese (grand-uncle to a Singaporean), Greek (hubby's first cousin is married to one), American, Pakistani (my first cousin from my mom's side) Sri Lankan (husband's first cousin recently married one) ....... :-)
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Hey,

I am an Indian living who has been living in Toronto,Canada for the last 8 years. I have never faced any in-the-face racism ever in these years. Thats unless of course I go to certain places which are strictly blonde white classy. Let me tell you guys about an incident which happened when I visited this particular "high profile" nightclub in downtown Toronto. I dont remember the name of this place, but I remember the guests were mostly white and mostly blonde with an occasional black guy or an asian getting in, as long as they were accompanied by a caucasian.I went there purely by invite. A friend of mine who is an Indian had invited to join them for the evening. I was late so by the time I got there, a huge lineup had built up. Anyway, since I knew that my friends were already in, I went directly to the bouncer explaining to him that a few friends were already in and expecting me. He asked me to wait in the lineup, citing that many others had prior reservations which seemed valid at that moment. This wait continued until I called up a really "white" skinned friend of mine from inside to ask them to let me in. She came out and requested the bouncer to let me in ,but he didnt oblige. He said I had to wait. At that time I didnt realize this was racism. I kept seeing the white folk walking in. I waited for an hour almost, along the way making a couple of italian friends from south italy, they even mentioning that I look an italian because of very obvious sharp features. We chatted and continued to see white blondes people walking in while we were forced to wait. I am sure the bouncer thought those poor italians were either Asian or Arab. To cut a long story short, I eventually called my friend and told her that I am heading back home since there are no signs of me joining them for the night.

I am usually a very easy going no-trouble sort of a guy when I go to these social spots.

Moral of the story? Racism exists world wide, however well behaved and well dressed a non-white is. It doesnt matter if you look like a super model as long as the color of your skin is non-white. Sad.
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Originally Posted by The Dean
You're at work?? At this late hour?? Blimey - The Dubai Disease.........

I get confused with Salma's and Penelope's nationalities - it's that 'Bandidas' film or whatever it was called.

Anyway, PC has shagged Tom Thumb so that's her off my list...........
proper soft porn that film.

Loved it
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Default Re: Racism in Dubai nightspots!

Originally Posted by TorontoDesi
Hey,

I am an Indian living who has been living in Toronto,Canada for the last 8 years. I have never faced any in-the-face racism ever in these years. Thats unless of course I go to certain places which are strictly blonde white classy. Let me tell you guys about an incident which happened when I visited this particular "high profile" nightclub in downtown Toronto. I dont remember the name of this place, but I remember the guests were mostly white and mostly blonde with an occasional black guy or an asian getting in, as long as they were accompanied by a caucasian.I went there purely by invite. A friend of mine who is an Indian had invited to join them for the evening. I was late so by the time I got there, a huge lineup had built up. Anyway, since I knew that my friends were already in, I went directly to the bouncer explaining to him that a few friends were already in and expecting me. He asked me to wait in the lineup, citing that many others had prior reservations which seemed valid at that moment. This wait continued until I called up a really "white" skinned friend of mine from inside to ask them to let me in. She came out and requested the bouncer to let me in ,but he didnt oblige. He said I had to wait. At that time I didnt realize this was racism. I kept seeing the white folk walking in. I waited for an hour almost, along the way making a couple of italian friends from south italy, they even mentioning that I look an italian because of very obvious sharp features. We chatted and continued to see white blondes people walking in while we were forced to wait. I am sure the bouncer thought those poor italians were either Asian or Arab. To cut a long story short, I eventually called my friend and told her that I am heading back home since there are no signs of me joining them for the night.

I am usually a very easy going no-trouble sort of a guy when I go to these social spots.

Moral of the story? Racism exists world wide, however well behaved and well dressed a non-white is. It doesnt matter if you look like a super model as long as the color of your skin is non-white. Sad.
Serves you right for being late in the first place!
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Originally Posted by jvr20
i thought Salma was from the ME!
I think her dad is a Lebbo...

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Originally Posted by angelynv
i live in the UK, moving to Dubs in April
Still thinking of moving out even after Dubai was placed high on the possible terror attack list?

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I think the message here is clear.
If you don't like nightclub descrimination here, either...
(a) Vote with your feet - dont go
(b) Buy a nightclub and become part of the problem
(c) Accept it as part of living in Dubai, just like all the other problems of living here that you can't do anything about..
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