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shiva Nov 20th 2007 4:52 pm

The Palms doomed....or not maybe
 
Richard Branson on Sunday
"Dubai will be underwater in 50 years"
http://www.arabianbusiness.com/50429...-branson?ln=en
ok hes got the numbers wrong in all probability but i was wondering when the "Dubai machine" would respond

Today from Nakheel
"Palm flood - 'Branson wrong'"
http://www.arabianbusiness.com/index...wrong&Itemid=1

Eeyore Nov 20th 2007 8:35 pm

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Good old Nakheel :) Their science, at least as presented in that report, is seriously flawed, but never mind.

When the Wikipedia entry for the Palm Jumeirah was modified to include the fact that the housing density on the island was greatly increased after the original round of sales (which was absolutely true) and that they'd had stagnation problems with the water before they added the breaks in the crescent (again true), someone was quick to edit the page to remove that stuff. A quick glance at the edit history revealed that the IP address for the person doing the censoring was... the Palm Jumeirah Sales Office :D

There's a wider problem here though, of the fact that the pollution and greenhouse gases created by the UAE are out of all proportion to the population size; in fact, I think I'm right in saying that the UAE is one of the most polluting nations in the world in that respect. And as well as our enthusiastic contribution to global warming, imagine all the crap that's coating our lungs when we breathe the air here. Lovely :(

shakh your bootie Nov 20th 2007 8:44 pm

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Originally Posted by GarethR (Post 5582184)
Good old Nakheel :)

When the Wikipedia entry for the Palm Jumeirah was modified to include the fact that the housing density on the island was greatly increased after the original round of sales (which was absolutely true) and that they'd had stagnation problems with the water before they added the breaks in the crescent (again true), someone was quick to edit the page to remove that stuff. A quick glance at the edit history revealed that the IP address for the person doing the censoring was... the Palm Jumeirah Sales Office :D

There's a wider problem here though, of the fact that the pollution and greenhouse gases created by the UAE are out of all proportion to the population size; in fact, I think I'm right in saying that the UAE is one of the most polluting nations in the world in that respect. And as well as our enthusiastic contribution to global warming, imagine all the crap that's coating our lungs when we breathe the air here. Lovely :(

Bang on re UAE's per capita carbon footprint. (http://www.ameinfo.com/53883.html, for example).

Judging by this board's preference to mull over the property apocalypse rather than the scorched earth apocalypse, I am probably wasting my breath here but...
http://www.eeg-uae.org/billion-tree-campaign.htm

Plant a tree. Go on...

Paidtoplease Nov 20th 2007 8:55 pm

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Originally Posted by shakh your bootie (Post 5582206)
Bang on re UAE's per capita carbon footprint. (http://www.ameinfo.com/53883.html, for example).

Judging by this board's preference to mull over the property apocalypse rather than the scorched earth apocalypse, I am probably wasting my breath here but...
http://www.eeg-uae.org/billion-tree-campaign.htm

Plant a tree. Go on...

I planted one last week :thumbsup:

shakh your bootie Nov 20th 2007 9:07 pm

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Originally Posted by Paidtoplease (Post 5582236)
I planted one last week :thumbsup:

Excellent. They have pledged to plant 1,000,000 trees in the UAE.... Sounds great, but how will they water them????

jvr20 Nov 20th 2007 9:15 pm

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Originally Posted by shakh your bootie (Post 5582277)
Excellent. They have pledged to plant 1,000,000 trees in the UAE.... Sounds great, but how will they water them????

divert the supply from Sonapur...

Paidtoplease Nov 20th 2007 9:19 pm

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Originally Posted by shakh your bootie (Post 5582277)
Excellent. They have pledged to plant 1,000,000 trees in the UAE.... Sounds great, but how will they water them????

Okay only 999,999 to go .....

Inselaffen Nov 20th 2007 9:20 pm

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Originally Posted by shakh your bootie (Post 5582277)
Excellent. They have pledged to plant 1,000,000 trees in the UAE.... Sounds great, but how will they water them????

by building some nice new power hungry desalination plants :)

shakh your bootie Nov 20th 2007 9:30 pm

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Originally Posted by Inselaffen (Post 5582319)
by building some nice new power hungry desalination plants :)


They planted 50 in Sweihan last week....

http://www.savetheghaftree.org/

Paidtoplease Nov 20th 2007 9:33 pm

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Originally Posted by shakh your bootie (Post 5582342)
They planted 50 in Sweihan last week....

http://www.savetheghaftree.org/

Now we're rolling...999949 to go....

shakh your bootie Nov 20th 2007 9:34 pm

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Originally Posted by Paidtoplease (Post 5582346)
Now we're rolling...999949 to go....

Cool. So where did you plant your tree?

Paidtoplease Nov 20th 2007 9:37 pm

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Originally Posted by shakh your bootie (Post 5582351)
Cool. So where did you plant your tree?


Back yard... and doing well

Cham128 Nov 20th 2007 10:52 pm

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Originally Posted by Inselaffen (Post 5582319)
by building some nice new power hungry desalination plants :)

why have they never thought that solar power was a good idea out there?

Paidtoplease Nov 20th 2007 10:56 pm

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Originally Posted by Cham128 (Post 5582528)
why have they never thought that solar power was a good idea out there?

Not that bright !!!

shakh your bootie Nov 20th 2007 10:58 pm

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Originally Posted by Cham128 (Post 5582528)
why have they never thought that solar power was a good idea out there?

The Italians built a solar desal plant in AD a few years ago but ran into commissioning problems... I think it put them off using solar for anything other than small scale stuff (lighting of buoys, parking meters etc).

There are plans for local area cooling when the dolphin LPG line is installed, which will save a lot of energy...

My boys have built prototype solar power & wind power systems, and there is some interest in adopting this technology on rural farms.


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