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Old May 15th 2024, 8:47 pm
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Originally Posted by Ashiq9786
No they did not asked me for psychometric assessment, rather it was 2 rounds of interview with a gap of 1 week, both were of 30 mins. First one was general and second one was more technical and specific to the role. after that i didnt hear any thing its been 10 days. I think not for all positions they do psych assessments
Hi Ashiq9786,
thank you for the prompt response. I think you are right about the fact that not everyone (depending upon the position they are applying for) is asked to do the test. In that case, I assume your expertise are more on the technical (engineering) side. I wish you all the best for your hiring.
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Old May 15th 2024, 8:55 pm
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Originally Posted by Dannja016
I sat mine just over 2 weeks ago and nothing so far. Good to know someone else is in similar boat. Best of luck.
By the way, how would you rate your 'assessment' (I became skeptical about further processes despite knowing I didn't do 'that' bad in the exercise) score.
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Old May 16th 2024, 2:45 am
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Just for clarity, please can you let me know what you are all deeming as a ‘verbal offer’. Is it as simple as ‘when can you start’ or ‘we wish to offer you a position subject to screening’ or something else?
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Originally Posted by kaygee78
Hi Ashiq9786,
thank you for the prompt response. I think you are right about the fact that not everyone (depending upon the position they are applying for) is asked to do the test. In that case, I assume your expertise are more on the technical (engineering) side. I wish you all the best for your hiring.
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Thank you so much. I am in the field of educational quality management system but i guess where role has managing/dealing with people, they ask for psych assessments
BTW i called the recruitment guy with whom i was in contact during interviews, he said he will let me know about my status next week by discussing with his line manager
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Looks like I've found the place to not feel that I am the only one in limbo!

I'm new to the group and was headhunted earlier in the year for a specialist position at Neom. I had 2 interviews and I felt both went well and I thought I had been offered the role. 4 months later and although a few emails have been passed back and forth between managers and HR dates have slipped once again and whilst it may be the way for Neom, it isn't a great introduction to the company?

Did anyone hear anything in the last few weeks that had been promised an offer in that time scale? Last contact was 3 weeks ago for me and I'm not sure if I want to contact them again especially as they came to me in the first place.

If you have made it to Neom, are you enjoying life (ie it takes away from the long recruitment process and makes it worth while)

Very torn as project wise it would be a dream but this introduction isn't inspiring me to leap . In context I've lived in the Middle East and Asia so well aware of how things move differently but this seems very different?


Originally Posted by Ashiq9786
I had two round of interviews, they went really well but i didn't hear anything from them after that its been 10 days now. How long did it take in your case to get any response of selection after interviews?
I have been waiting since January but not sure if that is fully indicative.

New jobs are still being posted so I'd like to think that recruitment processes are still taking place and it is very recent that you were interviewed?

Originally Posted by nen9889
Just for clarity, please can you let me know what you are all deeming as a ‘verbal offer’. Is it as simple as ‘when can you start’ or ‘we wish to offer you a position subject to screening’ or something else?
In the interview with the manager he said that I would be offered the position (January 2024). I took that as a job offer but have not received anything formal since that from Neom so I am beginning to wonder.

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Old May 16th 2024, 8:22 pm
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I'd like to raise the question of the those dire glassdoor reviews. They are quite dire I think there are a few that are positive, but a lot even the recent ones eg less that 12 month are usually 'if you are up for the money go for it, if you are interested in long term career and mental health avoid. A few have mentioned safety (from a facilities mgr) and air pollution. I read an academic paper about issues at neom on air pollution. I'm divided, I've done some bat shit crazy jobs before (inc in the ME), but I'd like to know the crazies before I agree to them. I've had some movement on the potential (still to materialise contract) eg its really coming, yes it is very soon, so I'm going to make up my mind.
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I'd like to raise the question of the those dire glassdoor reviews. They are quite dire I think there are a few that are positive, but a lot even the recent ones eg less that 12 month are usually 'if you are up for the money go for it, if you are interested in long term career and mental health avoid. A few have mentioned safety (from a facilities mgr.) and air pollution. I read an academic paper about issues at neom on air pollution. I'm divided, I've done some bat shit crazy jobs before (inc in the ME), but I'd like to know the crazies before I agree to them. I've had some movement on the potential (still to materialize contract) eg its really coming, yes it is very soon, so I'm going to make up my mind.
I think you have to read between the lines with the Glassdoor reviews as with anything. A lot of the negative reviews are those that didn't secure positions or were fed up of waiting and lack of communication but I'm not there so cannot comment on work life. I do think it's a tough gig a) as it's remote working and many really haven't thought that through fully and what it really means b) many are there for the financials. Rightly or wrongly again this is all personal and maybe dependent on age, experience etc so again hard to compare and you'll get out of it what you put in. I truly believe if you take the leap of faith (in any country), the first twelve months in a new country are always a transition. You will crave what you cannot have or what isn't readily available but if you can navigate those feelings and work is good then you can make anything work. This is remote working and it will always have challenges.

Air pollution, are those reports readily available I would love to read them. I have been watching a lot of videos on TikTok and Instagram for pages that are very searchable on camp life and Neom life and certainly don't see air pollution in anything that I have seen . Obviously this pollution isn't always visible but having lived in some horrendously polluted cities this doesn't seem even remotely comparable but again I'm not there. I had hoped with the remoteness, being close to coasts and mountains would provide fresher air?
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Originally Posted by NomadBrit
In the interview with the manager he said that I would be offered the position (January 2024). I took that as a job offer but have not received anything formal since that from Neom so I am beginning to wonder.
A verbal communication / confirmation is a kind of go to proceed with a formal offer, but unless you dont receive an offer letter (which is a formal offer) , nothing is certain - a lot of us are waiting for that written offer, which is in reality the trigger point for your hiring process to proceed into a formal job.
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Originally Posted by zj215
I'd like to raise the question of the those dire glassdoor reviews. They are quite dire I think there are a few that are positive, but a lot even the recent ones eg less that 12 month are usually 'if you are up for the money go for it, if you are interested in long term career and mental health avoid. A few have mentioned safety (from a facilities mgr) and air pollution. I read an academic paper about issues at neom on air pollution. I'm divided, I've done some bat shit crazy jobs before (inc in the ME), but I'd like to know the crazies before I agree to them. I've had some movement on the potential (still to materialise contract) eg its really coming, yes it is very soon, so I'm going to make up my mind.
This is a very relative question and it will vary from person to person and their individual circumstances, at the end of the day your decision will your own and will be based on your preferences and your circumstances. Compared to a metropolitan city with a population of a few million with hundreds and thousands of cars and flights taking off every 2-3 minutes, the train system, metro system, heaters and ACs, etc etc. the pollution level in NEOM should be significantly less as the current population is well under 100K (thats my amateur view as i am no meteorologist).
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Originally Posted by fs05
A verbal communication / confirmation is a kind of go to proceed with a formal offer, but unless you dont receive an offer letter (which is a formal offer) , nothing is certain - a lot of us are waiting for that written offer, which is in reality the trigger point for your hiring process to proceed into a formal job.
I guess I have joined the 'waiting game' to see if anything materialises. At this stage although something has been mentioned verbally it doesn't really mean anything without that bit of paper. I guess it might be time to follow up again!
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I always take the approach with online reviews that if you are having a positive experience, you just keep having the positivve experience. But if you are having a negative experience, you want revenge and need to feel listened to so you jump online and vent your feelings hoping to find people to share you pain with.
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thanks for the responses, firstly I've just read two papers which say the quality is well below the national standard mark eg well within boundaries, so I think I must have picked up some erroneous report.
I totally get what is being said above with regards to either people not being prepared and naïve in terms of the move they are to make, naïve in terms of working in the ME as well I should add.
But I'd like to ask those that have kindly contributed to the answers above are you actually on site, if anyone is actually there reading this I'd be interested to understand the experience especially from those who have worked in a multi cultural environment in the ME before.
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Originally Posted by zj215
I'd like to raise the question of the those dire glassdoor reviews. They are quite dire I think there are a few that are positive, but a lot even the recent ones eg less that 12 month are usually 'if you are up for the money go for it, if you are interested in long term career and mental health avoid. A few have mentioned safety (from a facilities mgr) and air pollution. I read an academic paper about issues at neom on air pollution. I'm divided, I've done some bat shit crazy jobs before (inc in the ME), but I'd like to know the crazies before I agree to them. I've had some movement on the potential (still to materialise contract) eg its really coming, yes it is very soon, so I'm going to make up my mind.
Hi Z,
Reasonable questions.
I've worked for Neom directly for over a year and will share some thoughts. Take them for what they are: the impressions and opinions of one person who likes it here enough to be considering their second 3-year contract. I can't tell you how this relates to working for a contractor.

- Long Term Career -- The impression that this isn't the place to come for a long term career probably isn't too far off. This is a construction project and still in many ways, a start up. The people the company needs now are not the people it will need in a few years. Most people come on a 3 year contract and may or may not get or accept another. That doesn't mean it can't help your career, it just means this may not be the place to come and settle for a 20 year career and retirement.

- Safety -- I think this depends on where you are. This is one of the largest construction projects in the world. It can be a pretty hazardous place. Speaking only for my business unit, there are tight controls in place and they are checked regularly and enforced completely. I know more than one person who has had their Neom experience cut short for trying to cut corners with safety. Each BU manages it differently, but everything I've seen shows a genuine commitment to safety. If you are working onsite a lot, you probably have a sense of the questions to ask your hiring manager to get a feel for the commitment in your BU. If you're uncertain, ask to talk to a few potential colleagues. You should be able to get the measure of the environment quickly. If they don't let you talk to anyone, especially about safety, run.

- Pollution -- I don't know too much about the science of our air quality right now, but I do know there there is a new effort kicking off to monitor and report air quality issues. Not sure how that is going.

-Mental Health -- This is a tough one. Put plainly, this place isn't for everyone.
It is very remote. It is an hour to the closest town and 2.5 hours to the closest city. More flights are being added into and out of Neom Bay, but you can usually count on a few long connections to get wherever you want to go from here.
You also live with the people you work with, so there is a strong likelihood of finishing your workday and then going to dinner and ending up (whether you mean to or not) talking shop with your colleagues. Even worse, it can sometime be hard to just get away from the person who annoyed you in a meeting, or who works in a different department and seems like they are holding up what you have to do. It can get to be a lot to deal with. All of that is on top of the fact that many of us are away from our families
This environment can be quite challenging and it can be easy to minimize that when you get your job offer. I hope potential new hires read this and have an honest conversation with themselves.

Bullying -- I've heard of some instances that turned out come from a difference in cultures (over 100+ countries represented and counting). These led to the teams working through how best to communicate. I've heard of some that were out and out bullying. Most of that was addressed by management. I don't feel like there is any type of institutional acceptance of bullying. More of a situation where you have 1000s of employees and sometimes there is a bad apple that needs to be removed from the bunch.

Bat-shit craziness -- We are building a massive city in the middle of nowhere as a cornerstone for generational change for a kingdom. That is a BIG swing and may even be BSC; but it is fun. For the right people, it is quite exciting. I have never regretted deciding to move here (I had never lived in, or for that matter visited the ME before moving for the job). There have been days I've left the office seething about one thing or another, but there hasn't yet been a morning that followed when I didn't wake up excited to get back to the office and try again.
This place is full of people who decided to move to the middle of nowhere to build something that hasn't been done, so you get the unique type of person who jumps at that challenge.

Keep in mind that glassdoor isn't scientific and that no workplace is perfect. You can only figure out if this might be right for you. I hope I helped a little with that.

Good luck!

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Thank you BMH77 that sounds very reasonable and I think balanced. I'm up for the challenge.
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I'm three months in, but I got reason to hope things are changing from recent comms from neom. I think its like a watched kettle feels ages when you are going through the process. To make you feel better I have a friend who got a job with the UN, apparently that paperwork took six months. And you'd think....
I think neom is clearing out a few issues and I think things will move. I'm no expert, and just a thought from recent conversations.
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