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Old Sep 27th 2007, 12:21 pm
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Hello all,

I might be going the *wrong* way here as all of you in this forum are moving to the ME.

I've been reading this forum for a while now. Not british to start with. I'm from Jordan.

I've been working in Riyadh for 3 years now, living a decent life, driving a really nice car, have many friends.. So don't have any reason to leave. As a single guy, sometimes it can be a bit tough living here, there are many places that are just for the so-called 'families', like not entering the malls in weekends, etc.

I work in IT/Telco industry and love my job, couldn't be any better.

Recently, I'm thinking of moving to London. Why? No idea, really. I just wanna give London a go and live there for a while, so I'm looking for some advice from you guys. I might be in the wrong forum and probably the wrong website, since all of you are moving out of the UK.

What about a £60K salary (well, got this figure from some jobs ads websites)in London? The take-home amount would be like £40K. Would that be enough for a decent life over there? Bear in mind that I've never been to the UK before, do have some friends there though. I know it is very expensive and the cost of living is sky high.

Will that be a wrong decision? I'm afraid I'd regret leaving my job, and the country. Frankly, I started to change my mind after reading some threads here on "Why leaving the UK" stuff.

Sorry for the long post. Appreciate your time reading it.
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Old Sep 27th 2007, 12:28 pm
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£40k isn't loads in london...transport and renit is very expensive, but there are still some areas where you can get reasonable rents...

Dunno what you're looking for, london has everything there is on offer, and i loved living there...would imagine that after living in riyadh, it would be a complete culture shock!!!

I know some people move to london and are really lonely because it is quite difficult to meet people unless you meet them through work...that said, it sounds like you already have friends there so this shouldn't be a problem...

As long as the salary is right, i'd say give it a go. If you've got any more specific questions let us know...

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Have you visited London? It is an expensive city, but you'd manage fine on £60k a year. For a single person, there are so many things to do & see, & you'd also have easy trips to other parts of Europe.

I would suggest that you go & stay with your firends for a wek or so, & then see if you like it. The weather is frequently dreadful, so I hope you like the cold, the grey & rain!

I return to London every 6-8 weeks for business, so my knowledge is pretty up to date if there is anything you want to ask.
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Why not try Dubai as it's definitely singles friendly?
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Old Sep 29th 2007, 10:12 am
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£60K is roughly *double* the average salary for London workers, so you'll do absolutely fine there. Sure, if you want a flashy riverside apartment in the centre of town you won't be left with as much disposable income as you would if you chose to live in the suburbs and commute in, but that's entirely your call.

If you've spent your life working in the Middle East, I would definitely choose London over Dubai any day. London is a real city with real history and real soul, it's not mostly fake like Dubai. Yes, London is an expensive place to live, but you do actually get a lot back - a superb public transport system, world-class culture, arts, entertainment and restaurants, etc.

The weather issue is exaggerated; a bit of rain now and again isn't the worst thing in the world, and it's what allows for so much natural greenery.
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too right, Gareth!

Bimmer I say go for it!
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Thanks to everyone for the replies, love the community here!

As for the weather, I guess any part of the world isn't much worse than that here in Riyadh. Sometimes it does reach 60 degrees out there!

I've been to some European countries, and usually go to the states twice a year. Must visit London some time soon.

I go to Bahrain/Dubai every other weekend. As GarethR said, everything in Dubai is fake. Bahrain is a very nice place, but it is getting more and more expensive everyday.

My main concern about London is the trasnportation,especially if I had to live the suburbs. Fuel is £0.98 a litre, insurance costs loads, and some other hidden costs like paying £8 or so for entering the city. Guess I'd be better of with the public transportation.

I've been looking around for some flats. A *nice* one would cost around £400 a week. That's £20K year!

Well, I still have time to think about it. Until the end of the year, that is.

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P.S. If anybody has any question/needs anything here in Riyadh I'd be more than happy to help out.
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if you're single then flat sharing would be a better option - lower rent plus immediate friends (assuming the other occupants do become friends!)

check out www.gumtree.com
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What areas are you looking in for flats? You can get places much cheaper than that by moving out a few miles. Just make sure you are within walking distance of an underground or mainline station. I know of people who are paying around £800 pm for a flat.

If you move out to Zone four, rents are cheaper & a combined train/underground/bus pass is around £130 per month. I can only quote you the zone 4 transport figures as I lived there.

If you are going to be fairly central, don't bother with getting a car. It is far too expensive for most people unless you really need it. The transport system isn't ideal and is frequently overcrowded, but will take you anywhere you want to go in & around London. If you want to travel around the country for a week or so (which you should do whilst you are in the UK) it will work out cheaper to hire a car.
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My main concern about London is the trasnportation,especially if I had to live the suburbs...Guess I'd be better of with the public transportation
Yes, that's what most commuters use. The only people who drive into London every day are typically those whose companies are paying for their car, petrol, parking and congestion charge.

I've been looking around for some flats. A *nice* one would cost around £400 a week. That's £20K year!
Depending on what you mean by "nice", you'll pay that in Dubai, easily. And of course, in Dubai you have to come up with that £20K in a lump sum, whereas in the UK you pay rent month-by-month (like everywhere else in the developed world).
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Yes, that's what most commuters use. The only people who drive into London every day are typically those whose companies are paying for their car, petrol, parking and congestion charge.
Absolutely! I lived in London most of my life and will move back one day. No way would I even consider getting a car again - completely pointless as public transport has improved tremendously since Ken became mayor. Yes, it gets overcrowded during the rush-hour, but it still gets you from A to B, and some people I know manage to avoid the worst by going in early or late, i.e. avoiding the usual 9 to 5.

There's not just the underground to consider though - there are all the mainline commuter trains as well. For instance, if you live in Putney, you can be in Waterloo in 15 minutes.

A decent flat in a nice part of town shouldn't cost 400 a week. And I would agree that a flatshare would be the way to go for a single guy who is new to London.

There is just so much to do in London, and so much is free or reasonably priced. So a Starbucks might set you back 2 quid, but you can get a Travelex ticket to the National Theatre or a standing ticket at the Royal Opera for 10....... and all the public museums and art galleries are FREE!!
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....... and all the public museums and art galleries are FREE!!
Yep, and then you move away and regret how little you utilized them. esp in a cultural gwondaland like dubai....
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For instance, if you live in Putney, you can be in Waterloo in 15 minutes.
well...that's the theory, lol...

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Many of the best times of my life have been with little money but ...

60k in London for a single fella is more than enough, good lord whole families (although not lavishly) have prefectly decent standards of life on less than that. Particularly if you are not trying to buy property. Remember there's a lot of London in a very small area though, accommodation may not be the size you are used to. What's around you more than makes up for that though.

You can chose to share centrally or move out to zones 4 or 5 on your own easily for 800 pcm. I have friends that share a large 4 bed victorian terrace down by docklands and they all pay 375 pcm. None of them earn even half 60K. It depends what kind of lifestyle you want, whether you want privacy and where your job is located.

Transport For London website (TFL) has all the train maps. If you cross reference them with google maps satelite and street versions thinking about London in zones can make it much easier for people new to the city.

I truely do not believe the cost of Living in London is more than Dubai or Doha, unless you're going to be eating in the ridiculous restuarants, frequenting posh strip clubs and casinos and going home in black cabs every night. BK, McDs and Pizza Hut are all cheaper in the ME though .....

You're young and single, if you get the opportunity I would go as far to say as it would be foolish not to try it!
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