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Old May 11th 2020, 6:48 am
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ICUs are now full, apparently. And they're flying in extra staff from India, which is never a good sign.
I've heard the same. The extra nurses is very public information and not a good sign! I've got to go to the hospital this week for something - will be asking lots of questions to valet drivers, cleaners and receptionists... they never lie.

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So what did you learn?
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So what did you learn?
I learnt that my wife was capable of going alone and I stayed at home 😁

She said it was like a ghost town and the doctor was very depressed. She ended up going to a specialise clinic and not a hospital though.
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Ironically, I've heard that lots of doctors are worried about being laid off, which sounds insane to me. OK, so they might be a podiatric surgeon or whatever, but surely there's some way they can be useful in these times.
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Ironically, I've heard that lots of doctors are worried about being laid off, which sounds insane to me. OK, so they might be a podiatric surgeon or whatever, but surely there's some way they can be useful in these times.
Most health professionals including doctors aren't trained for the emergency care required for COVID-19. Most have specific training for their specialty. Even GPs require additional training to be able to work with COVID-19. In the US most hospitals have laid off staff because all elective treatment were cancelled starting in March and most American hospitals are now underwhelmed because the surge never materialized. I read recently that the typical US hospital has been operating at 20% capacity since March. Same in UK.
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Ironically, I've heard that lots of doctors are worried about being laid off, which sounds insane to me. OK, so they might be a podiatric surgeon or whatever, but surely there's some way they can be useful in these times.
The Cubans are just as good and cheaper.
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Most health professionals including doctors aren't trained for the emergency care required for COVID-19. Most have specific training for their specialty. Even GPs require additional training to be able to work with COVID-19. In the US most hospitals have laid off staff because all elective treatment were cancelled starting in March and most American hospitals are now underwhelmed because the surge never materialized. I read recently that the typical US hospital has been operating at 20% capacity since March. Same in UK.
Same is true here. Hospitals are really suffering from a total collapse in demand for elective surgery. There is no money to be made in covid treatment really. Hospitals also have to run at reduced levels due to social distancing.

The real economic pain though won’t be seen until 30 June. Almost all corporate debt is payable on 3 or 6 months which means pretty much everyone pays in June. The banks don’t know what is coming down the pipe but are certainly shitting themselves. I know we are.
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I’m sure that the antics of Finablr and NMC health haven’t helped with the general feeling of wellbeing in certain places.
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It's not lost or missing on me. I get it.

Total annual car crash deaths : 14m
Total annual flu deaths : around 400k
Total annual malaria deaths: around 400k - mostly kids
Total Syrian war dead: around 500k - with many more driven into poverty, displacement, and unreported indirect death
Total void deaths to cause total economic (social and political just not seen yet) armageddon: 70k

Yes, covid will probably hit a million dead. This is 8% of the car crashes, and around the same as the flu and malaria combined. We don't stop the economy due to cars, flu or malaria.
UK COVID deaths - 34,000
UK COVID deaths under the age of 65 - 350
UK annual deaths by drowning - 400

50% of deaths are in care homes
25% of deaths in hospitals are people with diabetes
90% of deaths over the age of 65

My position on this economic insanity hasn't changed. The good news is that the general public and politicians are starting to see it.

We need a new news item and them we can move on. I still think it'll be the US elections in September.





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UK COVID deaths - 34,000
UK COVID deaths under the age of 65 - 350
UK annual deaths by drowning - 400

50% of deaths are in care homes
25% of deaths in hospitals are people with diabetes
90% of deaths over the age of 65

My position on this economic insanity hasn't changed. The good news is that the general public and politicians are starting to see it.

We need a new news item and them we can move on. I still think it'll be the US elections in September.
I just think it's a time thing. As you suggest, the general public are starting to see or believe or share what you suggest.
They'll grow tired of a second lockdown idea and tired of staying in level 3 or higher when the R doesn't get below 1 much.
But, whilst they're getting furloughed and paid to do **** all, I'd be happily locked down and protecting the NHS in that sort of Churchillian battle mentality BoJo is exuding.
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I just think it's a time thing. As you suggest, the general public are starting to see or believe or share what you suggest.
They'll grow tired of a second lockdown idea and tired of staying in level 3 or higher when the R doesn't get below 1 much.
But, whilst they're getting furloughed and paid to do **** all, I'd be happily locked down and protecting the NHS in that sort of Churchillian battle mentality BoJo is exuding.
I'm not sure the NHS needs protecting. It performed just fine. We didn't even use the field hospitals.
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I'm not sure the NHS needs protecting. It performed just fine. We didn't even use the field hospitals.
That should have been in some sort of 'mark' to show it wasn't my words or thoughts really.

But you're right. None of them have been needed, but I understand why they are/were there though. Flattening the curve etc.
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UK COVID deaths - 34,000
UK COVID deaths under the age of 65 - 350
UK annual deaths by drowning - 400

50% of deaths are in care homes
25% of deaths in hospitals are people with diabetes
90% of deaths over the age of 65

My position on this economic insanity hasn't changed. The good news is that the general public and politicians are starting to see it.

We need a new news item and them we can move on. I still think it'll be the US elections in September.
34,000 deaths
350 deaths under 65

yet 90% of deaths are over 65.

Surely that would mean 3,400 deaths under 65, not 350?
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34,000 deaths
350 deaths under 65

yet 90% of deaths are over 65.

Surely that would mean 3,400 deaths under 65, not 350?
mafymatics isn't my strong point
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