Lockdown
#211
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Re: Lockdown
What do people know about or think about the Corona Apps that are being released or already live in places?
Do they track you and your movement so if you get infected they can see who (by way of app) you were near in the last 14 days and alert them?
Or are they more manual?
Do they track you and your movement so if you get infected they can see who (by way of app) you were near in the last 14 days and alert them?
Or are they more manual?
#212
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Re: Lockdown
What do people know about or think about the Corona Apps that are being released or already live in places?
Do they track you and your movement so if you get infected they can see who (by way of app) you were near in the last 14 days and alert them?
Or are they more manual?
Do they track you and your movement so if you get infected they can see who (by way of app) you were near in the last 14 days and alert them?
Or are they more manual?
#214
Re: Lockdown
Lots of suggestions that most are pretty crap with all sorts of bugs and issues. Some only work if the phone is active, others apparently suck the battery like sixpenny tart on a two shilling bonus. Others are flaky and just read all your contacts anyway. The whole data sharing platform is wide open on these things for the most part I think.
#215
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Re: Lockdown
Cool.
Dunno, guess they don't get tracked. Most people seem to though and I think a lot of labourers (let's focus on them) are camp based so I'd hope there are initiatives ongoing to test, isolate and help them as groups?
The ones in China seem pretty impressive from the brief bits I've read. I wonder if you could enforce a download? I mean, I know it's possible because Apple forced me to have some TERRIBLE album from that band fronted by Bono a few years ago...so you can make people have stuff on their phone.
Lots of suggestions that most are pretty crap with all sorts of bugs and issues. Some only work if the phone is active, others apparently suck the battery like sixpenny tart on a two shilling bonus. Others are flaky and just read all your contacts anyway. The whole data sharing platform is wide open on these things for the most part I think.
#216
Re: Lockdown
What do people know about or think about the Corona Apps that are being released or already live in places?
Do they track you and your movement so if you get infected they can see who (by way of app) you were near in the last 14 days and alert them?
Or are they more manual?
Do they track you and your movement so if you get infected they can see who (by way of app) you were near in the last 14 days and alert them?
Or are they more manual?
#217
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Re: Lockdown
I installed TraceCovid, but it absolutely murdered battery life so I disabled it. The developers appear to be first language English speakers, for whatever that's worth in terms of quality of construction. I haven't bothered with the AlHosn app because I've no idea how it's any different to that TraceCovid one and in any case, it's likely also to destroy battery life. BTW, in the Android ecosystem you can check what permissions every app has, and apps have to explicitly ask for permission to do anything (i.e. they don't install with all the permissions pre-granted). You can also disable any permissions later on if you want.
Hmm. I suppose in theory most people aren't making many trips so sort of doesn't matter but remembering to activate / deactivate and app is a faff.
#218
Re: Lockdown
The Police in the UK would have a field day with that, Did anybody else notice the number of arrests after they were allowed to install that "electronic monitoring" at airports. Ill bet the police cant wait for the airport to reopen. Thanks to corona there is lots of prison space at last.
#219
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Re: Lockdown
https://apnews.com/229e5110ac04fef82734cc125eb5ca39
Whats the opinion on these "sanitization gates"?
Mostly placebo? All they seem to do is disinfect clothes...
Got to love the owner's typical Levatine style exaggeration “If we consider two people, one has a knife and one has coronavirus, the second one is a hundred times dangerous than the first one,” he said.
Whats the opinion on these "sanitization gates"?
Mostly placebo? All they seem to do is disinfect clothes...
Got to love the owner's typical Levatine style exaggeration “If we consider two people, one has a knife and one has coronavirus, the second one is a hundred times dangerous than the first one,” he said.
#220
Re: Lockdown
So is the local policy now de facto herd immunity? Back of the envelope, assuming 70% infection before herd kicks in, that's about 6 million infections. At a 1% death rate (we're hovering around 0.9% currently, having risen from about 0.6%), 60,000 souls depart this earth. The normal death rate is about 1.5-1.7 per thousand per year, or 14,000/year. So 4x the normal number of deaths.
#221
Re: Lockdown
So is the local policy now de facto herd immunity? Back of the envelope, assuming 70% infection before herd kicks in, that's about 6 million infections. At a 1% death rate (we're hovering around 0.9% currently, having risen from about 0.6%), 60,000 souls depart this earth. The normal death rate is about 1.5-1.7 per thousand per year, or 14,000/year. So 4x the normal number of deaths.
The strategy for the young has to got to be: get it, survive it, move on. Only one of those parts is tricky to execute.
#222
Re: Lockdown
Sure, I think it will be the policy everywhere. Edit: quick back-of-the-envelope maths
- Assume about 1000 ICU beds in the country (about 10 per 100,000, because although population is young, it's diabetic).
- ICU rate for people aged 20-44 is about 2% (https://www.statista.com/chart/21173...navirus-cases/)
- That allows a maximum of about 50,000 active cases in the country. We're currently at 10,000. Perhaps this is the calculation.
Last edited by csdf; May 3rd 2020 at 8:29 am.
#223
Re: Lockdown
Sure, I think it will be the policy everywhere. Edit: quick back-of-the-envelope maths
- Assume about 1000 ICU beds in the country (about 10 per 100,000, because although population is young, it's diabetic).
- ICU rate for people aged 20-44 is about 2% (https://www.statista.com/chart/21173...navirus-cases/)
- That allows a maximum of about 50,000 active cases in the country. We're currently at 10,000. Perhaps this is the calculation.
#225
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Re: Lockdown
Morons, in abundance. Turned up because restaurants were allowed to open, ended up queuing quite close together, people inside without masks just getting tanked up. The rest of us just stayed home.
A few other places opened up immediately and were the same.
Some others didn't open immediately to plan a bit better and never got the chance to open. All booze sales were shut down (although Co Durham Boy may know a few watering holes that survived).
A few other places opened up immediately and were the same.
Some others didn't open immediately to plan a bit better and never got the chance to open. All booze sales were shut down (although Co Durham Boy may know a few watering holes that survived).