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May 23rd 2010, 2:42 pm

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Re: Lean Six Sigma in Middle East

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Like many bits of "management speak" it's actually extremely effective when done properly but regrettably often done badly which tarnishes the reputation.

However, IMHO, lean six sigma requires a level of actually giving a sh*t about what you're doing that the general Middle East workforce does not yet have, so it's doomed to failure here.

Agreed.

Same with QA (of which Six Sigma appears to be a variant) - Great if done properly; not so good when the paperchase has no bearing on the reality of the situation.

May 24th 2010, 12:22 pm

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it's a load of nonsense.

That was not the question. The question was whether it is popular or not? As a black belt here in Europe you can demand whatever you want. I hope something similar will also happen over there!

May 24th 2010, 12:56 pm

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That was not the question. The question was whether it is popular or not? As a black belt here in Europe you can demand whatever you want. I hope something similar will also happen over there!

As a leather belt in Dubai, I can also demand what ever I want.

I don't always get it but I can demand.

May 24th 2010, 1:10 pm

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As a leather belt in Dubai, I can also demand what ever I want.

I don't always get it but I can demand.

Whahaha you're funny! The difference with us is that we demand it and we get it. By the way I still haven't choosen this path yet, but I'am only wondering.

May 24th 2010, 1:52 pm

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Whahaha you're funny! The difference with us is that we demand it and we get it. By the way I still haven't choosen this path yet, but I'am only wondering.

Good to see you don't take a six sigma approach to your spelling.

May 24th 2010, 2:40 pm

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Whahaha you're funny! The difference with us is that we demand it and we get it. By the way I still haven't choosen this path yet, but I'am only wondering.

So, you are saying, that as a six sigma black belt, you can demand and get whatever you want in Europe.

You don't apply six sigma to the truth either do you?

May 24th 2010, 2:54 pm

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That was not the question. The question was whether it is popular or not? As a black belt here in Europe you can demand whatever you want. I hope something similar will also happen over there!

So it seems the real purpose of 6 Sigma is to enable its proponents to demand and get 'whatever they want', rather than say ensuring that the required quality of a product or service is achieved.

May 24th 2010, 6:34 pm

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Good to see you don't take a six sigma approach to your spelling.

I'am Dutch.. I'am wondering whether your Dutch/Arabic is as good as my English

May 25th 2010, 9:56 am

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So it seems the real purpose of 6 Sigma is to enable its proponents to demand and get 'whatever they want', rather than say ensuring that the required quality of a product or service is achieved.

Probably did SAP before going to 6 Sigma!!!!!!

May 25th 2010, 11:35 am

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Re: Lean Six Sigma in Middle East

is six sigma the same as 36variance?

May 25th 2010, 11:36 am

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Re: Lean Six Sigma in Middle East

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That was not the question. The question was whether it is popular or not? As a black belt here in Europe you can demand whatever you want. I hope something similar will also happen over there!

Ok, let me put it another way... it won't help you here.

I really wouldn't structure your early career on a move to the ME. Get experienced at what you are good at, then see if you can bring it here.

May 25th 2010, 11:57 am

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Probably did SAP before going to 6 Sigma!!!!!!

The thought had crossed my mind.

Sell it cheap, maintain it expensive.

May 25th 2010, 2:44 pm

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Then tell me; what is popular over there? Because either way, I will eventually go to the ME! The advantage that I now have is that I can specialise in what ever I want.

So advice and tips are welcome!