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TacMo Dec 13th 2015 7:22 pm

Re: How safe is to work in Iraq, Basra?
 

Originally Posted by Asho7225 (Post 11813503)
Threat level for US workers is the same as for any Westerner out here.It will obviously depend on what company you work for and the type of security they have.
If you work for Exxon for example, you will be transported from the airport and driven in an armoured vehicle to a camp that is secured by a security company, that will employ locals. The locals are generally supervised by Expats (generally ex military guys).
There is no threat currently of rocket attacks or major IEDs targeting security companies or the IOCs, however the threat in Basra comes from the locals, be it militia groups (currently they don't like Turkish citizens) also from the tribes, who feel the IOCs are not sharing the wealth or giving the locals enough jobs. There remains a threat of kidnapping in any of these types of countries but this threat is mitigated by the employment of armed security companies.
I have personally worked in Iraq since 2010. I know people who have been here since 2003. There is always a threat in these types of places but depending on your job, you wont be put in any real harms way.
I would need further info or where/who you are looking at working with and can give you a better idea of the situation. But generally I would say its fine, and the money will be a deciding factor for you. Work is tough to come by at present and if you can get it I would say go for it. Basra isn't as bad as the rest of the country, just political, tribal and criminal activity are the main areas of concern. Plus remembering to be culturally sensitive at all times.



Thank you very much. It will actually be working for security company. I appreciate your reply and have quite a few questions. This will be my first time to iraq. Are you there currently? How are Americans generally welcomed there? I'm sure the cultural differences are significant and would like to get "up to speed" on how to arrive and function with a minimal footprint. The last thing I want to do is get jammed up over a culture thing I wasn't aware of. How are tattoos received? Are they an issue? I have a Hebrew tattoo and I'm curious if it will get me detained or jammed up. Beyond that I'm assuming just being respectful is the best option? It's their country. Thanks again.

~TM

Asho7225 Dec 14th 2015 12:25 pm

Re: How safe is to work in Iraq, Basra?
 

Originally Posted by TacMo (Post 11813555)
Thank you very much. It will actually be working for security company. I appreciate your reply and have quite a few questions. This will be my first time to iraq. Are you there currently? How are Americans generally welcomed there? I'm sure the cultural differences are significant and would like to get "up to speed" on how to arrive and function with a minimal footprint. The last thing I want to do is get jammed up over a culture thing I wasn't aware of. How are tattoos received? Are they an issue? I have a Hebrew tattoo and I'm curious if it will get me detained or jammed up. Beyond that I'm assuming just being respectful is the best option? It's their country. Thanks again. ~TM

Im currently in country.No dramas on Americans in Iraq that we have noticed. Obviously some people aren't fans of the Americans due to the Iraq war but then again the Iraqis are fond of any westerners as they are "stealing their jobs". However we have Brits and Yanks working out here and there are lots of them in country.Cultural issues - the most recent large incident involved a security company back in 2013 when a Team leader was accused of cutting a religious flag off of a vehicle. He was physically assaulted. General rule of thumb is do not talk to the locals about politics or religion. Just play the game during their holy days, ie don't do things that may cause offence, like drinking and eating when they are fasting.
No problem on tattoos. Many operators out here sport numerous tattoos. The Hebrew tattoo I would make sure I have it covered, by wearing long sleeve shirts and also do not show it to the locals as they may accuse you of being a Jew (which is the same as accusing you of being a spy... mental I know).
But yeah you've hit the nail on the head, be respectful. Its their country, don't bad mouth them, their beliefs, culture or their religion. Easy enough.
When are you out in country and who are you with? you can PM me if you want

Asho7225 Dec 15th 2015 4:08 am

Re: How safe is to work in Iraq, Basra?
 

Originally Posted by TacMo (Post 11814017)
PM sent. Thanks

not received

mission Dec 15th 2015 2:03 pm

Re: How safe is to work in Iraq, Basra?
 
i feel a bromance coming along :)

TacMo Dec 15th 2015 3:04 pm

Re: How safe is to work in Iraq, Basra?
 

Originally Posted by mission (Post 11814629)
i feel a bromance coming along :)

Mission, That made my day! I haven't heard "bromance" in a while. Good to see humor is in abundance here. Kudos.

TM

mission Dec 15th 2015 3:32 pm

Re: How safe is to work in Iraq, Basra?
 

Originally Posted by TacMo (Post 11814666)
Mission, That made my day! I haven't heard "bromance" in a while. Good to see humor is in abundance here. Kudos.

TM

TAC always good to hear i bring a little sunshine :p

calfbrit Apr 24th 2016 11:31 pm

Re: How safe is to work in Iraq, Basra?
 
i wanna know about the guarding system in rumaila field ..
can someone help me up with it?
i just wanna know if there any air craft system working there or not?

ARGAR Jul 18th 2016 5:37 am

Re: How safe is to work in Iraq, Basra?
 
Don't touch any flags put up by the locals.
They have religious significance, and are sacred to the shia Iraqis.

Regards

ARGAR

ARGAR Jul 20th 2016 6:18 am

Re: How safe is to work in Iraq, Basra?
 

Originally Posted by calfbrit (Post 11931202)
i wanna know about the guarding system in rumaila field ..
can someone help me up with it?
i just wanna know if there any air craft system working there or not?

You wouldn't be working in Rumaila field without security teams escorting you everywhere.
When staying for an extended period of time, you will be staying in a secure camp with 24hr armed security and 12ft high security "T-wall"

This is all for precautions, i have been in the Basra area for over 2 years now and nothing ever happens.
You get the occasional protest near Majnoon, but Rumaila is pretty safe.

Most PSD companies have good relations with the local police and the public in general as they provide jobs for the local population.
If in the rare case of any trouble coming your way, they your security would whisk you away well before any danger got close.

I'm not sure what you mean by Aircraft system?
If you mean for security, then no everything is B6 armoured land vehicle based.
If you meant for civilian transport? then yes, Basra has a fully functioning international airport.


I hope this info helps.

ARGAR

bizkitgto Feb 9th 2017 4:16 am

Re: How safe is to work in Iraq, Basra?
 

Originally Posted by ARGAR (Post 12007031)
You wouldn't be working in Rumaila field without security teams escorting you everywhere.
When staying for an extended period of time, you will be staying in a secure camp with 24hr armed security and 12ft high security "T-wall"

This is all for precautions, i have been in the Basra area for over 2 years now and nothing ever happens.
You get the occasional protest near Majnoon, but Rumaila is pretty safe.

Hey there - from what I gather on these forums the safety situation seems okay these days. I was wondering if you could comment on some more details on the compounds themselves - do they have decent living quarters, gym, food, camp life etc? I may be heading to Majnoon. Any info would be much appreciated.

Cheers!

AdamLM Feb 16th 2017 9:23 am

Re: How safe is to work in Iraq, Basra?
 

Originally Posted by bizkitgto (Post 12175052)
Hey there - from what I gather on these forums the safety situation seems okay these days. I was wondering if you could comment on some more details on the compounds themselves - do they have decent living quarters, gym, food, camp life etc? I may be heading to Majnoon. Any info would be much appreciated.

Cheers!

The site facilities in Iraq are very dependent on who will be providing them. If you are staying on the Shell camp then the facilities and security are absolutely fine but if you will sub contract to an EPC contractor then there are varying qualities.

I have visited a few of the camps in Iraq and most of the time there isn't really anything to complain about (other than daily fire alarms from people showering with their bathroom door open). Having said that, I definitely wouldn't want to stay on a Chinese camp ever again :ohmy:

nidald May 30th 2017 12:08 pm

Re: How safe is to work in Iraq, Basra?
 
Hello,

Is it safe to make a business trip for few days to Basra? and where do you advise to stay?

AdamLM May 31st 2017 7:15 am

Re: How safe is to work in Iraq, Basra?
 

Originally Posted by nidald (Post 12262743)
Hello,

Is it safe to make a business trip for few days to Basra? and where do you advise to stay?

Yes it is safe but I would advise liaising with your client regarding your stay and travel. It's normal practice for the use of PSD to keep you safe and in most cases the client will provide this service for you.

Trav14 Jun 8th 2017 8:44 pm

Re: How safe is to work in Iraq, Basra?
 
Travelling to Rumaila Oil Field for work, one or two weeks max.Main concern travel from airport to the main ROO compound. How safe is the area?

psychopomp1 Jun 11th 2017 1:31 pm

Re: How safe is to work in Iraq, Basra?
 

Originally Posted by Trav14 (Post 12269054)
Travelling to Rumaila Oil Field for work, one or two weeks max.Main concern travel from airport to the main ROO compound. How safe is the area?

If your land travel is all in PSDs, which consist of a convey of armoured vehicles then you'll be fine. Actually when i was there from 2013-2015, I felt safer in travelling in a PSD in Southern Iraq than i did in parts of UK!!:rofl::rofl:


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